November 2015 - Pharo-users

Democracy attacked...
by stepharo Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

Hi guys I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably from these fanatics ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a rock concert and restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as birds. I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do not do anything I doubt it will not expand. And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in fact. Democracy and our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we have to react. Stef

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typers in Pharo
by Peter UhnÃ¡k Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

Hi, apparently neither RoelTyper nor RefactoryTyper is capable of doing elementary type inference for methods, such as [[[ cls := Object subclass: #Something. cls compile: 'method ^ 1'. typer := RBRefactoryTyper new. typer guessTypeFromAssignment: (Something>>#method) ast body "Object " all := (TypeCollector typeTmpsIn: (Something>>#method) ofClass: Something) asDictionary. (all at: '^') types "an OrderedCollection(Object)" ]]] Of course both of those tools have different objectives so I am not surprised. Are there however other options? Roel Typer paper makes mention of Chuck, but that seems to be for Squeak only. As for RoelTyper I've also encountered very strange behavior: [[[ cls := Object subclass: #Something. cls compile: 'method ^ 1'. all := TypeCollector typeTmpsIn: (Something>>#method) ofClass: Something. all at: '^' ifAbsent: [ 'Not Found' ]. "'Not Found'" all asDictionary at: '^' "ExtractedType: Sends: {} Assignments: {} ". all associations detect: [ :pair | pair key = '^' ] "'^'->ExtractedType: Sends: {} Assignments: {} " ]]] Why does the first #at: fail if the second and especially third succeeds? My debugging lead me to IdentityDictionary>>#scanFor: but I don't know why that method is written in such a way so I stopped there. Thanks, Peter

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Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world
by abdelghani ALIDRA Nov. 15, 2015

Nov. 15, 2015

I more or less agree with you Robert.It partially relies on Muslims to fight against those terrorists. This is exactly what we did in Algeria in the 90's and today this is still happening in Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But unfortunately they are moving their battlefield to the rest of the world. Imams are notÂ infallible, but the common sense of people is and I believe it should be trusted. Abdelghani Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:19:43 -0500 From: Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world Message-ID: <5648B09F.8010608(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" It is so very sad. Sad that it was done and sad that it can be done. There is no real way to stop them or it would end our open societies. They must decide not to kill innocent people. The only ones who can get them to decide that is complete, global and total condemnation from the Ummah. Unfortunately, there are high numbers of Imams who issue Fatwas in support. And the majority of the Ummah are too scared to object. For instance, a top Jordanian Salafi Sheikh stated it was permissible to kill Israeli women and children. Oh, really? If we can't trust Imams to promote non-violence and the Ummah is required to step up, it all rests on the Mu'minoon picking up weapons against these Quranic terrorists and actively sending these Munafiqoon to Jahannam. Peace to Paris, Robert On 11/15/2015 04:23 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Indeed, This is a very sad day. > I sincerly sympathize with people of France. > In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much > more unfortunately, may you be preserved) > But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I > am quite sure it will. > > I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. > They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first > victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and > unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if > nothing is done to stop them. > > > > Abdelghani > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>, Any question >Â Â about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... > Message-ID: <5646DF1C.5030103(a)free.fr <mailto:5646DF1C.5030103@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi guys > > I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably > from these fanatics > ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a > rock concert and > restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as > birds. > I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do > not do anything > I doubt it will not expand. > > And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in > fact. Democracy and > our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we > have to react. > > Stef > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world > Message-ID: <5646E0F6.8060007(a)free.fr <mailto:5646E0F6.8060007@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. > To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a > dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot > expect much. > > I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it > would be terrible in addition. > Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. > And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact > this is a war. > When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids > listen music they will go to hell. > > > I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that > can destroy the oldest libraries > because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours > from algeria, marocco. > Now we pay the price and it will continue. > > Stef > > Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > > about the future of human kind. > > > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > > > Hern?n > > > > > >

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Very sad day for the world
by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand Nov. 15, 2015

Nov. 15, 2015

Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened about the future of human kind. Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. HernÃ¡n

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Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world
by abdelghani ALIDRA Nov. 15, 2015

Nov. 15, 2015

Indeed, This is a very sad day.I sincerly sympathize with people of France.In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much more unfortunately, may you be preserved)But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I am quite sure it will.Â I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us.Â They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if nothing is done to stop them. Abdelghani Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>,Â Â Â Any question Â Â Â about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... Message-ID: <5646DF1C.5030103(a)free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi guys I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably from these fanatics ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a rock concert and restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as birds. I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do not do anything I doubt it will not expand. And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in fact. Democracy and our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we have to react. Stef ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world Message-ID: <5646E0F6.8060007(a)free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot expect much. I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it would be terrible in addition. Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact this is a war. When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids listen music they will go to hell. I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that can destroy the oldest libraries because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours from algeria, marocco. Now we pay the price and it will continue. Stef Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > Hern?n >

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EPUB anyone
by Torsten Bergmann Nov. 13, 2015

Nov. 13, 2015

Hi Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an EPUB exporter for Pillar. Status/Plans? Thanks for an update Bye T.

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Transcrip Show: in a loop
by abdelghani ALIDRA Nov. 13, 2015

Nov. 13, 2015

Hi all, In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ; 10 timesRepeat:[Â Â aLongComputation. Â Â Transcript show: 'some message'. Â Â ] The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self haltIs this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one? Thanks Abdelghani

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FileDialog from Spec
by Jeff Gray Nov. 13, 2015

Nov. 13, 2015

In Pharo 4. I'm writing a ui in spec and I want to be able to select and open a file on a button click. I can see one example in polymorph but I don't know if that can be used from spec. Or am I missing something obvious? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FileDialog-from-Spec-tp4860608.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Smalltalks video recordings?
by Stephan Eggermont Nov. 13, 2015

Nov. 13, 2015

Looking at the tweet stream of #Smalltalks2015, I wonder if #Smalltalks2015 is being recorded? Are there already slides available? Stephan

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Changing playground and monticello shortcuts
by Torsten Bergmann Nov. 12, 2015

Nov. 12, 2015

>People are saying that they do not want to have the Catalog Projects displayed by default Why do you generalize that people wants to have them "not displayed"? It's for people with a slow connection and they lament about the slowdown - not the functionality. For this group it feels slow when opening Spotter - especially when the JSON rertrieved anytime you open it. As I said in the worst case one could put: CatalogSettings displayCatalogProjectsInSpotter: false. into the startup script or change in settings browser if one works on a really slow connection. This is already in latest Pharo image of today. >Another option is to provide an intermediary object. For example, how would it be if we would dive in the Catalog Browser object from the Menu >category and be able to search for projects? A possible solution yes - but I dislike that it would again hide the available projects in yet another navigation downpath/sidepath of spotter that one must know and type in advance. Wasn't the idea of Spotter to "just type" without having to know too much context? I think a cache for the catalog projects for the spotter search (that is invalidated at image startup) could solve the problem: When Spotter opens the FIRST time the projects are retrieved, nonetheless all the other items are already displayed. So the catalog projects appear lazy when retrieved (as it is now). For any following search the quick cache projects can be used without slowdowns. The server side of Catalog only updates each 24 hours anyway - so the contents is usually valid for the image session. If there are still people left who (due to a real slow connection) find this initial one-time retrieval annoying then they can disable it as described above. Nonetheless we get really offtopic from the original subject of this thread... Thanks T.

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