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[Pharo-project] focus morph
by Hilaire Fernandes June 23, 2011

June 23, 2011

Hello, In a panel morph I have a collection of morph, I want the focus features on these morphes. morphs of the collection respond true to the takesKeyboardFocus message but so far it does not help. What is the usual way to do that? -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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[Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards
by Sean P. DeNigris June 23, 2011

June 23, 2011

In my unit test, I want to make sure that my output equals the expectedOutput, but: TestCase>>assert: expected equals: actual It feels wrong to me. It seems that I want to make an assertion about my class's behavior and I would like to write: self assert: output equals: expectedOutput. What do you all think? Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3614760.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks
by Sven Van Caekenberghe June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

This was posted on the Seaside mailing list, I think it is both funny and hitting several points. I am not sure about the last item though ;-) Sven Begin forwarded message: On 22 Jun 2011, at 04:58, Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2737880/screenshots/pharovsvisualworks.png > >

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[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 74 - MorphTreeNodeMorph
by laurent laffont June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

Today: MorphTreeNodeMorph Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

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[Pharo-project] PharoKernel 13269
by Igor Stasenko June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

oops, forgot CCs. On 22 June 2011 20:07, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> what we should pay attention (to be verified) is that igor told me that he >> does not understand why >> the latest code of the vm published by eliot does not include some fixes >> he did for 1.2. May be the code was never integrated. >> In addition the latest vm produced by eliot does not include a long list >> of fixes made by igor and mariano. >> Igor asked in the vm mailing-list what will happen to his changes and >> there were no reaction so far. > > I feel some ownership of the Cog branch. Â It would be nice to have a chance > to review code before it gets in instead of having to merge. Â You might > think of sending me changesets for the more complex sets of changes (e.g. > finalization) so that the merge is easier. Â Finally, you might understand > that I'm busy at work and for personal reasons have essentially no time at > the weekends to work on Cog. The code are available for you at VMMaker repository. It is hardly an excuse that you cannot review it in such form. Because you are working with MC (i seen that) and i bet that you know it good enough to compare two snapshots and do the merge. Concerning changesets, etc etc.. i pointed to code with new finalization to you multiple times, in multiple forms (.cs , .mcz ) and reminded dozen times. Still , as of now, these 2 methods change + 1 additional class var are still not in main cog branch (by main i consider one which are released by you). So, how does these facts correllating with what you stated above? Also, let me remind you that first two letters in OSCog stands for open source, which means that this project are open source and no single person can own it. It is owned by comminity, by definition. And while i really like if you (or anybody else) can spend his time reviewing my code, it doesn't means that all contributions should come through single person, since it creates an unnecessary bottleneck in development process. And actually current experience shows how it is bad to have such bottlenecks. So, if you want to own your project, it is fine - keep your own private copy of Cog somewhere but don't call it public. >Â Criticising me in public like this does not > make me any more eager to find the time. Ignoring my contributions don't makes me more eagier to do anything as well. Continuously, i feel like i am at a noise level for you, which you constantly ignoring. Because you often reacting to contributions from others and swiftly integrating them, but not mine. It looks like i am black listed, or you have a noise filter.. since nothing i did (which i consider important) are in your VMs. Maybe i deserve to be at a noise level, and all my work not worth a single penny. Just say it. Make it clear. Because ignoring is a worst choice. >> >> So we should