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[Pharo-project] release a new 1.1 core - 11196 on gforge
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Feb. 9, 2010

Feb. 9, 2010

Hi I released a new 1.1 core - 11196 on gforge. I will try to get some time to integrate some issues. later in the evening. Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: mouse right button
by Lukas Renggli Feb. 9, 2010

Feb. 9, 2010

I've also update the Linux and Mac VM to the latest version in the one-click distribution of 3.0. If there are no complains, we can use that container for Seaside 2.8.x too :-) Lukas On 9 February 2010 00:07, John McKeon <p3anoman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Fixed > Seaside 3.0a5 > Pharo1.0rc1 update 10505 > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for all the help, I've uploaded a new version of the Seaside >> One-Click distribution with the adapted ini file. I guess this should >> finally work. Now we need some people to test it with an actual >> windows machine. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 8 February 2010 23:28, Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> > Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >> >> >> So that means if I take a recent Pharo-Core 1.0 and if I do not touch >> >> #swapMouseButtons then it should work with 3ButtonMouse=1 on Windoze >> >> too? >> > >> > The preferences need to agree. Here's a test you can use to ensure >> > consistency: >> > >> > testWinVM3ButtonMousePreference >> > Â Â Â Â "Ensure that swapMouseButtons agrees with 3ButtonMouse >> > preference" >> > Â Â Â Â | iniData iniPref exePath | >> > Â Â Â Â SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Win32' ifFalse:[^self]. >> > Â Â Â Â exePath := SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 0. >> > Â Â Â Â iniData := [ >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: (exePath copyUpToLast: >> > $.), >> > '.ini') >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â contentsOfEntireFile >> > Â Â Â Â ] on: Error do:[:ex| ex return: '']. >> > Â Â Â Â iniPref := false. "default is OFF" >> > Â Â Â Â iniData linesDo:[:line| >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (line beginsWith: '3ButtonMouse') ifTrue:[ >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iniPref := (line copyAfter: $=) withBlanksTrimmed >> > ~= >> > '0'. >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ]. >> > Â Â Â Â ]. >> > Â Â Â Â self assert: iniPref = Preferences swapMouseButtons. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Â - Andreas >> > _______________________________________________ >> > seaside mailing list >> > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > -- > http://jmck.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button
by Adrian Lienhard Feb. 8, 2010

Feb. 8, 2010

(moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been known before). The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the current platform: swapMouseButtons ^ self valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons ifAbsent: [ OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there a user-specific issue? Cheers, Adrian On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo > 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? > > Lukas > > On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >> Yes, after the correction is working >> >> ciao >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> To: Seaside - general discussion >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >>> >>> Many thanks Mariano. >>> >>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >>> >> >> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me please >> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the real >> right button ? >> >> >>> >>> Grazie >>> >>> Ciao >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Mariano, >>>> >>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different way to >>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >>> >>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a workspace. >>> Both send the same message :) >>> >>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical real >>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys mouse, >>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as "right" >>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and right >>> together. >>> >>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a workspace: >>> >>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >>> >>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No need of >>> the mouse. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Lorenzo >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >>>> >>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >>>> >>>> swapMouseButtons >>>> ^ self >>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>> true ] >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Did that fix it ? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >>>>> >>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification and I >>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, nothing >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >>>>> >>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the Seaside >>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >>>>> >>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able to >>>>>> set mouse properly. >>>>> >>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does not >>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation at >>>>> hand? >>>>> >>>>> Lukas >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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[Pharo-project] New Smalltalk-Research group
by Mariano Martinez Peck Feb. 8, 2010

