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[Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :)
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Hi guys Sometimes I'm not in good mood. Today I was in a bad bad mood. Quite bad even badder. I was wondering why I was doing all that and the rest. What was the use to do Pharo if we get Squeak doing exactly the same - Ok we were right long time ago but still seeing all the removal of crappy code we begged to be removed and got bashed for and also doing all that effort and seeing it redone was not helping. Being right sometimes is not even cool :) So a plain bad day.... cold and rainy. I was frustrated that I cannot be somebody else, doing stuff full time and no other duties and going faster. In short nothing was working and I was a frustation ball like I'm good at being. But my kids were there and we had to go swimming! After going swimming and not thinking then thinking and discussing with some remote friends and emails. (Thanks guys you know who you are) also thinking about other people's attention and remarks in other contexts, my good mood came back even stronger than before because I came up to the conclusion that my remote friends were right (BTW thanks pharoers some of you inspire me today during my bad mood - alain, henrik, danny, lukas...) So what is the conclusion of all that? - I have a cool job (one of the best research positions in europe - not easy everyday but cool and with people supporting me with my crazy idea....imagine coding in smalltalk building an international team doing smalltalkish stuff). - we can invest for 5 years or even 10. Close your eyes and imagine we can decide now what we want to do now for the next 10 years and do it because we decided that this is fun. Amazing. No clients, no venture guys telling us the truth of life. - To a friend to which I was saying that I'm not that smart, that guy told me that smart is not the only measure: you can measure your impact, the books you wrote, the energy that other people took and got inspired and all kind of other measures.... :) So I can tell you I was down but this is good because I could think about what I really want to do. And I want to have an innovative Smalltalk system that can be used to develop business and innovative. (for example I would like to see if the new event system can be used to save Genie - one of the coolest handwriting recognition system I see). So I will not be extra-smart but I will learn and I will do it bit by bit. And I want to make it fun and beautiful. May be we will be able to go faster (it depends mainly on you guys :)) but I want 10 years or 15 or even 20 years of fun with a cool system and it is there in my hand (at three keystrokes from my keuboard). We will build it. Stef (sorry for the one of you that have to listen my bad mood I'm curing myself).

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[Pharo-project] pharo cairo new home
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

with the blessing of mike, I cleaned the PharoTaskForces repository and copied the packages from the impara repository so that you can publish your improvements Gofer new squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; package: 'Rome-Reference'; package: 'Rome-BalloonCanvas'; package: 'Rome-Base'; package: 'Rome-PluginCanvas'; package: 'Rome-Fonts'; package: 'Rome-Demo'; load stef

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[Pharo-project] Fwd: [INRIAGforge] January 2010, the 14th : scheduled service downtime
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

I imagine that the english dat is good. Else this is too late :) > Date: January 7, 2010 6:40:25 PM GMT+01:00 > To: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > Subject: [INRIAGforge] January 2010, the 14th : scheduled service downtime > > Due to sheduled maintenance, the INRIA Forge will be shut down from 17h00. > The restart is planned from 19h00 on the same day. > > We apologize for any inconvenience. > > Cordially, > > -- > The InriaGforge Team > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > 14 Octobre 2009 : arrÃªt du service pour maintenance > > La Forge INRIA sera arrÃªtÃ©e Ã partir de 17h00 pour de maintenance. > Le redÃ©marrage est prÃ©vu Ã partir de 19h00 le jour mÃªme. > > Nous sommes dÃ©solÃ©s pour le dÃ©rangement occasionnÃ©. > > Cordialement, > > -- > L'Ã©quipe InriaGforge >

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[Pharo-project] Simple question about NewInspector
by Mariano Martinez Peck Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Hi Frederic. I am trying to see if it make sense to create a metacello configuration for NewInspector. The only external (not in PharoCore) dependency I saw using the DependencyBrowser is RoelTyper, which is used in the class NICompiledMethodNode >> configuration you use the class TypeCollector which is from RoelTyper. So, the question is, is this dependency correct? I ask because I took a PharoCore image, load NewINspector WITHOUT RoelTyper and it "seemed" to work. Thank you very much. Mariano

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[Pharo-project] DNU in dev image freezes my image
by Danie Roux Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

All, I downloaded pharo1.1-11112-alphadev09.12.2.zip, opened a Workspace and caused a DNU. This froze my image. Bug report: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1750 -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix - http://danieroux.com