pay attention that using the latest vm from eliot may also >> break our system. We should also think about the fact that >> may be we will have to burn igor's time to merge vm fixes when other >> people don't do it. >> I asked igor to continue to work on the windows build because we want to >> run regression tests at the VM level. We should be able to trace >> vm changes and control the impact they have on us and not run after >> different versions and releases. To have a process in a sense. >> >> Stef >> >> yeah.. harmonization, it would be good, Eliot if you take a look of >> changes made in >> VMMaker-oscog-MarianoMartinezPeck.66 >> and integrate them, so we will use common version. >> >> They have a common ancestor - >> VMMaker-oscog.54 >> >> Without this all of the following work will be lost: >> >> Name: VMMaker-oscog-IgorStasenko.54 >> Author: IgorStasenko >> Time: 23 March 2011, 5:30:42 pm >> UUID: c98a0b6c-7f68-4af7-9012-85d3dfdf29ae >> Ancestors: VMMaker-oscog-IgorStasenko.53 >> >> - added disabling module loading support >> >> >> Name: VMMaker-oscog.dtl.56 >> Author: dtl >> Time: 4 April 2011, 10:06:00.292 pm >> UUID: c1d30608-00e8-53b7-209a-34f7a46c1508 >> Ancestors: VMMaker-IgorStasenko.55 >> >> Add tests from VMMaker trunk to document various issues and verify >> presence of primitives. >> >> Name: VMMaker-oscog.dtl.57 >> Author: dtl >> Time: 11 April 2011, 10:13:51.668 pm >> UUID: c1d30608-04dd-53b7-209a-34f7a46c1508 >> Ancestors: VMMaker-oscog.dtl.56 >> >> Generate C code for #repeat. >> Implementation by Igor Stasenko and Nicolas Cellier. > > That's already integrated. > Not. As i seen in your latest snapshot, an " Â added disabling module loading support " not there as well as a better finalization scheme i implemented YEAR ago and its already used in our images. Just evaluate WeakFinalizationList hasNewFinalization in your image under VMs you built. Now, with such approach, i feel very afraid, how much time it would take for integrating Ephemerons, which i implemented, and would really like to be reviewed by you. If 2 methods change taking almost a year to integrate.. then this could take 5 years.. or not be integrated at all. >> >> Name: VMMaker-oscog-dtl.58 >> Author: dtl >> Time: 17 April 2011, 10:22:12.174 pm >> UUID: c1d30608-04b3-a5b7-20ca-2bf7a46c1508 >> Ancestors: VMMaker-oscog-dtl.57, VMMaker-oscog.dtl.57 >> >> Merge VMMaker-oscog.dtl.57 >> >> Generate C code for #repeat. >> Implementation by Igor Stasenko and Nicolas Cellier. > > ditto. > >> >> Name: VMMaker-oscog-dtl.59 >> Author: dtl >> Time: 17 April 2011, 10:32:55.018 pm >> UUID: c1d30608-042d-4bb7-20ca-2bf7a46c1508 >> Ancestors: VMMaker-oscog-dtl.58 >> >> Merge VMMaker-oscog.dtl.58, and add #primitiveImageFormatVersion > > Since there's a VM parameter I question the need for yet-another-primitive. > >> >> Add primitiveMillisecondClockMask, an optional named primitive used in >> conjunction with primitiveMillisecondClock for duration calculations. >> The image assumes a value for this constant that is assumed to >> correspond to the actual value used in the VM. This primitive permits >> the VM to report the actual value being used. > > Already integrated. > >> >> Add primitiveImageFormatVersion, an optional named primitive answering >> the image format number of the current image. This is the value stored >> in the first word of an image file header when the image is saved, and >> possibly modified on image load if the VM adds or removes capabilities >> for the running image. This primitive was added to VMMaker trunk in >> VMMaker-dtl.169. Rationale: supports float word order handing for >> image segments, reference >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2011-April/007712.html > > Not integrating this. Â The VM parameter (41) has been in Cog since the > beginning. Â Instead why not merge the VM parameter back into Interpreter? > Maybe i missed a discussion, where you stating that? Btw, i really prefer symbolic names rather than numbers. Because it is easier to remember, easier to handle and less confusing. So, on one hand we have an extra primitive with clear name, which states what it does, on another hand we having a magic number '41' (btw, why not 42, i like it more? ;) ), which says NOTHING. Guess, which side wins? But of course this single difference is not very significant. Unless we approach to this systematically (use symbolic names instead numbers), which i would really prefer to have. [snip] -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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[Pharo-project] [Tiling Window Manager ] could not load it
by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

