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[ANN] Pharo community addon for world menu
by Torsten Bergmann July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi, I added a small utility called "Community" to the catalog that allows you to quickly access/browse the most prominent Pharo pages (Homepage, Discord, Mailinglist Archive, CI Server, Books page, Association, Consortium, STHub) right from the world menu. Also in Spotter. Example: ======== Load Community from Pharo catalog. As the menu entries are mirrored also in Spotter you can easily open Spotter, key in "Discord" hit enter and the local web browser should open the Pharo chat. Attached is a screenshot. Maybe this is useful for others too. Have fun T.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6.0 for linux and PharoV60.sources location
by Andreas Sunardi July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi Stef, Thank you for the clarification. It helps to know whether something is intended or not. I appreciate very much that you took time to response and clarify. And congratulation to Clement :) On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Marc Hanisch via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marc Hanisch <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:20:45 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6.0 for linux and PharoV60.sources location > Hi Stephane, > > thanks for that kind reply! No problem! > I'm unfortunately not too deep into Pharo, but maybe I can help with > the packaging / build process for the Linux downloads (at least my > Linux knowledge is far better than my Pharo knowledge ;-))? > > Best regards, > Marc > > 2017-07-05 8:00 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi marc > > > > We are a bit under water in this moment making sure that we can handle > > pull requests for Pharo 70. > > I'm sure that it will get better in the future. > > Esteban is moving, we got many articles to send, clement hand it in its > phd :). > > And many more. > > > > So we are sorry about the support. > > > > Stef > > > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Marc Hanisch via Pharo-users > > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Marc Hanisch <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> > >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > >> Cc: > >> Bcc: > >> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 13:14:52 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6.0 for linux and PharoV60.sources > location > >> Hi Andreas, > >> > >> Yes, that was me. Unfortunately I did not get an answer. I solved this > by copying the sources file into the location where Pharo is looking for it. > >> > >> Due to the missing sources file, variables and arguments got renamed > automatically... > >> > >> I still don't understand why the sources file is spread 3 or 4 times > across the directory structure... > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Marc > >> > >> Am 03.07.2017 12:16 schrieb "Andreas Sunardi" <a.sunardi(a)gmail.com>: > >>> > >>> Pardon me if this has been discussed before. I seem to recall somebody > ran into this issue or related to this, but I don't remember what the > solution was, if there was any. > >>> > >>> The linux Pharo 6 download package from Pharo web site has different > VM directory structure than Pharo 5. The PharoV60.sources file is not > located in the same directory as the VM binary. As a result, if user has > image + changes files in another directory, Pharo always gives notification > that the sources file is not found. This is not so with the Pharo 5. > >>> > >>> In most cases, it's just a notification, but in the past I've run into > an error in debugging session when I tried to look into a method because of > missing sources file. > >>> > >>> Can this be corrected or is it expected for the user to manage sources > file where about? I'm hoping a correction or clarification would at least > benefit new comers. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Andreas > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > >

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PharoCloud Ephemeric Cloud updates
by mikefilonov July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi, Some updates on Ephemeric Cloud development: 1) Ephemeric cloud moved from OVH to Digital Ocean. In theory this opens an opportunity to run instances in different datacenter regions of DO. I think about adding a node in Frankfurt. Any thoughts? 2) Added support for Pharo 6 (32 bits only for now). Pharo 6 is particularly slow in read-only environments, so... now environment is writable. All changes are written to memory and reset on restart. Kind of works, Pharo 6 images are starting in 1-2 seconds (after initial load which may take for like 10 seconds). I migrated all my apps to the Pharo 6 and seems to work fine now. 3) Added custom ports support. Now it is possible to expose any additional ports needed for your Image. If you set an integer array to property "customPorts" system will expose and forward to these ports on start of the instance. Public addresses of the exposed ports are available on "mappedPorts". Note that public addresses are changed every start (and not accessible on stopped Images). 4) As result now you can remotely connect, debug and control Images running at PharoCloud using PharmIDE: http://docs.swarm.pharocloud.com/article/remote_debug This is so awesome! Thank you to Denis for his great work on PharmIDE: http://dionisiydk.blogspot.com/2017/01/pharmide-pharo-remote-ide-to-develop… Please try it and tell me if it works for you. 5) Completely new http gate for ephemerics. Instead of golang version now it is run on nginx + lua. This allows virtually all features to work. Like websockets: http://aidaweb.swarm.pharocloud.com/?view=realtime 6) Optimized Image upload should give pretty good boost in sending new Images to cloud. Just a reminder: to get free access to the cloud you can use your Pharo Association account or register at pharocloud main site. You can log in here: https://www.pharocloud.com/manager Docs can be found here: http://docs.swarm.pharocloud.com/ Looking forward for feedback. Cheers, Mike -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoCloud-Ephemeric-Cloud-updates-tp4953360.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Ideas wanted: "Patterns to sustain feedback loops"
by Marcus Denker July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi, I want to do a third talk at ESUG as the âpart 3â of the feedback loop series.. The first parts where: 1. Nomads do not build Cathedrals: https://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/2014-esugcathedral 2. Perfection and Feedback Loops: Why worse is better. https://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/perfection-feedback-loops-or-why-wo… The idea for part 3 is to do something along the lines of âpatterns to enable feedback loopsâ, a more practical view on what one should be doing (or not be doing) to enable and sustain a project as a feedback loop. - both things we do and those we should - things that we do wrong / anti patterns - technical as well as social (communityâ¦) - examples you have seen in the real world The idea is not to follow a formal patterns language, it will be informalâ¦ so if you have any ideas, please send a private mail to me. Marcus

