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Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Deep into Smalltalk School video
by Mariano Martinez Peck Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

+1. It was great and it would be very nice to have it. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > I heard at ESUG that the "Deep into Smalltalk School" course was recorded. > It > sounded very interesting. Will that be made available publicly? > > Thanks. > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Deep-into-Smalltalk-School-video-tp3778561p3778561.ht… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 release
by Marcus Denker Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:21 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Nice and clear info. The only thing that I see left that may be confusing is > the ci shortcut on the home page. Since there are currently two ci servers, > I think the ci link should take you to another page explaining the > difference and where they're headed. > > > Is hudson will be dropped or will stay around ? > Hudson will be discontinued at some point. But we need to move everything Jenkins before. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 release
by Marcus Denker Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:48 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:52 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: > > > > > 1.2 is for download on the site, 1.3 is listed on the site with no links, and 1.4 is discussed on the mailing list. I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Pharo, which version is being actively developed and maintained, which one to use, etc. It is very frustrating. So what's the deal with the Pharo "roadmap" ? > > > > > > Pat > > > > situation is really simple > > 1.3 is in post release candidate mode. > > we should build the one click distribution, update the web site and announce it > > > > > > I can update the website when you tell me. > > > > Laurent. > > thanks laurent > > could you add a little info and a link on the latest 1.3 release candidate? > > > Yes. I've tried but I'm stupid I don't know how to add a blog post on cmsbox :) I'm waiting Adrian answer but maybe one of you know ? > I would not do a blog post but just put infos on http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-3 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] SCG Unibe CH Smalltalk Course
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Hi, I recently discovered the slides (and exercises) of a Smalltalk course from the University of Bern: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/st/ I find these very well done: they are beautiful, have really great, advanced content, very impressive. Thanks. I think these could certainly be interesting for others too. Sven PS: Is this course still taught ?

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[Pharo-project] SCG Unibe CH Smalltalk Course
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote on Pharo list: > I recently discovered the slides (and exercises) of a Smalltalk course from the University of Bern: > > http://scg.unibe.ch/download/st/ Yes, nice intro to Smalltalk and Pharo, VM technology and true dynamic languages. Max Leske wrote: >I guess, the course in the form of those slides, however, is dead. Sad - maybe it could be redone one time again and recorded with a cam to provide an online ST/Pharo course based on this material. Would IMHO be nice for http://www.pharocasts.com and the pharo website and help to grow the visibility of Smalltalk (and the Uni Bern of course). The HPI Potsdam also already provides some Smalltalk related material on http://tele-task.de (for instance a keynote by Alan Kay) and a complete online Smalltalk video demo course would be cool! Any ideas if this could be made possible? Bye T. -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurÃ¼ck-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

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[Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4
by Sean P. DeNigris Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Does anyone have OB working in 1.4? Thanks. Sean (On an extended vacation in Edinburgh for most of the week thanks to hurricane Irene) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-in-1-4-tp3774180p3774180.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] Got network sockets working in Android Cog
by Dimitry Golubovsky Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Hi, I got network sockets to work in my Android port of CogVM with PharoCore-13137 image. I made changes to the logic of aioPoll so that it just checks on all handles once and returns if no I/O operations are ready without any looping, otherwise calls all relevant I/O handlers and returns. aioPoll is called as part of ioProcessEvents. I am able to open Monticello repos, download packages, merge, see diffs etc. Socket tests mostly succeeded, 2 failed. One for https (I did not investigate yet how to use SSL in Android NDK, so no surprise it does not work); another is NetNameResolverTest>>testLocalHostName (also failed on PC as I just checked so there is something non-related to Android). I am trying to run the "Software update" item on Pharo. It seems to progress, but very slowly (partly because Squeaksource is very slow from the US). Not sure how long it may take, but I'll try to get it to complete ;) Anyway, this is another step towards release. I have currently these plugins compiled in: BitBltSimulation "BitBltPlugin" BalloonEnginePlugin "B2DPlugin" FileCopyPlugin FilePlugin FloatArrayPlugin FloatMathPlugin JoystickTabletPlugin JPEGReaderPlugin RePlugin SecurityPlugin JPEGReadWriter2Plugin SocketPlugin MiscPrimitivePlugin DeflatePlugin "ZipPlugin" The plugin choice was mostly arbitrary, beyond those really necessary (Balloon Engine, Socket, etc.) What other plugins are worth adding and testing before I start preparing for the release? Thanks. -- Dimitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web

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[Pharo-project] MorphLayout
by Camillo Bruni Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Hi, I am looking for a sort of FlowLayout which works the same way usually text is handled: All submorphs are put on a single line and wrapped when the border is hit. Is there already a layout which does this?

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[Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >I ultimately want a system that is clean and beautiful down >as close to the metal as possible. >... >once the necessary pain is done, I think many will step up and >produce amazing things, but not if the cleaning and restructuring stops. +1000 We have to dig in the dirt in the basement until we can say we have a stable ground floor for nice rooms in the upper floors. But still we live in this home while we do all this! On the other side we cry to keep the comfort of our home (tools/compatibility). This is a conflict. Dont know if we have the time/resources to do all this. Working on the top floors without a stable ground doesnt make sense to me (since our home can easily crash and we have this bad feeling anytime we walk into the basement). So lets continue cleaning and restructuring the core and maybe others help to build nice things on top of it. If one really wants compatibility he has to invest his (own) time. It's sad that we do have limited resources - but we have to keep the focus. Regarding Omibrowser: maybe it is a nice framework - I dont know. If it is true that it is too limited (multi selections/tree support/...) it should be improved. If that is not possible I think we should not care about OmniBrowser anymore. We should then switch to a minimal implementation of a browser (maybe Nautilus) that helps us build the next gen browsers/tools. So here are two simple questions: - does OmniBrowser support multi selections and trees? - if not can it (easily) be added If both answered with "no" I doubt that we (can) invest more time into it... Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

>>On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Douglas Brebner wrote: >>If I may make a metaphor, it sounds like rebuilding a house from the foundations on up while you're living in it. Things are bound to get unpleasant while it's happening, but it's still worth it in the end. :) Things get very complicated if one start with the roof (tools) and later thinks about a new ground plan with changes in the basement (core). And you cant really get a good home if you design the new ground plan always with compatibility to the broken and misshapend roof... What we currently try is to always work a little bit on the ground floor and update the top floor accordingly (if time permits) If we wouldnt live within this home - we wouldnt care if the roof is covered and rain comes in, we would get the basement right and later build a fashionable roof on top of it. >Stef wrote: >Doing that for real here with three kids :) Doing for real too (with two kids) - but not while living in it (living somewhere else). So you have less dirt and things do not get too much unpleasant since you always have a fallback/save home. To bring it back to Pharo this would mean to boostrap a new home/image from an already working one which is AFAIK also in the pipe... Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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