FYI about Pharo MOOC
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6... To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4... Some food for thought. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english- b07f6445f23
To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are- like-lecturers-in-university-49a68c23cf01
Some food for thought.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something like, please don't show me anything other cultures, even if I just need to turn on captions and read(!), like most of us did to learn English by ourselves. Whenever I have the opportunity, I see movies in their native language and just add subtitles, to lost less in translation. Yes, English is the third most spread language and is good for intercultural communication, because is the most spread *second* language, but sadly, most English native speaker don't even bother about experience the minimum of other language and cultures, beyond the "tourist package" and even hear another language seems too much effort. Fortunately there is a minority of native English speakers that thinks different. Thanks for the voice translation. It improves a course that was already good and totally doable with subtitles. Keep the good work. Cheers, Offray On 10/10/17 08:05, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6... <https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6...>
To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4... <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4...>
Some food for thought.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html>
-- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something like, please don't show me anything other cultures, even if I just need to turn on captions and read(!), like most of us did to learn English by ourselves. Whenever I have the opportunity, I see movies in their native language and just add subtitles, to lost less in translation. Yes, English is the third most spread language and is good for intercultural communication, because is the most spread *second* language, but sadly, most English native speaker don't even bother about experience the minimum of other language and cultures, beyond the "tourist package" and even hear another language seems too much effort. Fortunately there is a minority of native English speakers that thinks different.
Thanks for the voice translation. It improves a course that was already good and totally doable with subtitles.
Keep the good work. Cheers,
Offray
On 10/10/17 08:05, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC:
https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6...
To which I responded:
https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4...
Some food for thought.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:02:31 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles
Is there possibility to access MOOC files via FTP which should be better interface when one has to donwload many files (I do not use any HTTP download manager)? Sincerely, Gour p.s. I don't mind about French speakers and/or English subtitles being thankful that MOOC is available at all freely! -- Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
Hi Gour I do not know. I'm (I neeeeeeeed time) working on a starterKit to be shipped on USB and this script could be used to download during the night the mooc. I also asked Inria if I could use a bittorrent to share the mooc. I do not think that our servers have a ftp access from outside (I cannot upload file when I'm not under our vpn). I'm make a replication on a private provider but I do not know yet how to give access. I will ask one guy thursday and let you know. Stef We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;) On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:02:31 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles
Is there possibility to access MOOC files via FTP which should be better interface when one has to donwload many files (I do not use any HTTP download manager)?
Sincerely, Gour
p.s. I don't mind about French speakers and/or English subtitles being thankful that MOOC is available at all freely!
-- Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
OMG!!! "sexy french accents" - you are too much!!!! ----- Brad Selfridge -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-) Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles? Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences. Sincerely, Gour --
From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/ Stef On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:59:53 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
I've downloaded one and can I safelyassume that the 'new' videos are same content as the old ones jsut with the English voice dubbed over? In that case, I'd prefer to use/watch old ones with the subtitles. Sincerely, Gour -- He who is satisfied with gain which comes of its own accord, who is free from duality and does not envy, who is steady in both success and failure, is never entangled, although performing actions.
I could help with the Greek subtitles but I am fundamental against the idea of learning anything code wise in a non english language. It does much more damage than good. Congrats for making it so accessible and all your hard work :) On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:42 AM Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:59:53 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
I've downloaded one and can I safelyassume that the 'new' videos are same content as the old ones jsut with the English voice dubbed over?
In that case, I'd prefer to use/watch old ones with the subtitles.
Sincerely, Gour
-- He who is satisfied with gain which comes of its own accord, who is free from duality and does not envy, who is steady in both success and failure, is never entangled, although performing actions.
