Hi all, In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ; 10 timesRepeat:[Â Â aLongComputation. Â Â Transcript show: 'some message'. Â Â ] The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self haltIs this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one? Thanks Abdelghani
Hi, For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time. About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing? Vincent De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop Hi all, In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ; 10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ] The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one? Thanks Abdelghani ________________________________ Ce message et les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et réservés à l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut également être protégé par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur et de le détruire. L'intégrité du message ne pouvant être assurée sur Internet, la responsabilité de Worldline ne pourra être recherchée quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expéditeur ne donne aucune garantie à cet égard et sa responsabilité ne saurait être recherchée pour tout dommage résultant d'un virus transmis. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.
Thanks Vincent,  flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench. Abdelghani De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> à: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop #yiv8061250181 #yiv8061250181 -- _filtered #yiv8061250181 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8061250181 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8061250181 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8061250181 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv8061250181 #yiv8061250181 p.yiv8061250181MsoNormal, #yiv8061250181 li.yiv8061250181MsoNormal, #yiv8061250181 div.yiv8061250181MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv8061250181 a:link, #yiv8061250181 span.yiv8061250181MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8061250181 a:visited, #yiv8061250181 span.yiv8061250181MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8061250181 span.yiv8061250181EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv8061250181 .yiv8061250181MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv8061250181 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}#yiv8061250181 div.yiv8061250181WordSection1 {}#yiv8061250181 Hi,  For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench  It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time.  About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing?  Vincent  De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org]De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop  Hi all,  In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;  10 timesRepeat:[   aLongComputation.   Transcript show: 'some message'.   ]  The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?  Thanks  Abdelghani Ce message et les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et réservés à l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut également être protégé par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur et de le détruire. L'intégrité du message ne pouvant être assurée sur Internet, la responsabilité de Worldline ne pourra être recherchée quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expéditeur ne donne aucune garantie à cet égard et sa responsabilité ne saurait être recherchée pour tout dommage résultant d'un virus transmis. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.
Hi You could fork a thread which will free up the UI thread. e.g. [ 10 timesRepeat: [ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message' ] ] fork Regards Carlo On 13 Nov 2015, at 12:06 PM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> wrote: Thanks Vincent, flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench. Abdelghani De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> à : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop Hi, For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time. About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing? Vincent De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop Hi all, In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ; 10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ] The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one? Thanks Abdelghani Ce message et les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et réservés à l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut également être protégé par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur et de le détruire. L'intégrité du message ne pouvant être assurée sur Internet, la responsabilité de Worldline ne pourra être recherchée quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expéditeur ne donne aucune garantie à cet égard et sa responsabilité ne saurait être recherchée pour tout dommage résultant d'un virus transmis. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.
Hi! I understand your concern. However, there are better way of doing the benchmarking. Just inspect the following expression: (1 to: 10) collect: [:i | [ aLongComputation ] timeToRun ] You can then easily graph the number, do some average⦠Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:06 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Thanks Vincent,
flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench.
Abdelghani
De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> à : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi,
For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench
It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time.
About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing?
Vincent
De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi all,
In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;
10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ]
The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?
Thanks
Abdelghani
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For the transcript issue, we have a bug entry: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15515/Transcript-does-not-show-immediate-r...
On 13 Nov 2015, at 10:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi!
I understand your concern. However, there are better way of doing the benchmarking. Just inspect the following expression: (1 to: 10) collect: [:i | [ aLongComputation ] timeToRun ]
You can then easily graph the number, do some averageâ¦
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:06 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr <mailto:alidrandco@yahoo.fr>> wrote:
Thanks Vincent,
flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench.
Abdelghani
De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com <mailto:vincent.blondeau@worldline.com>> à : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr <mailto:alidrandco@yahoo.fr>>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi,
For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench
It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time.
About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing?
Vincent
De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi all,
In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;
10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ]
The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?
Thanks
Abdelghani
Ce message et les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et réservés à l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut également être protégé par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur et de le détruire. L'intégrité du message ne pouvant être assurée sur Internet, la responsabilité de Worldline ne pourra être recherchée quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expéditeur ne donne aucune garantie à cet égard et sa responsabilité ne saurait être recherchée pour tout dommage résultant d'un virus transmis.
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On 13 Nov 2015, at 14:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi!
I understand your concern. However, there are better way of doing the benchmarking. Just inspect the following expression: (1 to: 10) collect: [:i | [ aLongComputation ] timeToRun ]
You can then easily graph the number, do some averageâ¦
Or even [ 1234 factorial ] benchFor: 2 seconds which gives you a nice BenchmarkResult object back
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:06 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Thanks Vincent,
flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench.
Abdelghani
De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> à : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi,
For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench
It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time.
About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing?
Vincent
De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi all,
In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;
10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ]
The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?
Thanks
Abdelghani
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Yes, the benchmark object is a nice idea. I just did not know about it Thanks to all  Abdelghani. De : Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> à: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Cc : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 14h32 Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
On 13 Nov 2015, at 14:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi!
I understand your concern. However, there are better way of doing the benchmarking. Just inspect the following expression: (1 to: 10) collect: [:i | [ aLongComputation ] timeToRun ]
You can then easily graph the number, do some averageâ¦
Or even [ 1234 factorial ] benchFor: 2 seconds which gives you a nice BenchmarkResult object back
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:06 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Thanks Vincent,
 flush does not seem to work but I think I am going to use bench.
Abdelghani
De : Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> à : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10h37 Objet : RE: [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop
Hi,  For benchmarking, you should do : [ aLongComputation] bench  It is simpler that to write on Transcript the execution time.  About the writing of the messages on Transcript, that is a normal behavior. Maybe you should try âTranscript flushâ to force the message writing?  Vincent  De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de abdelghani ALIDRA Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 10:21 à : pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Objet : [Pharo-users] Transcrip Show: in a loop Â
Hi all,  In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;  10 timesRepeat:[   aLongComputation.   Transcript show: 'some message'.   ]  The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?  Thanks  Abdelghani
Ce message et les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et réservés à l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut également être protégé par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur et de le détruire. L'intégrité du message ne pouvant être assurée sur Internet, la responsabilité de Worldline ne pourra être recherchée quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expéditeur ne donne aucune garantie à cet égard et sa responsabilité ne saurait être recherchée pour tout dommage résultant d'un virus transmis.
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On 13 Nov 2015, at 10:20, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
In order to monitor my program performance, I am using Transcrip>>show as follows ;
10 timesRepeat:[ aLongComputation. Transcript show: 'some message'. ]
The thing is that the messages are not shown one after another but all together after the loop is finished, unless I put a ... self halt Is this behavior normal? is there any way to make the messages come one by one?
That happens because your computation executes in the UI thread (i.e. the thread that is doing the drawing), only after everything is done there is time to draw on the screen.
Thanks
Abdelghani
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