Hi, Indeed, it is pretty nice. I particularly like that executing ProfStef next does spawn the next lesson :). However, I would decouple the two user interfaces because they address two different categories of people: - the browser is for the one that wants to learn. For this user, it is probably confusing to also deal with the administration buttons from the bottom. - the tutorial creation is for the one that wants to teach. This guy does want to see the tutorial, so the navigation bar is useful in this case. Cheers, Doru On 7 Feb 2010, at 19:15, laurent laffont wrote:

Hi Danny,

It's cool to be able to create a new tutorial here ! Note there's a bug if you click on "new tutorial" then Cancel.

Cheers,

Laurent Laffont

2010/2/7 Danny Chan <chan_dhf@yahoo.de> Hi!

Some of you know, that I made my first dabblings in the Smalltalk world in the last weeks by writing a GUI for ProfStef. The result so far can now be found in the ProfStef repository. There is no Metacello configuration, because I don't know how to make one. Load ProfStef-Core-DannyChan.8 and ProfStefBrowser-DannyChan.18 and start with 'ProfStefBrowser go'.

I've implemented some navigation buttons and some buttons to edit the tutorial in the browser. The idea is that people can annotate the tutorials on the fly and may even be able to submit their changes as improvement requests directly from the browser. It would be nice to have some buttons to remove tutorials and lessons as well, but I don't know how to remove classes and methods programmatically. And of course the GUI could have a better look.

Have fun, Danny

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Hi, On 8 Feb 2010, at 07:50, Danny Chan wrote:

Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2010 19:27:16 schrieb Tudor Girba:

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Hi,

Indeed, it is pretty nice. I particularly like that executing ProfStef next does spawn the next lesson :).

However, I would decouple the two user interfaces because they address two different categories of people: - the browser is for the one that wants to learn. For this user, it is probably confusing to also deal with the administration buttons from the bottom. - the tutorial creation is for the one that wants to teach. This guy does want to see the tutorial, so the navigation bar is useful in this case.

Hi!

I see the point, although I disagree. Personally, I annotate every learning material I get with my own notes, if possible. And new stuff I learn that is related I try to keep at the same place. I think this is interesting especially in Smalltalk where you are encouraged to explore the system. I would expect someone starting with a basic tutorial and then turning to explore the system and documenting the learning process in the help system itself, and even be able to share it with others. A pupil can quickly become a teacher, and quite often the one who has just learned something is the best person to explain it to other newcomers.

I see your point for complete newbies, though. So maybe enabling the authoring bar can be made a preference, and the last lesson in an introduction like Laurent's syntax tutorial can contain some code to switch on the bar.

Indeed, a solution along this path is what I had in mind. Cheers, Doru

Danny

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