Hi Neil what you report is strange. Can you let us know: - vm - OS - image version - your display depth Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. Now lot of us are on mac. Please note that you can forward this email to the newsgroup because I cannot post there. I never noticed a grow mention by the person which replied to you. If you want to have fast and supportive answers to your question send them to the pharo mailing-lists since we do not read news groups in general. Stef