I played C019SD-W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the reasoning for this. cheers -ben On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
The production company told us that it was super strange without our voices. Now you can also have the french + subtitles. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD-W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the reasoning for this.
cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
Oh good, glad the French version is still there.  I was starting to go through it a couple of weeks ago and plan to continue starting this weekend.  Although my mother tongue is English, at one point I was fluently bilingual (both Quebecois and actual French), and it's a chance to get some of it back while picking up information I've likely missed on less obvious features. I can understand French well enough, but the more I hear it spoken the better. Reading/writing don't get rusty as easily. Of course speaking it would be even better, but I don't get many chances to do so in Toronto âº. Andrew -----Original Message----- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:06:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Reply-to: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo- users@lists.pharo.org> From: Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> The production company told us that it was super strange without our voices. Now you can also have the french + subtitles. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD-W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4and as well as the english voice, in the background Ican still hear youroriginal french voice.I'm curious therea soning forthis. cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmai l.com>wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions.you canfind them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/ Stef OnTue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english nati ves would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the  current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
In fact the files have two tracks. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Andrew Glynn <aglynn42@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh good, glad the French version is still there. I was starting to go through it a couple of weeks ago and plan to continue starting this weekend. Although my mother tongue is English, at one point I was fluently bilingual (both Quebecois and actual French), and it's a chance to get some of it back while picking up information I've likely missed on less obvious features.
I can understand French well enough, but the more I hear it spoken the better. Reading/writing don't get rusty as easily.
Of course speaking it would be even better, but I don't get many chances to do so in Toronto âº.
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:06:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Reply-to: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo- users@lists.pharo.org> From: Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> The production company told us that it was super strange without our voices. Now you can also have the french + subtitles.
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD- W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the rea soning for this.
cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <step haro.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english nati ves would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
I have to confess I am a fan of the french accent english too , it has a nice musicality in it +1 for subtitles. I love accents, the more the better :D On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:28 PM Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
In fact the files have two tracks.
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Andrew Glynn <aglynn42@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh good, glad the French version is still there. I was starting to go through it a couple of weeks ago and plan to continue starting this weekend. Although my mother tongue is English, at one point I was fluently bilingual (both Quebecois and actual French), and it's a chance to get some of it back while picking up information I've likely missed on less obvious features.
I can understand French well enough, but the more I hear it spoken the better. Reading/writing don't get rusty as easily.
Of course speaking it would be even better, but I don't get many chances to do so in Toronto âº.
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:06:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Reply-to: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo- users@lists.pharo.org> From: Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> The production company told us that it was super strange without our voices. Now you can also have the french + subtitles.
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD- W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the rea soning for this.
cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <step haro.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english nati ves would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
There seems to be an issue with the english dubbed version of Week 5 lesson 4 - it has no content C019SD-W5-S4-EN-V1.mp4 --- Sanjay Minni On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
The voice in the background behaved differetly with different players on windows 10 - in "Films and TV" and "VLC player" it comes unltil you manually switch the audio channel (it shows 2 audio channels) - In Media player it works fine though i could not find 2 audio channels --- Sanjay Minni On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD-W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the reasoning for this.
cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
Tx for the report :) On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote:
The voice in the background behaved differetly with different players on windows 10 - in "Films and TV" and "VLC player" it comes unltil you manually switch the audio channel (it shows 2 audio channels) - In Media player it works fine though i could not find 2 audio channels
--- Sanjay Minni
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I played C019SD-W1-S1-EN-V1.mp4 and as well as the english voice, in the background I can still hear your original french voice. I'm curious the reasoning for this.
cheers -ben
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
Sanjay where did you get this file? Stef On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote:
There seems to be an issue with the english dubbed version of Week 5 lesson 4 - it has no content C019SD-W5-S4-EN-V1.mp4
--- Sanjay Minni
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if the new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
sorry mised your mail I got these files from the link in the message of your post on Oct 13 "I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/ Stef" http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/Videos-EN/MOOC%20WEEK%205/ and http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/Videos-EN/MOOC%20WEEK%205/MP4/ --- Sanjay Minni +91-9900-902902 On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Sanjay
where did you get this file?
Stef
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote:
There seems to be an issue with the english dubbed version of Week 5 lesson 4 - it has no content C019SD-W5-S4-EN-V1.mp4
--- Sanjay Minni
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Stephane Ducasse < stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm about to release the en versions. you can find them unofficially on http://www.stephaneducasse.eu/MOOC/
Stef
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Gour <gour@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stef,
I will ask one guy thursday and let you know.
