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[Pharo-project] Providing a Cog debug [WAS] Fwd: [Vm-dev] Debugging Cog crash
by Mariano Martinez Peck April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

Hi...I was reading this thread, and even before his last answer, I was thinking more or less the same. Is it worth it to create one more target in Hudson so that to create cogs but with debug flags? It is not necessary to create for stack vm, cog and mt. Maybe just cog is enough. And one for each OS. So, it is only 3 targets, using: CogDebugMacOSConfig, CogDebugUnixConfig, and ... (sorry, I didn't find in windows..). What do you think? is it worth it ? or we can say "ehhh ehh compile it by your own " ? cheers Mariano ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> Date: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Debugging Cog crash To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr" < Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>, Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Is there a debug version of Cog that I can run on the box? I have casually avoided learning how to build Cog in part because that means I can't hack the FFI plugin, which forces me to play by the rules on library paths/ldconfig, etc. It also means that I don't have a build environment ready to go, so I can't readily add syslog() calls to bracket where it quits. gdb isn't helping as described below. If there is something you want me to try, let me know. We have a reproducible Cog crash. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [ pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K [ bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 6:03 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] FW: Debugging Cog crash Levente, I follow on why my shell script did not work. Your instructions got me going, but we still don't have an answer. The vm is running, but I cannot attach: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2008-March/001840.html >From what I read, one answer is the get the image loaded and then attach - my problem is that the vm never gets far enough to actually load the image. Any ideas? Bill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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[Pharo-project] relational database and id field
by Alexandre Bergel April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

Hi! Since there are some experts in databases here, I ask a general question about it. Assume that I have to use a relational database to store, let's stay instances of Stef's ComicBook class. Should the class ComicBook have a field id to uniquely identify a book? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Unexpected behavior of roundTo:
by Marcus Denker April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Well, whatever the underneath representation, one can expect roundedTo: > 2 to return a float with two decimals. > Sometimes I think we should use the resources that these amazing machines give us these days to move programming languages closer to humans... There are better Float models than the ones that are implemented in hardware. E.g. another INRIA Project is this GNU MPFR: "The MPFR library is a C library for multiple-precision floating-point computations with correct rounding." http://www.mpfr.org/ Why don't we make our language better at "real" math? The power in the machine is definitly there... I am quite convincd that if there are normal programming languages in 50 years, the math part of them will be closer to Mathematica then to C... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] Unexpected behavior of roundTo:
by Hilaire Fernandes April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

2.8011416510246336 roundTo: 0.01 returns 2.8000000000000003 Tested with 1.2 Should I fill a ticket, I don't see anythings similar? Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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[Pharo-project] FW: Debugging Cog crash
by Schwab,Wilhelm K April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

Gratuitous default recipient... If there is a verbose dump option or other diagnostic efforts that will help, I will do my best to run them and report the results. I am fairly certain the vm is 'Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.54]' (can verify later today), but this happened with an earlier Cog one-click too. There is something about the machine (UUID again?) that is different. I do not have root access to it, but I can get to a terminal. Ubuntu 10.10. ________________________________________ From: Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 7:44 AM To: Mariano Martinez Peck Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] Debugging Cog crash Mariano, I first identified this problem/opportunity a while ago. At the time, there was no log - the vm just died. I can sniff around again as there might be one this time. My question at the time was whether there was something that I could enable to perhaps get more info. The output from the vm is, and I quote<g> "Segmentation fault". There is no other output. Perhaps it does not get far enough to have a call stack?? Bill ________________________________________ From: Mariano Martinez Peck [marianopeck(a)gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 3:42 AM To: Squeak Development Discussion Virtual Machine; Pharo Development Cc: Schwab,Wilhelm K Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Debugging Cog crash also...shouldn't be a crash/dump file somewhere? can you write the output of the console where you invoke the VM into a file ? (using > to redirect) Cheers Mariano On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Hello all, I have an account on an Ubuntu terminal server (at least I think that's what it would be called) running 10.10. The Cog one-click image crashes with "Segmentation fault" (if run from a terminal); the legacy VM seems to run the image nicely on the box. Any ideas? I will happily collect any facts that will be of help, but I need some direction. Bill -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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[Pharo-project] squeakdbx and Pharo 1.2
by Torsten Bergmann April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

What is state of squeakdbx in conjunction with Pharo 1.2? Is anyone using it? Which backends are know to successfully work? Thx T. -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

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[Pharo-project] Issue 3976 in pharo: Fix double entry Apperance in Settings
by pharo＠googlecode.com April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

Status: FixToInclude Owner: marcus.d...(a)gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3976 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Fix double entry Apperance in Settings http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3976 Fix double entry Apperance in Settings Attachments: DoubleAppearanceMenuFix.1.cs 165 bytes

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[Pharo-project] Issue 3973 in pharo: remove TextStyleFontSelectorDialogWindow
by pharo＠googlecode.com April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

Status: Accepted Owner: laurent....(a)gmail.com CC: marcus.d...(a)gmail.com New issue 3973 by laurent....(a)gmail.com: remove TextStyleFontSelectorDialogWindow http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3973 >> TextStyleFontSelectorDialogWindow new => error. >> Is it used ?? If it is broken, it is not used. >> Should we remove it ? things that nobody cares about should be removed. Who will maintain them? Nobody. (I will remove it on next COTDC integration - Laurent)

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13137
by Marcus Denker April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

13137 ----- Issue 3973: remove TextStyleFontSelectorDialogWindow (deprecated) Issue 3976: Fix double entry Apperance in Settings Issue 3975: References to ivars shortcut The last one of Igor is very nice: In editor you can just select ivar name and then press cmd-shift-N to see all references to it, instead of using browser button. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2336 in pharo: Fix handling of duplicate/swap control and alt keys.
by pharo＠googlecode.com April 8, 2011

April 8, 2011

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #2 on issue 2336 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Fix handling of duplicate/swap control and alt keys. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2336 (No comment was entered for this change.)

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