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Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager
by Evan Donahue Sept. 25, 2023

Sept. 25, 2023

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. Evan

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Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini
by Ted F.A.van Gaalen Jan. 27, 2020

Jan. 27, 2020

Hi, I reverted to 5.0 because Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit hangs on my Mac Mini with UDH 4K screen (may that has to do with?) with its maiden image (at first start after download when: I resize or go to full screen. Maybe VM problem? my mac Mini metrics: Hardware Overview: Model Name: Mac mini Model Identifier: Macmini6,2 Processor Name: Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2,6 GHz Number of Processors: 1 Total Number of Cores: 4 L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 4 GB Boot ROM Version: MM61.0106.B1F SMC Version (system): 2.8f0 maybe this problem was already reported, but could find it. Kind Regards TedvG

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Namespaces (was Re: Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk)
by Ben Coman Dec. 24, 2019

Dec. 24, 2019

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > horrido wrote > > Having separate namespaces would be really good. > > VisualWorks has them. Why not Pharo? > > I can't remember ever hearing disagreement on this subject. It seems the > only questions have been: 1) how to do them *right*, The default position would be leveraging someone else's experience, so this begs the question, what is wrong in namespace implementations in VW, Gemstone, Squeak (as our immediate neighbours, then plus Dolphin, SmalltalkX, other languages) Are there been any research papers around comparing these? I found the "Pharo on Gemstone VM" talk impressive. The "develop on Pharo deploy on Gemstone" philosophy seems like a nice synergy for Pharo's commercial future. So a naive approach would be to do namespaces just like Gemstone. Maybe its not the best, but would it be "good enough" -- perfection being the enemy of done and all that jazz. cheers -ben > and 2) where they fall on the endless prioritized todo list >

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Microsoft COM
by Ben Coman Sept. 27, 2019

Sept. 27, 2019

Hi Pablo, At work I managed to remote control Internet Explorer with Excel VBA like this... [1] http://www.automateexcel.com/vba/automate-internet-explorer and went looking for how similar might be achieved from Pharo. IIUC I discovered this would be done via Microsoft's Component Object Model, and then I bumped into your repo... [2] https://github.com/tesonep/pharo-com Could you advise the status and your plans for this? Since I see its only a few months old I've probably stumbled onto it prematurely, but I see no documentation or tests to discover how to use it. So I'll curious whether it makes something like [1] possible? And could you show how that would be done? cheers -ben P.S. For context, at work I automated IE since the intranet document management system (OpenText) does authentication via a javascript function in the browser, which doesn't compute with Microsoft's MSXML.DOMDocument component. So I use IE to do the authentication and grab the raw XML from IE to then stuff it into MSXML.DOMDocument from which I pull the data I need. But I'd love to do it with Pharo instead (if I can get IT to white list it) cheers -ben

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Aggregation framework in MongoTalk?
by phil＠highoctane.be Feb. 18, 2019

Feb. 18, 2019

Is there anyone using the aggregation framework of MongDb through MongoTalk? It uses the aggregate() command, so I was wondering if this could be supported out of the box or if there is a need for an additional Operation. TIA Phil

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Pharo 6 snap package
by Alistair Grant Sept. 20, 2018

Sept. 20, 2018

Hi Everyone, I've updated the Pharo 6 snap package for Ubuntu. The major advantages of using the snap package are: - No need to install all the 32 bit dependencies on a 64 bit system, they're all contained and isolated within the snap package. - Automagically distinguish between 32 bit and 64 bit images and run the appropriate VM (as with the ZeroConf package, the 64 bit VM still needs more testing). To get Pharo up and running on Ubuntu 16.04 or later: # Install Pharo $ sudo snap install --candidate pharo --classic # If your system isn't configured for threaded heartbeat: $ sudo pharo.config # Download the latest Pharo 6 image $ pharo.getimage # Go... $ pharo.ui Pharo.image # or: $ pharo Pharo.image eval 4+3 To get a list of available commands: $ snap info pharo If you're on Debian or Ubuntu 14.04 you'll need to install snapd, see https://snapcraft.io/docs/core/install The VM is the threaded heartbeat, dated 201705310241. The installation flags are: --candidate - The edge and beta channels are for development versions. It progresses to candidate and then stable. --classic - Snap packages are normally sandboxed for security reasons. Since Pharo is a development environment in which we want to be able to run any executable, or load any library, it is installed with access to the entire system (as the running user). Why use snap packages? - They include all dependencies. In particular, for the 32 bit versions, this means that it isn't necessary to install all the 32 bit architecture and associated dependencies. - Including dependencies means that there shouldn't be any problems with incompatible library versions when upgrading. Why not use snap packages? - It's a relatively new technology, with a number of rough edges. - There may still be issues with its sandboxing that I haven't discovered yet. - Because the package uses classic confinement, it isn't cross-distribution in practice (unfortunately). Please let me know of any other advantages or disadvantages you think should be listed here. If you don't trust me to configure your system correctly (which requires sudo): - All the scripts that make up the sub-commands are visible, e.g. pharo.config can be viewed at /snap/pharo/current/usr/bin/CONFIG The packaging code is at: https://github.com/akgrant43/pharo-snap Cheers, Alistair

