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[Pharo-project] downloading Pharo by Example
by Ralph Boland Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

When I attempted to download the Pharo By Example book at: http://www.pharobyexample.org/ I got the download error: /tmp/PBE1-2009-10-28-2.pdf could not be opened because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. Can anyone suggest what the problem is? I am running Ubuntu 9.10 and downloading using the version of Firefox coming with 9.10. Regards, Ralph Boland -- Had a wife and kids in Florida, Jack (Nicklaus) Went out for a "ride" but I couldn't get back As a ten timer being hunted down OR When the wife found out who I was knowing (biblically) I hit a hydrant and I just kept going. ...

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[Pharo-project] Do you want to discuss about papers?
by Mariano Martinez Peck Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I first wanted to ask you what do you think. I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and please tell me where is it. I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of all flavors can join and discuss. The main purpose about that list is: - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all professional and I think we can discuss with respect. - LEARN. Other uses: - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can meet people, join forces, etc. - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, conferences, and so on - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a conference/workshop - Educate people and being educated - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code for example - Discuss about research in general - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic, I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. - others I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from ECOOP 1986 (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some chapters of the blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I have ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe there is someone who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows what happened, if it worked really or not, the advantages and drawbacks, the repercussion it had, etc. That information, those opinions, you cannot get it from other place. So, what do you think? Do you like the idea or has no sense ? If you like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all Smalltalk mailing lists I know. In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN. Cheers Mariano

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[Pharo-project] Fwd: can we mention that your company is using pharo?
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hi pharoers I'm happy that pharo is used to create wealth and I wanted to share that with you ;) Stef >>> We're only using it for an internal application right now, so the details wouldn't be very interesting. I suppose you can call it a "medical case management system". It uses Seaside, a bit of Magritte and Magma. >>> The application replaces a Ruby on Rails application that I built for them 4 years ago. I switched to Squeak Smalltalk last summer and I waited until you guys got Pharo to beta status, then I switched the server to Pharo in October. >>> Thanks for all of the hard work you guys are doing! I really appreciate it and enjoy using Pharo and following your work.

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[Pharo-project] Newbie question deploying smalltalk applications
by Nathan Tuttle Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

I created a CRC calculating algorithm and I want to be able to deploy my application for other people to use. I am not sure how to package an image so that it is user friendly. Any help would be nice. Thanks

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[Pharo-project] Newbie question deploying smalltalk applications
by Torsten Bergmann Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

If you want to deploy a source package for others to consume just use Monticello and SqueakSource. But I think you talk about deploying to an end user (commercial product, ...) not about making code available for other pharo developers. So how to deploy a "consumer" app with Pharo: ============================================= As always that depends on kind of application and the target system you want to deploy to. Typically you distribute an image with the running/prepared application together with the VM for the target platform: First the VM ============ Some scenarios: A. If you have written a seaside web application you can deploy the image/VM on your own root server or on a seaside hosting platform (like www.seasidehosting.com) There is a good description in the seaside book [1]. Thats an easy deployment since you just have to tell your customer a URL where the app runs. B. If you want to deploy to iPhone just ask John McIntosh how he packaged the app (iphone vm + image) for the Apple Store Since the memory is limited you may have to reduce the image size (unload packages, ...) with an own custom shrinking script C. If you want to deploy a desktop like app/or web app to multiple platforms use the one click distribution since there are already VM's for Linux, Win, Mac. Just exchange the image with your own one. Have a look at the piercms.com application or the seaside image. They use this kind of deployment with a ZIP. D. If you deploy to windows (Win32 only) you may want to be closer to Windows app rules - so you may want to build a custom Win VM executable (*.exe) with your own icons and a platform specific installer copying the image and VM. See [2] how to do that. The Pharo Win32 Installer is built this way. If you think VM building is rocket science you can also exchange the icons using reshacker [3] in a standard Pharo windows VM. And the image ============= Anything other depends on how you prepare the image. Typically you may want to 1. Reduce the image size by throwing out anything that is not required by your app and which is useless for your customer (unit tests, dev tools). This process is called "shrinking" an image. Take care since it is often usefull to keep dev tools inside since you can easily debug a failure situation at your customers place later. At least you typically may want to disable developer facilities, implement a different walkback window so the customer gets a notification instead of a "debug it" button and so on, ... To reduce the size of the image I would also clear Monticello caches, throw out unused Form instances, ... There are many tricks here - depends on how far you want to go. Google for "Squeak" and "shrinking" and you will find more. If size doesnt matter just use the image as it is or use a pharo-dev image for development and a pharo-core image for deployment. 2. However - typically you just want to deploy the VM only together with the image, no changes and source file necessary for your customer. Therefore you may want to disable the two preferences "warnIfNoSourcesFile" and "warnIfNoChangesFile" (see [2]) before saving the image. So you dont have to redistribute the changes and source files 3. Open your application, either manually or by a custom launcher and the startup list (see [2]) 4. Save your image in this predefined "ready" state so when the customer starts the image with the VM he can instantly use your app. So "deployment" in Smalltalk is different and a little bit more complicated since you have many options. It would help if you would tell us a little bit more so we can answer specific questions... Bye Torsten [1] http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment [2] http://squeakvm.org/win32/custom.html [3] http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