Feb. 8, 2010

Hi folks. We were discussing about this in the Pharo mailing list but the idea is for all Smalltalkers. I am not sure if this will work, but it is worth to try it as I don't have anything to loose. We were thinking to have a place, an environment and hopefully a community, where we can freely discuss about Smalltalk papers or OO in general. All smalltalkers of all flavors can join, discuss, tell their experiences and thoughts, share and learn. The main purpose about that list is: - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all professional and I think we can discuss with respect. - LEARN. Other uses: - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning. - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can meet people, join forces, etc. - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, conferences, and so on. - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? - Educate people and being educated. - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code for example. - Discuss about research in general. - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic, I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. - others In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN. FAQ: 1) Which is the address? http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-research 2) Do I need to be "Researcher" to join ? Not necessary. You may just be interested. 3) Is there a Nabble interface? Yes: http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-Research-f1473466.html Now, please what I would appreciate is if you can help me to you distribute (I am not in Gemstone, Cincom or GNU for example) this ANN. It would be cool to create a community. I know there are a lot of Smalltalk researchers that doesn't have time to follow the active smalltalks lists. If you can send private mails to them would be fantastic! Thank you very much. Mariano

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[Pharo-project] ImageSegment part 3 ready to integrate
by Mariano Martinez Peck Feb. 8, 2010

Feb. 8, 2010

Issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1940 SLICE-Issue1940-ImageSegmentCleaningPart3-Mariano.3 in PharoInbox. - remove #fixCapitalizationOfSymbols - remove TTCFontSet code from #comeFullyUpOnReload: This even fixes a cycle dependency between ImageSegment and Multilingual - the following implementors were moved to category *System-Object Storage: *startUpFrom: *saveImageSegments: *areThereImageSegments *rootStubInImageSegment: *scanFromNoCompile: aStream forSegment: anImageSegment Now we have a cleaner kernel (Object, Behavior, etc) and a little step more to put ImageSegment as a separate package. This is not possible yet as there are method from the kernel referencing to ImageSegment. Take into account that ImageSegment tests are failing but due to issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1941 However, "rollbacking" that problem I make sure that this ImageSegment version is working. Cheers Mariano

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[Pharo-project] ProfStefBrowser, a GUI for ProfStef
by Danny Chan Feb. 8, 2010

Feb. 8, 2010

Hi! Some of you know, that I made my first dabblings in the Smalltalk world in the last weeks by writing a GUI for ProfStef. The result so far can now be found in the ProfStef repository. There is no Metacello configuration, because I don't know how to make one. Load ProfStef-Core-DannyChan.8 and ProfStefBrowser-DannyChan.18 and start with 'ProfStefBrowser go'. I've implemented some navigation buttons and some buttons to edit the tutorial in the browser. The idea is that people can annotate the tutorials on the fly and may even be able to submit their changes as improvement requests directly from the browser. It would be nice to have some buttons to remove tutorials and lessons as well, but I don't know how to remove classes and methods programmatically. And of course the GUI could have a better look. Have fun, Danny

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[Pharo-project] Any good shrink scripts for pharo targeting the iPhone with deimos?
by Nathan Tuttle Feb. 8, 2010

Feb. 8, 2010

Want to make my pharo app run a little smoother on my iTouch

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Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??
by Dale Henrichs Feb. 7, 2010

Feb. 7, 2010

Henrik, Ahhh, comments ... when I get a comment compiler, I will write comments along with the code... With that said, you are correct that there are missing comments and writing comments _is_ on my todo list. If anyone is interested in taking a crack at writing comments for Metacello (before I get to it), then I would be willing to read and correct them. Dale ----- "Henrik Sperre Johansen" <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: | On 07.02.2010 21:57, Dale Henrichs wrote: | > Bill, | > | > This has been discussed before and there is development underway for | Loader which is aimed at providing a scripting API for Metacello. You | are hitting the nail on the head, but the nail isn't quite ready to be | hit:) | > | > Dale | > | Speaking of missing information, personally I'd really like to see | some | class comments :) (Think I found a single one last time I loaded | Metacello) | | Cheers, | Henry | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??
by Dale Henrichs Feb. 7, 2010

