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[Pharo-project] [ANN] ConfigurationOfTeachable
by Torsten Bergmann March 3, 2010

March 3, 2010

"Teachable" (see [1] and [2]) is now available via Metacello: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfTeachable'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfTeachable) project version: '1.0') load: 'all' Bye T. [1] http://astares.blogspot.com/2005/04/teaching-behavior.html [2] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2002-April/038279.ht… -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment fÃ¼r nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

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Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival
by Schwab,Wilhelm K March 3, 2010

March 3, 2010

I have never bought into "make Smalltalk more like <insertBuzzword> and the world will like us" because things don't work that way. The analogies to US politics are biting - without going into details, it does not work there either. The most recent "do it or else" was .Net. Before that, Java was the answer. Remember Object Linking and Embedding - the entire world was going to be components. DCOM is the answer, what's wrong with you? Fat clients, thin clients, Lotus Notes, VBA or bust!!! Now it's "The Cloud." Some of these things are actually useful for many tasks; most are good for _something_. If HTML 5 proves itself, we'll end up embracing it, but not because it will make people like us. People who want to find fault with anything that is not the latest hype-compliant technology will never run out of complaints to wave in our faces. The trick is to separate the truly worthy points from the talking points taken from glossy ads. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Eagle Offshore [mailto:eagleoffshore@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:42 PM To: Schwab,Wilhelm K Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival I meant to keep my last comment off list. My bad. This one is also off list. I'm not talking web apps. I think you missed that. I'm talking about a platform for writing desktop apps. It happens to use widgets implemented using html and css with logic in javascript, but its not terribly different from a smalltalk environment with its own widget kit. I think Dan was a little early with lively kernel, but I think if he updated it for HTML 5 he'd find the world quite a bit more receptive. On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:34 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > 'm not writing portable web apps, which is exactly my point: web technologies have their purposes and limitations, and attempts to use them as some type of intergalactic-fix-all is probably going to work out poorly.

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[Pharo-project] remove some unimplemented calls
by Pavel Krivanek March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

Hi, I published a patch that removes 35 unimplemented calls from Pharo #11240. see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2104 -- Pavel

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11240
by StÃ©phane Ducasse March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

11240 ----- - Issue 1793: Remove SqueakClipBoard. Thanks alain and pavel for fixing my mess. - Polymorph Fix for "compare to current version" in change sets having wrong left/right text. Micellaneous fixes, particularly layout issues. Themed menu item colours to help Hilaire with Sugar theme. - Obsolete reference in 11239. Thanks Pavel Stef

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[Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad
by Torsten Bergmann March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

If you have it running it would be nice if you add a screenshot and/or a photo of the device (while running Pharo) to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1931 Thx T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

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Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad
by David Li March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

Well, I have tried the Pharo-iPhone tree under 3.2 simulator. It works. I am working on making it work with iPad's native resolution. Due to the NDA of that dev kit, I can't really talk much here. Anyone interested in this, please contact me in private message. I do need help in figuring out the canvas drawing codes in the Pharo-iPhone. My goal is to get Scartch to run on this. ;) David

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[Pharo-project] Linux clipboard
by Pavel Krivanek March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

In Pharo 1.1 the clipboard doesn't work on Linux VM (because of fix of Issue 1793: Remove SqueakClipBoard). Alain replaced SqueakClipboard with ExternalClipboard as default OSPlatform clipboardClass. The ExternalClipboard class requires VM with ClipboardExtendedPlugin. The default clipboard class should be Clipboard. Cheers, -- Pavel

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[Pharo-project] obsolete classes in 11239
by Pavel Krivanek March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

There are some Undeclared and obsolete classes in the image #11239. This cleans it: Locale classPool at: #LocaleChangeListeners put: OrderedCollection new. SmalltalkImage current fixObsoleteReferences. Smalltalk cleanOutUndeclared. -- Pavel

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[Pharo-project] O2 now loads in Pharo Core 1.1
by Alexandre Bergel March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

I just wanted to announce this :-) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival
by Schwab,Wilhelm K March 2, 2010

March 2, 2010

First, I'm not using Squeak. Second, this is not the first time I've heard that xyz was going to wipe out Smalltalk's place in the world, and I doubt it will be the last. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Eagle Offshore [mailto:eagleoffshore@mac.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:09 AM To: Schwab,Wilhelm K Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival Then what are you doing with Squeak? :-) The browsers support offline development with local databases in HTML 5. This is here, now. They will replace squeak's mission in about another three years. Probably less. On Feb 28, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > There is the further concern about the browser. It wastes screen space (which is at a premium) and adds weight and distracting functionality. There is something to be said for the a fat client app that does what it needs to do and nothing else. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > Eagle Offshore > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:23 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival > > I wouldn't be so sure. > > http://html5demos.com/ > http://jqtouch.com/ > > On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> there is no way in hell that HTML+CSS+JavaScript is going to keep up > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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