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Retina support in Pharo
by markm Sept. 20, 2018

Sept. 20, 2018

Hi Is it possible to get Pharo (4 or 5) to run with retina support on OS X? I have tried searching for some answers, but alas could only find a handful of posts from a few years back. Any help much appreciated! Mark -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Retina-support-in-Pharo-tp4895245.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Yet another Pharo in docker
by Herby VojÄÃk Sept. 18, 2018

Sept. 18, 2018

https://hub.docker.com/r/herbysk/pharo/

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Spec on Moose 6.0 error: MessageNotUnderstood: ToolDockingBarMorph>>popUpOwner
by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas May 15, 2018

May 15, 2018

Hi, I'm getting this error while trying to prototype some interface with Spec on Moose 6.0: MessageNotUnderstood: ToolDockingBarMorph>>popUpOwner it happens anytime that I'm using displaying a MenuModel and I go to the menu items. I imagine that the menu item is complaining about a lacking pop up message. How can I solve this? Thanks, Offray

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#ast vs. #parseTree
by Sean P. DeNigris May 9, 2018

May 9, 2018

Why does CompiledMethod understand both? They are in the same protocol, produce the same kindOf result, and neither has a method comment! :/ (Pharo 4.0) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ast-vs-parseTree-tp4893074.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Looking for small boards and tiny computers which can run Pharo
by Steven Costiou March 29, 2018

March 29, 2018

Hi, i am looking for: - small hardware, boards/computers, "embeddable" devices, etc. that can run Pharo (except Raspberry pi that i already know) - robots, flying drones or things alike with an open linux which can possibly run Pharo Could somebody points me to documentation or web sites where such things can be found ? Thanks, Steven.

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Porting Transducers to Pharo
by Steffen MÃ¤rcker March 21, 2018

