November 2015 - Pharo-users

Is there a way to disable code critic ?
by Dimitris Chloupis Nov. 8, 2015

Nov. 8, 2015

Code critic is malfunctioning in my image as i mention in pharo-dev thread, I want to disable it but I could not find it in the Settings because my problems with it have been getting much worse as it throws MNUs even for mouse clicks. How may I do this ?

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Smalltalk Meetup in ZÃ¼rich: Nov 10, 2015
by Joachim Tuchel Nov. 8, 2015

Nov. 8, 2015

Dear Smalltalk fans in the ZÃ¼rich area, if you happen to have a free slot in your calendars for November 10th, 2015 (I guess 19:30 will be a good time to start), I have something for you: We would like to get together with Smalltalkers of all flavors to chat about the latest news, tools and projects at a restaurant near Bahnhof HardbrÃ¼cke, like we did several times in 2014. I think it's time to catch up and I know Peter, Philippe and Michal feel the same. So please send me a note and let me know if you'd like to join us for an evening of Smalltalk... I'll reserve a table and let you know exactly where we meet. If you are not in the ZÃ¼rich area but don't mind travelling to meet us, feel free to come! Hope to see you soon in ZÃ¼rich! Joachim

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 31, Issue 14
by Romy Van Nov. 7, 2015