Hi i could not load TWM on pharo unstable core.(see below) what am i doing wrong? any idea? thanks Pharo image: Pharo1.3#13272 Virtual machine used: Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.54] Platform Name: unix Class browser used (if applicable): Browser Steps to reproduce: #. Gofer it squeaksource: 'TilingWindowManager'; package: 'ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager'; load. #.ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager load. #. Actual Result This package depends on the following classes: OBCodeBrowser You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: OBCodeBrowser classSide>>pathworkUIThemeColor #. Expected Result to load it successfully

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[Pharo-project] Swazoo keeping HTTPConnections open
by Bernat Romagosa June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

Hi list, I don't know where should I address this issue, so please excuse me if this mail is a bit off-topic. I've been running an Iliad app in Pharo for a couple of months, and just today I realised the image was behaving quite sluggish, so I checked the process browser and discovered thousands (literally) of Delay >> wait instances going on. Inspecting them, I found out they had all been spawned by Swazoo's HTTPConnection >> interact. So what I did is HTTPConnection allInstancesDo: [:c | c close], which took quite a while to conclude, and the problem was solved, but these processes keep on spawning every time a user logs in, and they never seem to die unless I tell them to. Also, killing these processes seems to have no effect on the application behaviour at all, all sessions stay where they should and everything is alright, so I'm even considering using a scheduler that kills'em'all every hour or so (how elegant could this be!) Has anybody ran into a similar issue before? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.

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June 22, 2011

> Almost done ;-) > > We will put the final version soon on Lulu and on the website. > The file is available here: > http://ffii.fr/ramix/PBE/PharoParLExemple-20-06-2011.pdf Stef

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[Pharo-project] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks
by Janko MivÅ¡ek June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011

Dear Smalltalkers, Few months ago I started a comparison of Aida, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks, with initial goal to check the strengths and weaknesses of Aida to draw a direction for future Aida development. But later I came to idea (and was encouraged also by Stef and others) to improve it and make this comparison public, therefore for all of you. I then invited few Iliad and Seaside guys to help balance the comparison, but unfortunately Seasiders were not willing to join, with their stated reason that spreadsheet of comparative features is not the best way to do such comparison. My answer is that a form of spreadsheet is a simplest start of such comparison. This feature list and check marks can be later a foundation for some more advanced comparison. We need to start from somewhere and such checkmarked spreadsheet is easiest to achieve in a shortest time. So, now I'm inviting all of you to take a look at this Google Docs spreadsheet and comment it. This way we will come at least one step closer to so needed comparison: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndGRTUFIzT3VON0lTQ3Jxdl… Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

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June 22, 2011

soo funny :) He missed a row: vision :) Stef Begin forwarded message: > From: pharo-project-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Date: June 22, 2011 7:32:32 AM GMT+02:00 > To: stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com > Subject: Fwd: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks > > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has > been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at > pharo-project-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr. > > > From: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> > Date: June 22, 2011 7:32:21 AM GMT+02:00 > To: Pharo Development <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Subject: Fwd: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks > > > I will let you guys judge how funny some smalltalkers are... > > Stef > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs" <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com> >> Date: June 22, 2011 4:52:42 AM GMT+02:00 >> To: "VWNC" <vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu> >> Subject: Re: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2737880/screenshots/pharovsvisualworks.png >> >> >> >> -Boris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vwnc-bounces(a)cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:vwnc-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu] On Behalf Of Janko MivÅ¡ek >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:01 PM >> To: 'VWNC' >> Subject: Re: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks >> >> S, Travis Griggs piÅ¡e: >> ... >> >> >> https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndGRTUFIzT3VON0lT >> >> Q3JxdlZYTUxhOFE&hl=en&authkey=CJva7-8L&pli=1#gid=0 >> >> > Very nice Janko. I agree that having something like this is very handy. I think with some polish and rounding out, it could be a nice thing. >> >> Thanks Travis. We need to have a clear picture where we are with web frameworks to go further and be on the frontiers of web technologies again. That was my initial goal of this comparison for Aida and I hope with a bit polishing soon for Iliad and Seaside as well. >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> -- >> Janko MivÅ¡ek >> Aida/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si >> _______________________________________________ >> vwnc mailing list >> vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc >> _______________________________________________ >> vwnc mailing list >> vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc > > >

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