March 21, 2018

Hi, I am the developer of the library 'Transducers' for VisualWorks. It was formerly known as 'Reducers', but this name was a poor choice. I'd like to port it to Pharo, if there is any interest on your side. I hope to learn more about Pharo in this process, since I am mainly a VW guy. And most likely, I will come up with a bunch of questions. :-) Meanwhile, I'll cross-post the introduction from VWnc below. I'd be very happy to hear your optinions, questions and I hope we can start a fruitful discussion - even if there is not Pharo port yet. Best, Steffen Transducers are building blocks that encapsulate how to process elements of a data sequence independently of the underlying input and output source. # Overview ## Encapsulate Implementations of enumeration methods, such as #collect:, have the logic how to process a single element in common. However, that logic is reimplemented each and every time. Transducers make it explicit and facilitate re-use and coherent behavior. For example: - #collect: requires mapping: (aBlock1 map) - #select: requires filtering: (aBlock2 filter) ## Compose In practice, algorithms often require multiple processing steps, e.g., mapping only a filtered set of elements. Transducers are inherently composable, and hereby, allow to make the combination of steps explicit. Since transducers do not build intermediate collections, their composition is memory-efficient. For example: - (aBlock1 filter) * (aBlock2 map) "(1.) filter and (2.) map elements" ## Re-Use Transducers are decoupled from the input and output sources, and hence, they can be reused in different contexts. For example: - enumeration of collections - processing of streams - communicating via channels # Usage by Example We build a coin flipping experiment and count the occurrence of heads and tails. First, we associate random numbers with the sides of a coin. scale := [:x | (x * 2 + 1) floor] map. sides := #(heads tails) replace. Scale is a transducer that maps numbers x between 0 and 1 to 1 and 2. Sides is a transducer that replaces the numbers with heads an tails by lookup in an array. Next, we choose a number of samples. count := 1000 take. Count is a transducer that takes 1000 elements from a source. We keep track of the occurrences of heads an tails using a bag. collect := [:bag :c | bag add: c; yourself]. Collect is binary block (reducing function) that collects events in a bag. We assemble the experiment by transforming the block using the transducers. experiment := (scale * sides * count) transform: collect. From left to right we see the steps involved: scale, sides, count and collect. Transforming assembles these steps into a binary block (reducing function) we can use to run the experiment. samples := Random new reduce: experiment init: Bag new. Here, we use #reduce:init:, which is mostly similar to #inject:into:. To execute a transformation and a reduction together, we can use #transduce:reduce:init:. samples := Random new transduce: scale * sides * count reduce: collect init: Bag new. We can also express the experiment as data-flow using #<~. This enables us to build objects that can be re-used in other experiments. coin := sides <~ scale <~ Random new. flip := Bag <~ count. Coin is an eduction, i.e., it binds transducers to a source and understands #reduce:init: among others. Flip is a transformed reduction, i.e., it binds transducers to a reducing function and an initial value. By sending #<~, we draw further samples from flipping the coin. samples := flip <~ coin. This yields a new Bag with another 1000 samples. # Basic Concepts ## Reducing Functions A reducing function represents a single step in processing a data sequence. It takes an accumulated result and a value, and returns a new accumulated result. For example: collect := [:col :e | col add: e; yourself]. sum := #+. A reducing function can also be ternary, i.e., it takes an accumulated result, a key and a value. For example: collect := [:dic :k :v | dict at: k put: v; yourself]. Reducing functions may be equipped with an optional completing action. After finishing processing, it is invoked exactly once, e.g., to free resources. stream := [:str :e | str nextPut: each; yourself] completing: #close. absSum := #+ completing: #abs A reducing function can end processing early by signaling Reduced with a result. This mechanism also enables the treatment of infinite sources. nonNil := [:res :e | e ifNil: [Reduced signalWith: res] ifFalse: [res]]. The primary approach to process a data sequence is the reducing protocol with the messages #reduce:init: and #transduce:reduce:init: if transducers are involved. The behavior is similar to #inject:into: but in addition it takes care of: - handling binary and ternary reducing functions, - invoking the completing action after finishing, and - stopping the reduction if Reduced is signaled. The message #transduce:reduce:init: just combines the transformation and the reducing step. However, as reducing functions are step-wise in nature, an application may choose other means to process its data. ## Reducibles A data source is called reducible if it implements the reducing protocol. Default implementations are provided for collections and streams. Additionally, blocks without an argument are reducible, too. This allows to adapt to custom data sources without additional effort. For example: "XStreams adaptor" xstream := filename reading. reducible := [[xstream get] on: Incomplete do: [Reduced signal]]. "natural numbers" n := 0. reducible := [n := n+1]. ## Transducers A transducer is an object that transforms a reducing function into another. Transducers encapsulate common steps in processing data sequences, such as map, filter, concatenate, and flatten. A transducer transforms a reducing function into another via #transform: in order to add those steps. They can be composed using #* which yields a new transducer that does both transformations. Most transducers require an argument, typically blocks, symbols or numbers: square := Map function: #squared. take := Take number: 1000. To facilitate compact notation, the argument types implement corresponding methods: squareAndTake := #squared map * 1000 take. Transducers requiring no argument are singletons and can be accessed by their class name. flattenAndDedupe := Flatten * Dedupe. # Advanced Concepts ## Data flows Processing a sequence of data can often be regarded as a data flow. The operator #<~ allows define a flow from a data source through processing steps to a drain. For example: squares := Set <~ 1000 take <~ #squared map <~ (1 to: 1000). fileOut writeStream <~ #isSeparator filter <~ fileIn readStream. In both examples #<~ is only used to set up the data flow using reducing functions and transducers. In contrast to streams, transducers are completely independent from input and output sources. Hence, we have a clear separation of reading data, writing data and processing elements. - Sources know how to iterate over data with a reducing function, e.g., via #reduce:init:. - Drains know how to collect data using a reducing function. - Transducers know how to process single elements. ## Reductions A reduction binds an initial value or a block yielding an initial value to a reducing function. The idea is to define a ready-to-use process that can be applied in different contexts. Reducibles handle reductions via #reduce: and #transduce:reduce: For example: sum := #+ init: 0. sum1 := #(1 1 1) reduce: sum. sum2 := (1 to: 1000) transduce: #odd filter reduce: sum. asSet := [:set :e | set add: e; yourself] initializer: [Set new]. set1 := #(1 1 1) reduce: asSet. set2 := #(1 to: 1000) transduce: #odd filter reduce: asSet. By combining a transducer with a reduction, a process can be further modified. sumOdds := sum <~ #odd filter setOdds := asSet <~ #odd filter ## Eductions An eduction combines a reducible data sources with a transducer. The idea is to define a transformed (virtual) data source that needs not to be stored in memory. odds1 := #odd filter <~ #(1 2 3) readStream. odds2 := #odd filter <~ (1 to 1000). Depending on the underlying source, eductions can be processed once (streams, e.g., odds1) or multiple times (collections, e.g., odds2). Since no intermediate data is stored, transducers actions are lazy, i.e., they are invoked each time the eduction is processed. # Origins Transducers is based on the same-named Clojure library and its ideas. Please see: http://clojure.org/transducers

