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Re: [Pharo-project] Starting with 1.2.1 - Slow installing packages
by Marcus Denker July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

On Jul 2, 2011, at 7:50 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Yes this was reported in the mailing-list because stupidly we changed the api of transcript. > normally this is juste the postload action. . we should add the method for "Transcript open"... -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] Starting with 1.2.1 - Slow installing packages
by Giuseppe Luigi Punzi July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

Hi all, I downloaded 1.2.1, and I'm trying to install some packages to start a new project. The problem I found for the moment, is, thath is taking a lot of time to install. For example, I did the ConfigurationOfO2 and this was 25 minutes ago. Is this normal? I can see pharo.exe is consuming 35MB of RAM. Probably is a limit, and I can increase it? I suppose thath this is the bottleneck. Thanks.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Starting with 1.2.1 - Slow installing packages
by Marcus Denker July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

On Jul 2, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote: > El 02/07/2011 16:13, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >> consider to use 1.3 because we did some little fixes there and there. >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotThree >> Stef >> >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote: >> > Hi Stephane, > > This? https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28638/Pharo-1.3-13257.zip > Better the integration server, as we are at 13281 already... I will update the files on gforge. https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.3/ Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14024
by Marcus Denker July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

14024 ----- Issue 4489: Obsolete classes in 1.4 due to Theme rename http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4489 Issue 4487: Set Theme back to Pharo Theme http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4487 -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Starting with 1.2.1 - Slow installing packages
by Marcus Denker July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote: > Hi all, > > I downloaded 1.2.1, and I'm trying to install some packages to start a new project. The problem I found for the moment, is, thath is taking a lot of time to install. > > For example, I did the ConfigurationOfO2 and this was 25 minutes ago. > O2 is *not* compatible with 1.2, it has been abandoned and is not developped anymore. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14023
by Marcus Denker July 2, 2011

July 2, 2011

14023 ----- Issue 4457: Polymorph-ToolBuilder package need to be removed http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4457 Issue 4479: We should rename GLMUITheme into Pharo Theme http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4479 -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] stress tester with Pharo
by laurent laffont July 1, 2011

July 1, 2011

Hi, is it possible to create jMeter-like tests with Pharo (and Cog ?) - running a massive number of (native ?) threads that send HTTP requests ? Laurent

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[Pharo-project] Cog VM continuous integration: update
by Igor Stasenko July 1, 2011

July 1, 2011

Hello, all. Last few weeks i concentrated my efforts to make Windows slave working and merge the updates made by Eliot and synchronize source with svn. It took quite a bit time to set up windows slaves (multiple people were involved). I don't want to go into details, but there was some technical issues, as well as complications with connecting windows with non-windows, firewalls etc etc. At least now it is working and we can build windows VMs. A merge also costed me quite of a time, since Andreas reorganized sources and merged cross and win32 plugin codebase with squeak branch using of svn:externals. And while i, no doubt, welcome the merge, i had to spend time learning how i could mirror that on git. The only thing which i can say after this: git is superior tool. Its a pity that i had to waste my time fighting with svn, while its only a question of couple of minutes for developer(s) to clone sources from git and start using it instead of svn. So, after couple of hiccups and show-stoppers now everything more-or less run smoothly on Hudson, (except from stack vm on win32). Here the list of builds which currently available for download. Mac: Cog/Mac Carbon https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Cog%20Mac%20Carbon/ Stack VM/ Mac Carbon https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/StackVM%20Mac%20Carbon/ Linux: Cog https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Cog%20Unix/ Stack VM/ Unix https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Stack%20VM%20Unix/ A new kid on the block Windows: Cog/Win32 https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/CogWin32/ (the Stack VM has linking problems which is yet to be solved, see my post on vm-dev list) To download VM just follow one of the links and then pick the .zip with VM. As for Mac Cocoa VMs: they are broken for now, because yet unmerged. Hopefully Esteban will find time to update his branch soon. The next step is to run tests for built VMs. For this i planning to create a specialized package, which will contain code snippets for loading & firing off various tests, because currently all tests are a bunch of .st scripts, and managing files over dozen of networked machines is not fun. So, i think i will just take these snippets and put them into single MC package, so then it could be managed much easier. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] **Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks
by Tudor Girba July 1, 2011

July 1, 2011

Hi, The idea of Pharo Tasks is not to get things rigid and to stop the individuals from contributing. This should continue to happen. Instead, the idea is to start acknowledging that Pharo has became larger, and that the integration and drive of individual contributions has more dimensions that can be handled by the core group alone. So, the Pharo Task Force is a mechanism for teams to form around some larger topics. Like I said beforetime, I want to work on the IDE. This is a topic that is larger than one person can and should do. But, it is also a topic that requires integration of contributions, and it won't work by simply doing a union of choices. Just like now the Core team relentlessly cleans up the language and infrastructure, so should the IDE deserve a similar approach to get it strong and reinvented. People should know that this project exists and that they can contribute in a more organized way. This won't work by force. But, if someone wants to build/lead/integrate a project like this, I think it can work nicely. Cheers, Doru On 1 Jul 2011, at 13:08, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Are you trying to repeat experience of Squeak teams? > I can remind you that they are never worked and failed in the end. > > And i think that problem is that its hard to coordinate people which > are located around the globe and their main tasks are completely > different. > Another reason is that you cannot enforce any kind of responsibility > for delaying or not delivering , because we're talking about > enthusiasts. > > I believe that individual people with own vision and own, personal, > agenda could do much more. > If someone would like to voluntary coordinate some activities, i am > all for it. Now this means that given person should have plan in his > head and stick with it, > and keep an eye, ask around, communicate, and of course try coordinate people. > But is it really need to be formalized like that? > > We, as community could discuss the agendas, and then a concrete steps > to implement it. Now, its not really matters who will do it, as long > as there enough people interested in helping > with it. > And its completely pointless to form groups of individuals, only to be > listed as a group member on site and doing nothing (for whatever > objective reason). > > So, the right questions about any improvement, which we would like to > see in future is: > - do/why we need that > - who can do that > > if both of these questions can be answered positively, then it is only > a matter of time for new feature to appear. > And to my opinion, putting any kind of formality around it is > completely orthogonal to what will happen in reality. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

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[Pharo-project] Please test Pharo 1.3!
by Marcus Denker July 1, 2011

July 1, 2011

Please test Pharo 1.3! There is no magic.. what is now here: https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.3/ Will be the release. Issues fixed until the released are just those that will be detected and fixed. There is no magic. For those who only run released software: Version Number is 1.3. Consider this released. There will be no RC. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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