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[Pharo-project] cutting dependencies
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Hi guys, Just to keep you informed. Tomorrow we will use Moose on Pharo1.1core to assess some dependencies between packages. We already did that in the past and cut some obvious dependencies. We will redo one step with Jannik and Marcus. We will probably redo a couple of sessions. The goal is to identify evil cyclic dependencies and fix them. The tool of jannik is good for that and we applied it on Morphic now we want to apply it on pharo. In the past we fixed some problems and identified missing infrastructural elements. For example the lack of a registration mechanism for the main menu. Now the fact that Setting is cool will also reduce some problems we saw before. This will raise the question of the usage of services too. Because Services are a registration mechanism. Some of you may have noticed that Andreas was successful to remove some packages from Squeak. It should be noted that a lot of these packages are already unloadable in Pharo :) The reorganization also in Test was already done in pharo. Lot of the changes happening in Squeak now (except some of the speed improvements) has already been done some time ago in Pharo. So this is nice to see that our vision was right. During a couple of years we pushed to get a smaller/cleaner system in Squeak and this is happening. So this is nice to see that we are right even if most people will not recognize or remember it :) Stef (going swimming in this cold winter).

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[Pharo-project] Beginner question :) search and replace in String
by Adrian Kuhn Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Method finder does not find a method for 'foobarqux' . 'bar' . 'XYZ' . 'fooXYZqux' and stupid me couldn't find a method on String either. How to get this done? +10 internets for solution with regex. --AA

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[Pharo-project] Mars project on SqueakSource "reseted"
by Esteban Lorenzano Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Hi, I want to inform that all packages on Mars project on squeaksource were removed, because its unusability. Those packages were from the "first attempt" to build a native UI, and now I'm working with a new approach. I will start upload new versions of Mars and Deimos project right after send this email. Cheers, Esteban pd: if someone is interested on those old files, please email me and I will send a zip will latest versions.

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[Pharo-project] getting crazy with ImageSegment code
by Mariano Martinez Peck Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

Hi folks. I will pay a beer in next ESUG to the person that helps me to refactor this piece of code of ImageSegments: The idea is that I have a list of classes that were inactive and I want to group them by category (actually, seeing the code I think it is package) and to to create an ImageSegment per category (or package). This is the code (ONLYYYYY a piece...I cut all the rest) unused := self inactiveClassesDuringDiscovery. "These are the classes that were not used" groups := Dictionary new. SystemOrganization categories do: [:cat | i := (cat findLast: [:c | c = $-]) - 1. i <= 0 ifTrue: [i := cat size]. groups at: (cat copyFrom: 1 to: i) put: (groups at: (cat copyFrom: 1 to: i) ifAbsent: [Array new]) , ((SystemOrganization superclassOrder: cat) select: [:c | unused includes: c]) asArray]. groups keys do: [:cat | roots := groups at: cat. Transcript cr; cr; show: cat; cr; print: roots; endEntry. roots := roots , (roots collect: [:c | c class]). "There seems to be a problem with these packages, thus they are excluded." ((cat beginsWith: 'Sys') or: [cat beginsWith: 'Multilingual'] or: [cat beginsWith: 'Kerne'] ) ifFalse: [(ImageSegment new copyFromRoots: roots sizeHint: 0) extract; writeToFile: cat]. Transcript cr; print: Smalltalk garbageCollect; endEntry] Can someone help me tu rewrite this? I think I could use PackageOrganizer or PackageInfo but I have no idea. Thanks! Mariano

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Gofer and Metacello don't work again in 10505
by Dale Henrichs Jan. 7, 2010

Jan. 7, 2010

The packaging for Gofer has changed, so that breaks the ensureMetacello code that was trying to determine the version of Gofer that was loaded ... there is no package named Gofer anymore, so I'll have to figure something out ... Dale ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: | Gofer-Core-AdrianLienhard.114 from | http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo | cheers | | mariano | | On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Dale Henrichs | <dale.henrichs(a)gemstone.com>wrote: | | > What version of Gofer is loaded into the Core? | > | > Dale | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: | > | > | The error is Working copy for Gofer not found | > | | > | To reproduce it, update your Pharo 1.0 core image to 10505 and | > | evaluate any | > | load of any ConfigurationOf...for example | > | | > | (ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras project version: '1.0') load | > | | > | The error is not even fixed evaluating: | > | | > | [ Gofer gofer load ] | > | on: Error | > | do: [ :err | err retry ]. | > | Gofer gofer recompile. | > | | > | I attach PharoDebug.log | > | | > | Any help? | > | | > | Thanks | > | | > | Mariano | >

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