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About validation
by StÃ©phane Ducasse March 11, 2018

March 11, 2018

Hi I read the chapter on validation of the mentoring course book of andres valloud. http://www.lulu.com/fr/fr/shop/andres-valloud/a-mentoring-course-on-smallta… And I love this extension of SUnit. I loved the idea when I saw it for the first time at Lugano (presentation of Leandro Caniglia). I encourage everybody to read it. Now does anybody implemented in Pharo the SUnit extension? I would like to play with it and eventually write a chapter on it for the next book. The idea is so good. Stef

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Embedded PDF viewer?
by Manuel Leuenberger Feb. 6, 2018

Feb. 6, 2018

Hi, I want to view a PDF within Pharo. I found that Athens has a PDF canvas, but I have no idea how to use it. Is there a way to view a PDF within Pharo, so that I can scroll, zoom, click links etc. in the PDF? Cheers, Manuel

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Usability issues with Calypso
by kmo Dec. 27, 2017

Dec. 27, 2017

I have been keen to use Calypso (I love the way it shows inherited methods) as my browser but I am finding some usability issues. It may be just me but some things I find off-putting. I don't really like the way that adding a new class is done by a new tab that appears now and then in the editing area. To my mind the Nautilus way of launching a dialog to create a class seems more natural - and opens the way in future for a class creation wizard - something that can't be done in a code window. If we have to do it in a code tab then it would be better if the tab remained there all the time - I don't like the way it appears and disappears. It takes a while to learn what to click to do this. Also, all class creation presumes a subclass of Object in Calypso. i miss the ability in Nautilus to select a class and immediately create a subclass of it. Am I missing something here? Is there a way? On the topic of my ignorance - what is a /project /in Calypso? How do you create one? And what does realize do? Also I think that the pop up menus could be subdivided into categories rather than present all the options in an unbroken list. And the order of options seems odd. To my mind/ senders /and /implementers /are two menu options that should always go together - not be separated by/ rename/ and /move to class side/ et cetera. Just my two cents. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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OSProcess lock image
by Hilaire Dec. 12, 2017

Dec. 12, 2017

Hello, On Pharo4, when I type the command: OSProcess waitForCommand: 'ls' it locks the image, I can get back control with [Alt]-. With the same image and VM, this command was previously working, even called from a Seaside component. Any idea? Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

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FYI about Pharo MOOC
by horrido Dec. 10, 2017

Dec. 10, 2017

Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f… To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-… Some food for thought. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk
by horrido Dec. 9, 2017

Dec. 9, 2017

Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk <https://medium.com/smalltalk-talk/behold-pharo-the-modern-smalltalk-38e132c…> If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to improve the impact of the article. Thanks. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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Nov. 25, 2017