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[ANN] association.pharo.org now on AWS
by Marcus Denker July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi, I just changed the DNS entry for https://association.pharo.org It now runs on Amazon AWS, this should make it faster and more reliable than in the past. Marcus

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6.0 for linux and PharoV60.sources location
by Stephane Ducasse July 5, 2017

July 5, 2017

Hi marc We are a bit under water in this moment making sure that we can handle pull requests for Pharo 70. I'm sure that it will get better in the future. Esteban is moving, we got many articles to send, clement hand it in its phd :). And many more. So we are sorry about the support. Stef On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Marc Hanisch via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marc Hanisch <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 13:14:52 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6.0 for linux and PharoV60.sources location > Hi Andreas, > > Yes, that was me. Unfortunately I did not get an answer. I solved this by copying the sources file into the location where Pharo is looking for it. > > Due to the missing sources file, variables and arguments got renamed automatically... > > I still don't understand why the sources file is spread 3 or 4 times across the directory structure... > > Best regards, > Marc > > Am 03.07.2017 12:16 schrieb "Andreas Sunardi" <a.sunardi(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Pardon me if this has been discussed before. I seem to recall somebody ran into this issue or related to this, but I don't remember what the solution was, if there was any. >> >> The linux Pharo 6 download package from Pharo web site has different VM directory structure than Pharo 5. The PharoV60.sources file is not located in the same directory as the VM binary. As a result, if user has image + changes files in another directory, Pharo always gives notification that the sources file is not found. This is not so with the Pharo 5. >> >> In most cases, it's just a notification, but in the past I've run into an error in debugging session when I tried to look into a method because of missing sources file. >> >> Can this be corrected or is it expected for the user to manage sources file where about? I'm hoping a correction or clarification would at least benefit new comers. >> >> -- >> Andreas >> >> >

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The method Form>>rotateBy: slows down if applied several times to the same form
by Matteo July 4, 2017

July 4, 2017

Dears, applying the method "Form>>rotateBy:" several times, to the same form, the system slows down dramatically, even imposing a 0Â° rotation. Below you can find a code snippet, to be run on the playground: |aForm | aForm:= ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: 'pharo.png'. 10 timesRepeat: [ aForm := aForm rotateBy:90 ]. Increasing the number of repetitions the delay get worse. Does someone else get the same issue? Is there something wrong on my code, or in the way I'm using the method? The test has been launched in a Pharo 6.0 image, Latest update: #60499, under Linux 64bit. For this question I opened the FogBugz case nÂ°20216 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20216#BugEvent.190469 Thanks, Matteo

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Pharo command line, stdout and integrating with other tools?
by Tim Mackinnon July 4, 2017

July 4, 2017

Hi - I've been playing with using Pharo with Aws lambda and have got an image to launch in that environment. However now I need to better integrate Pharo with its calling environment - and I know there was a concerted effort to make Pharo play better which I should be able to leverage. So I am calling Pharo from a NodeJS wrapper (the suggested aws method for integrating alternative languages like Ruby, Go etc). I got this to work - however as an observation, it is rather awkward passing parameters to Pharo using the "eval" mechanism as other languages and environments frequently use the " character (particularly with Json) and this causes Pharo to fail if you don't \" this. I'm wondering if others have noted this and whether we can do this better somehow? For now a little nodeJS regex fu gets me past it. However my next question is about passing information back to the calling application. I can see that there is a stdout method on Fikestream that I can write to (great), however in my ./pharo eval call, which sends to a class method doing this - it also returns the result of that method or yourself? I guess this convention is great for the "eval 42 factorial" example but not so great of you just want to return some Json via stdout in a format of the calling environment? Is there something simple trick I can do to stop this extra result and just let me use stdout myself? Or do I have to return a Smalltalk string and then regex convert it to a new format in my calling language? I'm wondering if others have done this, or if anyone has some advice? It feels like a usecase that we might be able to do better somehow? Tim Sent from my iPhone

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Running a headless server
by sergio ruiz July 4, 2017

July 4, 2017

Hi, all.. I have started looking at the zeroconf scripts, and i think i have most of this figured out..Â I just have a few questions, to make sure I am doing this correctly. In order to run the current image headless, should I just do something like: ./pharo Pharo.image âno-quit & I can load up my project, but how can i get the latest updates to the project? ./pharo Pharo.image update seems like it just updates the VM.. If i run something like this: ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save --no-quit "|server| server := PrintBotServer serveOn: 8080." a PrintBotServer I would expect that it would save my image.. Â but when i hit ^c, and restart it like so: ./pharo Pharo.image the printbot doesnât exist anymore.Â any idea how to get this to work correctly? Thanks! ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key:Â http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessageÂ BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

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Syntax colouring in Glamouros script presentation
by Hilaire July 3, 2017

July 3, 2017

Hi, Is it possible to have colouring in PharoMethod presenter. When I use it from my method presenter in the DrGeoScrpitBrowser it is not colouring. Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

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