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[Pharo-project] Getting rid of the blinking cursor?
by Henrik Jegbjerg Hansen Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Is it possible to get rid of the blinking cursor? I prefer the non-blinking which is default on Squeak. Maybe there should be a preference setting for this? -- Henrik Jegbjerg Hansen

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11063
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

11063 ----- - Issue 1510: New setting implementation * a setting declaration is now implemented with a builder passed as argument * migration of several preferences * add Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings as first system settings user interface specific packages In order to browse current set of settings: SystemSettingBrowser open In the browser, cmd-b on selected row should open a class browser on the selected setting declaration method

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[Pharo-project] new settings slice
by Alain Plantec Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Hi again, SLICE-SettingsIntegration-2711 is in Inbox. Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings are new packages dedicated to the declaration of some system settings. As such, they are removable as System-Settings package is. ... -------------------------- * a setting declaration is now implemented with a builder passed as argument * migration of few preferences * add Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings as first system settings user interface specific packages In order to browse current set of settings: SystemSettingBrowser open In the browser, cmd-b on selected row should open a class browser on the selected setting declaration method --------------------------- Cheers Alain

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Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Thanks. speed up the system was always a concern to us now the font rendering takes time and we have all new machines so we do not feel the slugginess. Now this is important and in 1.1 we already got 15% speed increase for morphic. Stef On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:09 AM, neil butterworth wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Thanks for your reply :) >> >>> True Color 24 bit >> >> I have >> Display depth -> 32 >> >> then 24 looks strange to me. > > 24-bit is as reported by Windows Control Panel. I've changed this to 32 bit. > >> >> depth: bitsPerPixel >> (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: >> [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) >> ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32']. >> depth := bitsPerPixel >> >> Can you type >> Display depth > > This gives me 32. > >> >> and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? > > Makes no difference, I'm afraid :-( > >> We should keep an old machine around to test it. >> this is strange. >> Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow. >> Which browser are you using > > I've tried all the available browsers, and I've turned off all > eye-candy stuff like gradients. I don't think this is a browser issue. > The problem is if I click on any window (including transcript & > workspace) there is an appreciable lag beforethe window activates. It > seems posible that this is something in the mouse event processing, > rather than the display code. > >> Can you change the theme? >> using the preference pane? > > I've messed about with just about all possible settings. THis is not a > new problem BTW - a version of Pharo I tried about 6 months ago had > the same issues, but I assumed that they would get ironed out as time > went on - unfortunately, it seems not. > > Thanks for your help, anyway > > Neil Butterworth

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[Pharo-project] Pharo and db support
by Stephan Eggermont Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Doru wrote: >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in >both relational and in object databases. Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? Stephan

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[Pharo-project] Re: c.l.s "Pharo less responsive than Squeak?"
by csrabak＠bol.com.br Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Do you also see as these persons report it? http://groups.google.com.br/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/… -- Cesar Rabak

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Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Thanks for your reply :) >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit I have Display depth -> 32 then 24 looks strange to me. depth: bitsPerPixel (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32']. depth := bitsPerPixel Can you type Display depth and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. We should keep an old machine around to test it. this is strange. Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow. Which browser are you using Can you give a try to change it and use the system browser (to change click on the right icon on the window ... Choose new default menu) Can you change the theme? using the preference pane? Thanks Stef > > Neil Butterworth

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Nov. 26, 2009

Begin forwarded message: > From: neil butterworth <nbutterworth1953(a)googlemail.com> > Date: November 26, 2009 10:29:57 PM GMT+01:00 > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: about Pharo > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Neil > > Hello > >> >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit > >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. > > Neil Butterworth

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Nov. 26, 2009

Hi Neil what you report is strange. Can you let us know: - vm - OS - image version - your display depth Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. Now lot of us are on mac. Please note that you can forward this email to the newsgroup because I cannot post there. I never noticed a grow mention by the person which replied to you. If you want to have fast and supportive answers to your question send them to the pharo mailing-lists since we do not read news groups in general. Stef

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Nov. 26, 2009

Hi guys I published Rome packages from sophie-dev in PharoTaskForces. So that slowly we make sure that we can load and use it. Stef

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