Hi again, this is my last question and the more general one of the day :-) Iâm looking for way of representing and executing simple "business processes" in Pharo and a way of declaring domain ontologies/taxonomies. I didnât find any lib around this subjects except some projects in other smalltalk dialects. I just wander if somebody has done some work in these field. Iâm also interested in (KISS) design discussions around these topics, hence this email. I donât want to do a full fledged business process middleware. I would need : - a way to represent simple business processes (succession of activities with logic gates (and/or/xor) => I might be able to do that by myself). - a way to execute these processes (routines) in a semi-aotumatic manner => This looks more difficult to do to me. => my aim is to execute recurrent routines (my routines) with the help of a Pharo application For such a system, I also need a way to categorize information context. Again, I donât think I need a full fledged ontology implementation like Description Logic (or whatever). I think Iâll be happy with information tagging according to a predefined taxonomy. Instead of flat tags, Iâd like them to implement some sort of multiple inheritance. For instance, I may need a tag #soccer that "inherit" #sport. Any information regarding taxonomy tagging in Pharo ? (Or eventually ontology?). TIA, CÃ©drick

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How to deploy headless app without changes and source files?
by Andreas Sunardi Nov. 19, 2017

Nov. 19, 2017

I found this StackOverflow question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-pha… and this older forum thread: https://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg21170.h… I'm using Pharo5.0 and neither of these options is available anymore. What is the new way to do this? -- Andreas Sunardi

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X11 options on Ubuntu VM / Athens rendering problems
by J.F. Rick Nov. 18, 2017

Nov. 18, 2017

I'm running a fullscreen Pharo application on Ubuntu and I've noticed that Athens rendering gets way worse (maybe 10 updates per second) when I switch to fullscreen mode from inside Pharo. Ideally, I'd love for that to be fixed. In lieu of that, it would be cool if I could just maximize Pharo to the size of the screen to achieve good performance. Two things stop that: the Unity application bar and the title-bar. For the former, I can configure Unity to hide it. I noticed a '-notitle' X11 option when I execute pharo -help. I've tried using these X11 options and neither -notitle or -fullscreen seem to have any effect. Here's the command I run: ./bin/pharo --encoding utf8 -vm-display-X11 -fullscreen PATH_TO_IMAGE & Pharo starts fine but neither option seems to have any effect. I've also tried this in GNOME, thinking that Unity was the problem. Again, no effect. Any suggestions? Jeff

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Teapot and Websockets
by Georges Nov. 18, 2017

Nov. 18, 2017

Hello, Is it somehow possible to have a Teapot server running within there a WebsocketHandler (for instance ZnWebSocketChatroomHandler). Something like: Teapot on WS: '/ws-chatroom' -> [: aWebSocket | self registerWebSocket: aWebSocket ]; start. Or is this totally wrong? Georges -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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Exchanging information between 2 pharo applications (2 images running on two different computers)
by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler Nov. 16, 2017

Nov. 16, 2017

Hi all, I want to connect two applications (1 by image, each one on a different computer) so as as to exchange information (data) between them. So my question is about the best (smalltalk) practices to connect two app/image and exchange data. I imagine either with a direct connection through a network (TCP Socket, Web socket, pure HTTP with Zinc) and/or with a serial connection. At first, without any Â« security Â». But later, information exchanges will be encrypted. Iâve seen some information on how to use SerialPort, or even FileStream. I could do it (or at least simulate it with HTTP). What are the other options ? Socket ? Do we have P2P libs (I couldnât find) with eventually discovery features ? Any comment / suggestion / pointers are greatly welcome. TIA. CÃ©drick

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[ann] pillar text editor
by Tudor Girba Nov. 15, 2017

Nov. 15, 2017

Hi, Pillar now ships with a text editor that also features a syntax highlighter. So, now, if you load the development version of Pillar: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pier' project: 'Pillar'; configuration; loadDevelopment. You will have an extra presentation when inspecting a .pillar file: The new thing here is that the highlighter is based on the Pillar PetitParser, and it is extensible for highlighting more parts if needed. The highlighting also can support actions. For example, the picture above shows the file to the right after clicking on the reference. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Things happen when they happen, not when you talk about them happening."

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QCMagritte on Github
by laurent laffont Nov. 14, 2017

Nov. 14, 2017

Hi, my team starts to use QCMagritte. For our needs we have imported SmalltalkHub repository to Github here: https://github.com/Afibre/QCMagritte I don't know if you (Diego, Stephan, Tobias) plan to use Github instead of SmalltalkHub. At least Github allows branches & pull request. Regards, Laurent Laffont

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