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[Pharo-project] Collect Screenshots for advertising
by stephane ducasse Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hi torsten got a really nice initiative: collection screenshots of pharo http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1931 Stef

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[Pharo-project] Pharo advertising/screenshots (OS/devices)
by Torsten Bergmann Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1931 for details -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser

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[Pharo-project] Final 1.0 Steps: list of actions performed in pharo 1.0
by stephane ducasse Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hi guys I added the list of actions we performed in pharo 1.0 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOne?ts=1265189477&updated… We should move on and make that list shinning a bit. Then use the trick of miguel and get done So mike can you have a look at the english. Adrian can you do a pass on them. Stef

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[Pharo-project] DirectoryEntry does not inherit from ArrayedCollection [WAS] Re: [squeak-dev] 3.11 questions
by Mariano Martinez Peck Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 4) I have refactored DirectoryEntry to no longer inherit from > ArrayedCollection. Is this an improvement with any community > interest? > > Do you think this is interesting ? What are the benefits of such change ? Jannik: do we kill a cycle dependency or something with this change ? Kind regards, Mariano

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[Pharo-project] What about a "real" research group (was: Do you want to discuss about papers?)
by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

I'm ok for such a list... Nevertheless, I'm wondering if we could go a bit further by doing a kind of research group with a proper web site listing all people involved and the projects there're working on. We could then establish some categories and eventually sub-groups. List all published papers, gives ressources to people... We could also have a workshop every year (in ESUG or eventually independantly). More importantly than discussions on papers, I think we need to characterise people and their "expertise" area... For instance, I'm interested in some areas that are not really focussed in Computer Science problematics (new compiler, traits, etc...). To me Smalltalk is the vehicle (a fun one) to experiment my research stuffs. Here are some areas I'm working on: -Case Based Reasoning - essentially similarity measure with uncertainty -Constraint Satisfaction Programming (more interested in open models) and especially the coupling between CBR and CSP -NARS, a kind of General AI (logical stuff) -Dynamic open models in general -> Coevolution of model and their instances (something I'd really like to dig into) -Modeling Imperfect Information, ie. incomplete, uncertain, umprecise (-> so as to model expert information) - I would like to apply that to poker game in the future :) - This is maybe the central aspect of my work Here is a quick list of what I do or plan to do... Having a central web site would be excellent for visibility (of course a mailing can be setup too), both for Smalltalk and for people doing research with it. What others think ? Would you be ok for a central wiki where each person describe in one page what their research is, what their future projects are, what they need are... We could gather all confs calls that are potentially interesting... Of course this need some setup and reflexion to structure the group/website but I think it worth it... And count me in if people like the idea. CÃ©drick

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