Nov. 7, 2015

Hi, I'm Koami from Lome. I'm happy to be with You. I need Garage Documentation for one of my test Application. Thank's for your help. Bye... 2015-11-07 6:13 UTC, pharo-users-request(a)lists.pharo.org <pharo-users-request(a)lists.pharo.org>: > Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to > pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pharo-users-request(a)lists.pharo.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pharo-users-owner(a)lists.pharo.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pharos-Book (Sebastian Heidbrink) > 2. Re: Pharos-Book (Sebastian Heidbrink) > 3. Re: Trying to understand OSProcess on MacOS Yosemite > (David T. Lewis) > 4. Re: Documentations for Garage (stepharo) > 5. Re: Trying to understand OSProcess on MacOS Yosemite > (John Pfersich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:40:47 -0800 > From: Sebastian Heidbrink <sheidev(a)yahoo.de> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Pharos-Book > Message-ID: <563CE61F.7050902(a)yahoo.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi! > > Is there a CI server somewhere that currently builds the PharOS-Book? > > Or is there a place where the last built is available for download? > > Cheers! > Sebastian > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:44:13 -0800 > From: Sebastian Heidbrink <sheidev(a)yahoo.de> > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharos-Book > Message-ID: <563CE6ED.4030201(a)yahoo.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Actually before somebody expects a typo, I mean > > https://github.com/CARMinesDouai/PhaROS-Book > > > > On 2015-11-06 9:40 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Is there a CI server somewhere that currently builds the PharOS-Book? >> >> Or is there a place where the last built is available for download? >> >> Cheers! >> Sebastian >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:01:39 -0500 (EST) > From: "David T. Lewis" <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> > To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Trying to understand OSProcess on MacOS > Yosemite > Message-ID: <35691.136.2.1.102.1446832899.squirrel(a)webmail.msen.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Yes, that is normal. You are reading the output stream, and after it has > been read (up to EOF) it will be empty. > > Glad it is working for you now :-) > > Dave > >> additionally if inspect output a second time , the stdout string is gone, >> so maybe it flushes / deletes it ? is this normal ? >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> looks like a vm problem after instruction of Thierry instead of >>> >>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/50+vmLatest | bash >>> >>> I did >>> >>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/50+vm | bash >>> >>> and now it works fine I can see the output with an inspection. >>> >>> Looks like something changed in the vm that broke this. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:23 AM Dimitris Chloupis >>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> good to know I am not the only one with this problem :) so how may I >>>> help >>>> solving this problem ? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:11 AM john pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I tested what I posted on a fresh Pharo 4.0 image on OSX 10.10 >>>>> (Yosemite) so it sounds like something's wrong in the trunk. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis < >>>>> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It says I am using Cog 4.3.3 >>>>>> >>>>>> I also used the code of John pfersich >>>>>> >>>>>> p :=(PipeableOSProcess waitForCommand: 'ls') . >>>>>> p output. >>>>>> >>>>>> and it still returns an empty string while the process is >>>>>> >>>>>> "a PipeableOSProcess on an ExternalUnixOSProcess with pid 769 on >>>>>> /bin/sh (complete, normal termination with status 0)" >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried debugging but it froze the image with a >>>>>> >>>>>> UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #stepToCallee >>>>>> >>>>>> this happened inside BlockClosure >> newProcess at Processor >>>>>> terminateActive >>>>>> >>>>>> When I execute the command it works fine because I can see the output >>>>>> in the terminal. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:23 AM David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 12:41:58AM +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>>>>>> > hello David and thank you for your help and your detailed >>>>>>> explanation. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > as I said I used >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > p :=(PipeableOSProcess command: 'ls') . p output. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > and it just returns an empty string. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The way this should work is that p (an instance of >>>>>>> PipeableOSProcess) >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> answer its output up to EOF (end of file) on the stdout from the >>>>>>> process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you please try stepping through this slowly in a debugger, and >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it works? Or put "(Delay forSeconds: 1)" right before you do "p >>>>>>> output"? >>>>>>> I am guessing that there may be something about the OSProcessPlugin >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> VM that is causing EOF detection to fail, such that you just get an >>>>>>> empty >>>>>>> string as output. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not have a Mac to test, so I am only guessing. It might also be >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> bug in the OSProcess plugin, I'm not sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to help me identify what your are running, could you please >>>>>>> evaluate >>>>>>> "OSProcess accessor osppModuleVersionString" and let me know what it >>>>>>> says? >>>>>>> The current version would be '4.6.1' but other versions may be in >>>>>>> circulation, >>>>>>> and that could affect EOF detection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Are there other ways to return the output of the terminal ? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 1:57 AM David T. Lewis >>>>>>> <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 09:50:29PM +0000, Dimitris Chloupis >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > > > So I try to understand how OSProcess work exactly to find why >>>>>>> filetree >>>>>>> > > > seems not able to use it and generating the error I already >>>>>>> reported >>>>>>> > > > earlier. >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > Using something simple like >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > OSProcess command:'pwd' >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > works great , I have the terminal open and I can see the >>>>>>> correct >>>>>>> return >>>>>>> > > > value of the command in my terminal but for some reason I can >>>>>>> find no >>>>>>> > > such >>>>>>> > > > info when I inspect the above example. So how exactly >>>>>>> OSProcess >>>>>>> returns >>>>>>> > > the >>>>>>> > > > output of the terminal ? Is there an instance variable of some >>>>>>> sort ? >>>>>>> > > > Because I tried to inspect it deeply and I found nothing . Can >>>>>>> you help >>>>>>> > > me >>>>>>> > > > understand how OSProcess work ? Because If I do understand it >>>>>>> then I can >>>>>>> > > > find what the problem is . >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Hi Dimitris, >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > The OSProcess and CommandShell packages provide a variety of >>>>>>> ways >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> > > create and interact with operating system processes. In the case >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> > > "OSProcess command: 'pwd'" it is starting a new unix shell >>>>>>> (/bin/sh, which >>>>>>> > > on most systems is the Bash shell). Once it starts the shell, it >>>>>>> asks >>>>>>> > > the shell to evaluate the 'pwd' command. In this case, you would >>>>>>> see the >>>>>>> > > output of that 'pwd' command appearing in the terminal window >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> > > Pharo VM process. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > If you inspect the result of this, you should see an instance of >>>>>>> > > ExternalUnixOSProcess. This is a proxy that represents the >>>>>>> operating >>>>>>> > > system process that was used to run /bin/sh. It should look >>>>>>> something like >>>>>>> > > this: >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > an ExternalUnixOSProcess with pid 10703 on /bin/sh (complete, >>>>>>> normal >>>>>>> > > termination with status 0) >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > The exitStatus instance variable of the ExternaUnixProcess >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> be 0 in >>>>>>> > > this example, which means only that the shell ran successfully >>>>>>> (It >>>>>>> does not >>>>>>> > > tell you exit status of the 'pwd' command in this case, although >>>>>>> there are >>>>>>> > > other ways to do that). >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > There are other classes, especially PipeableOSProcess and >>>>>>> CommandShell, >>>>>>> > > that support higher level control of OS processes, with direct >>>>>>> connection >>>>>>> > > of the stdin/stdout/stderr streams to your Smalltalk image. I >>>>>>> expect that >>>>>>> > > filetree would be using these higher level abstractions. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I don't know if this helps with your problem but maybe it gives >>>>>>> you some >>>>>>> > > ideas. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Dave >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:06:19 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Documentations for Garage > Message-ID: <563D164B.8060500(a)free.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > http://guillep.github.io/DBXTalk/garage/ > > > Le 5/11/15 12:54, lionelakue(a)gmail.com a ?crit : >> Hello >> I have attended a formation with Stephane Ducass in Lom?-Togo. And I >> am about to start a new project: an immobilier management application >> built in pharo with a pgsql database for a company here. >> So I am looking for some Documentation on Garage. For the basic purposes: >> -connection >> -queries >> -etc >> Thank you > >