Feb. 7, 2010

Bill, This has been discussed before and there is development underway for Loader which is aimed at providing a scripting API for Metacello. You are hitting the nail on the head, but the nail isn't quite ready to be hit:) Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | Doru, | | This thread over the past couple of days contains the answers, but | briefly, IMHO, the current deployment of Metacello is underspecified | and overly complicated. It begs for better factoring in the interest | of the end user. If nothing else, take an honest look at the various | multi-line snippets in the beginner workspace. Each should | comfortably fit on one line; helper methods could readily get us there | for most configurations. The ones that do not fit a simple scheme | would benefit from some additional behavior. | | Bill | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | Tudor Girba | Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:40 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? | | Hi, | | I think I missed a mail because I do not understand what is a moving | target and I do not know what you mean by "as I said". | | Cheers, | Doru | | | On 7 Feb 2010, at 19:26, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | > As I said, a moving target. I know it is not necessarily easy, but | if | > this is to work we must have either self-describing configurations | or | > a central repository. | > | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr | > ] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba | > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:19 PM | > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? | > | > Hi, | > | > This happens because you do not have the latest ProfStef. to get it, | | > you have to load ProfStef-Core. In the process of checking the | > latest version I also updated both ProfStef-Core and GTProfStef to | | > cope with the latest developments. | > | > Cheers, | > Doru | > | > On 7 Feb 2010, at 14:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | > | >> In an RC2 image, GTProfStef open gives | >> | >> DNU #goOn:viewedWith: | >> | >> After all of: | >> | >> Gofer new | >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; | >> package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; | >> load. | >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: | >> #loadLatestVersion. | >> | >> ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: | #('Tutorial'). | >> | >> | >> Gofer new | >> squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; | >> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; | >> load. | >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. | >> | >> ________________________________________ | >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >> [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >> ] On Behalf Of laurent laffont [laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com] | >> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:06 AM | >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? | >> | >> 2010/2/6 Schwab,Wilhelm K | >> <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu | >>>> | >> The closest thing I see in the tutorial (assuming it is working as | >> intended) is a mention of baseline configurations. If that is in | | >> fact | >> how things can work, there should be an abstract super class for | all | >> configurations (or at least a trait they all use to avoid | duplicate | >> code) and a method that loads the baseline. | >> | >> ProfStef would be a lot more useful if it made use of Polymorph: a | >> table of contents in a left pane, select an item and the righ pane | >> shows the content, actions replaced with buttons rather than | >> forcing a | >> lot of right-clicking. To the extent that those things are | >> difficult, | >> we need easy-to-use tree models. From what I have been able to | >> figure | >> out of the tutorial, a wiki page would be more helpful and more | >> likely | >> to be read. If you "force" loading of code, then there should be | | >> some | >> benefit in the form of interaction. | >> | >> Danny Chan has written ProfStefBrowser (in the same repository as | >> ProfStef) which has both browsing and interactive (ProfStef next) | >> capabilities. | >> Tudor Girba has also written a proof-of-concept using Glamour: | >> Gofer new | >> squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; | >> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; | >> load. | >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. | >> | >> And then: | >> GTProfStef open | >> | >> (You spawn the new lesson by command+o) | >> | >> Cheers | >> | >> Laurent Laffont | >> | >> | >> My question stands. | >> | >> Bill | >> | >> | >> ________________________________ | >> From: | >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project- | >> bounc | >> es(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> | >>> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo- | | >>> proj | >>> ect-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck | >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:52 PM | >> To: | >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo- | >> project(a)lists.gforge. | >> inria.fr | >>> | >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? | >> | >> | >> | >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K | >> <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu <mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: | >> For any given cofiguration, how does one know which version to | load? | >> There are incantations in the beginner workspace, but what happens | | >> for | >> things not listed there? | >> | >> | >> You must know about Metacello. As you can noticed, that's why I | >> added the link to the tutorial. | >> | >> Bill | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Pharo-project mailing list | >> | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> | >> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | >> | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Pharo-project mailing list | >> | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> | >> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | >> | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Pharo-project mailing list | >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | > | > -- | > www.tudorgirba.com | > | > "When people care, great things can happen." | > | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Pharo-project mailing list | > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Pharo-project mailing list | > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | -- | www.tudorgirba.com | | "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at | them." | | | | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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[Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??
by Schwab,Wilhelm K Feb. 7, 2010

Feb. 7, 2010

For any given cofiguration, how does one know which version to load? There are incantations in the beginner workspace, but what happens for things not listed there? Bill

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