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Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Thanks. speed up the system was always a concern to us now the font rendering takes time and we have all new machines so we do not feel the slugginess. Now this is important and in 1.1 we already got 15% speed increase for morphic. Stef On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:09 AM, neil butterworth wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Thanks for your reply :) >> >>> True Color 24 bit >> >> I have >> Display depth -> 32 >> >> then 24 looks strange to me. > > 24-bit is as reported by Windows Control Panel. I've changed this to 32 bit. > >> >> depth: bitsPerPixel >> (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: >> [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) >> ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32']. >> depth := bitsPerPixel >> >> Can you type >> Display depth > > This gives me 32. > >> >> and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? > > Makes no difference, I'm afraid :-( > >> We should keep an old machine around to test it. >> this is strange. >> Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow. >> Which browser are you using > > I've tried all the available browsers, and I've turned off all > eye-candy stuff like gradients. I don't think this is a browser issue. > The problem is if I click on any window (including transcript & > workspace) there is an appreciable lag beforethe window activates. It > seems posible that this is something in the mouse event processing, > rather than the display code. > >> Can you change the theme? >> using the preference pane? > > I've messed about with just about all possible settings. THis is not a > new problem BTW - a version of Pharo I tried about 6 months ago had > the same issues, but I assumed that they would get ironed out as time > went on - unfortunately, it seems not. > > Thanks for your help, anyway > > Neil Butterworth

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[Pharo-project] Pharo and db support
by Stephan Eggermont Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Doru wrote: >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in >both relational and in object databases. Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? Stephan

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[Pharo-project] Re: c.l.s "Pharo less responsive than Squeak?"
by csrabak＠bol.com.br Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Do you also see as these persons report it? http://groups.google.com.br/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/… -- Cesar Rabak

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Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Thanks for your reply :) >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit I have Display depth -> 32 then 24 looks strange to me. depth: bitsPerPixel (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32']. depth := bitsPerPixel Can you type Display depth and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. We should keep an old machine around to test it. this is strange. Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow. Which browser are you using Can you give a try to change it and use the system browser (to change click on the right icon on the window ... Choose new default menu) Can you change the theme? using the preference pane? Thanks Stef > > Neil Butterworth

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[Pharo-project] Fwd: about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Begin forwarded message: > From: neil butterworth <nbutterworth1953(a)googlemail.com> > Date: November 26, 2009 10:29:57 PM GMT+01:00 > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: about Pharo > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Neil > > Hello > >> >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit > >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. > > Neil Butterworth

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[Pharo-project] about Pharo
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Hi Neil what you report is strange. Can you let us know: - vm - OS - image version - your display depth Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. Now lot of us are on mac. Please note that you can forward this email to the newsgroup because I cannot post there. I never noticed a grow mention by the person which replied to you. If you want to have fast and supportive answers to your question send them to the pharo mailing-lists since we do not read news groups in general. Stef

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[Pharo-project] Published Rome from Sophie dev into PharoTaskForces
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Hi guys I published Rome packages from sophie-dev in PharoTaskForces. So that slowly we make sure that we can load and use it. Stef

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Nov. 26, 2009

Hi guys I published the URI package of Sophie in the PharoTaskForces. Now it seems to me that iteration protocol (allFileDo: ....) and creation protocols are missing (forceNewFileOn:.....) Stef

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11061
by Marcus Denker Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

11061 ----- Issue 1504: remove PasteUpMorph>>reportLocalAddress

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[Pharo-project] Reoganize categories by alphabetical order ?
by Frederic Pluquet Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Hello, How to reorganize system categories by alphabetical order ? FrÃ©d ---- FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Assistant http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet

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