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Trying to understand OSProcess on MacOS Yosemite
by Dimitris Chloupis Nov. 7, 2015

Nov. 7, 2015

So I try to understand how OSProcess work exactly to find why filetree seems not able to use it and generating the error I already reported earlier. Using something simple like OSProcess command:'pwd' works great , I have the terminal open and I can see the correct return value of the command in my terminal but for some reason I can find no such info when I inspect the above example. So how exactly OSProcess returns the output of the terminal ? Is there an instance variable of some sort ? Because I tried to inspect it deeply and I found nothing . Can you help me understand how OSProcess work ? Because If I do understand it then I can find what the problem is .

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Documentations for Garage
by lionelakue＠gmail.com Nov. 6, 2015

Nov. 6, 2015

Hello I have attended a formation with Stephane Ducass in LomÃ©-Togo. And I am about to start a new project: an immobilier management application built in pharo with a pgsql database for a company here. So I am looking for some Documentation on Garage. For the basic purposes: -connection -queries -etc Thank you

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Pharos-Book
by Sebastian Heidbrink Nov. 6, 2015

Nov. 6, 2015

Hi! Is there a CI server somewhere that currently builds the PharOS-Book? Or is there a place where the last built is available for download? Cheers! Sebastian

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Smalltalkhub password reset?
by Euan Mee Nov. 5, 2015

Nov. 5, 2015

How do you get a password reset for a SmalltalkHub account? (I'm convinced the EuanM who has an account is me, but I cannot manage to log in)

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[ANN] QuickAccess for Pharo 5
by Torsten Bergmann Nov. 5, 2015

Nov. 5, 2015

Hi, I quickly wrote yet another small tool to work faster with Pharo. I call it "QuickAccess" - it's some kind of "ScriptManager 2.0" allowing you to quickly access actions (defined as code scripts) via Spotter, Menu, Button, etc. You can load it from Spotter/Catalog in Pharo 5.0 beta. The following video demonstrates how to use it: http://youtu.be/j-dTp6i_P3s The defined structure including the scripts can be exported to a file and send around. So far it is "complete" for my own requirements - if you feel something is missing you can contribute and help moving it forward. The repo is at http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/QuickAccess Contact me with your STHub account if you need access. The tool has some similarities with Playground/script cache, but GT tools lack the category structuring for scripts that you find in QuickAccess. It might be an inspiration for a future unified script management solution in Playground. Have fun! Bye T.

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[ANN] Working with Pharo on the Raspberry Pi
by Torsten Bergmann Nov. 4, 2015

Nov. 4, 2015

For me this combination worked and was faster than the one that I described in the article: => Image https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-5.0-spur32/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact… => VM http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3427/cogspurlinuxhtARM-15.33.3… So I happily run Pharo 5 on the Pi now. Bye Torsten

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[ANN] OopluCon 2016, San Francisco, April
by Chris Cunnington Nov. 3, 2015

Nov. 3, 2015

OopluCon 2016 A Day for the Smalltalk Programming Language and its Friends Sunday 10 April 2016 8am - 4pm The Box SF 1069 Howard Street (between 6th and 7th) three blocks from Moscone Center, SoMa San Francisco, USA http://www.theboxsf.com/ The event is free A request for presentations will be announced in a future month A presentation called An Introduction To Smalltalk will promoted to the Ruby, Python and Objective C communities The latest details will be available at http://www.ooplu.com

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