Thanks a lot!
We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy french accents ;)
I did watch few of your Pharo-related presentations and, although not native, happily survived. :-)
Moreover, I'd say that your English is charming! At least, one is sure that the real human is speaking and not some "robot" put on auto-pilot, so if
the
new Mooc is going to be the same as the current/old one, I'd prefer to download the current files and watched them along with *.srt subtitles?
Iow. my point is that the accent is just one part of the talk/teaching, but the energy behind it is much more imporant - this is, my conviction, based on my own teaching experiences.
Sincerely, Gour
-- From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
I would love to. As soon as I finish my PhD (that has become my "anguished motto") I will have time for this community endeavors again. Cheers, Offray On 10/10/17 14:02, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something like, please don't show me anything other cultures, even if I just need to turn on captions and read(!), like most of us did to learn English by ourselves. Whenever I have the opportunity, I see movies in their native language and just add subtitles, to lost less in translation. Yes, English is the third most spread language and is good for intercultural communication, because is the most spread *second* language, but sadly, most English native speaker don't even bother about experience the minimum of other language and cultures, beyond the "tourist package" and even hear another language seems too much effort. Fortunately there is a minority of native English speakers that thinks different.
Thanks for the voice translation. It improves a course that was already good and totally doable with subtitles.
Keep the good work. Cheers,
Offray
On 10/10/17 08:05, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC:
https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6...
To which I responded:
https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4...
Some food for thought.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Tx I wish you the best for your phd. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
I would love to. As soon as I finish my PhD (that has become my "anguished motto") I will have time for this community endeavors again.
Cheers,
Offray
On 10/10/17 14:02, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something like, please don't show me anything other cultures, even if I just need to turn on captions and read(!), like most of us did to learn English by ourselves. Whenever I have the opportunity, I see movies in their native language and just add subtitles, to lost less in translation. Yes, English is the third most spread language and is good for intercultural communication, because is the most spread *second* language, but sadly, most English native speaker don't even bother about experience the minimum of other language and cultures, beyond the "tourist package" and even hear another language seems too much effort. Fortunately there is a minority of native English speakers that thinks different.
Thanks for the voice translation. It improves a course that was already good and totally doable with subtitles.
Keep the good work. Cheers,
Offray
On 10/10/17 08:05, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC:
https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6...
To which I responded:
https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-4...
Some food for thought.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Hello Stephane, I can help with the Spanish subtitles. You can send me a file with the text, if you have it. My french is basic so please send also the English fil, to double check. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Hello It would be super great :) the files are in the github repo https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoMooc/tree/master/Subtitles Stef On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Ricardo Pacheco <ricardo.pacheco.roldan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stephane, I can help with the Spanish subtitles. You can send me a file with the text, if you have it. My french is basic so please send also the English fil, to double check.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Great, I will have a look at them. I registered to participate in the MOOC starting on Oct 16, so look forward to contribute back a bit. Ricardo -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Superb! On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Ricardo Pacheco <ricardo.pacheco.roldan@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, I will have a look at them. I registered to participate in the MOOC starting on Oct 16, so look forward to contribute back a bit.
Ricardo
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
If you're considering video subtitling, nothing better that Amara: http://amara.org/ It has the easiest interface for video subtitling and easy collaboration built in (no need to learn DVCS --Git, Fossil) to collaborate. Cheers, Offray On 13/10/17 01:24, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
Hello
It would be super great :) the files are in the github repo https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoMooc/tree/master/Subtitles
Stef
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Ricardo Pacheco <ricardo.pacheco.roldan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stephane, I can help with the Spanish subtitles. You can send me a file with the text, if you have it. My french is basic so please send also the English fil, to double check.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
participants (11)
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Andrew Glynn -
Ben Coman -
Brad Selfridge -
Dimitris Chloupis -
Gour -
horrido -
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas -
Ricardo Pacheco -
Sanjay Minni -
Serge Stinckwich -
Stephane Ducasse