Referring to the thread on the Seaside list, the objections over some bias in the original comparison are well taken. One thing I was hoping to see was a rebuttal showing how easy it is to authenticate users; I have hacked such things into systems, but I would really like to see turn key (or nearly so) ways to have app-specific ("home grown"), LDAP, and Shibboleth based authentication/authorization. One can always dream :) As powerful as Seaside is overall, it **appears** to be lacking in this area - or maybe I simply have more to learn. Re the condensed comparision graphic, "one window" is both a strength and a weakness. While I have never particularly enjoyed using it, VW certainly has its points. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sven Van Caekenberghe [sven@beta9.be] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:50 AM To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-source Smalltalk Subject: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks This was posted on the Seaside mailing list, I think it is both funny and hitting several points. I am not sure about the last item though ;-) Sven Begin forwarded message: On 22 Jun 2011, at 04:58, Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2737880/screenshots/pharovsvisualworks.png [cid:image001.png@01CC3066.C79FAE30]