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[Pharo-project] SmalltalkImage>>#snapshot:andQuit:
by Sven Van Caekenberghe July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Hi (Guillermo), It seems that SmalltalkImage>>#snapshot:andQuit: no longer returns the value of resuming (a Boolean), so that the following in a script to build a new image no longer works: | resuming | resuming := SmalltalkImage current saveAs: 'my-image'. resuming ifFalse: [ Smalltalk snapshot: false andQuit: true ]. Was this intentional ? What is the alternative ? Thx, Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

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[Pharo-project] renggli mirror created on smalltalkhub
by Torsten Bergmann July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Norbert wrote: >Ok, nothing to do here. Thank you, Captain Hindsight! While I enjoy your humor and politeness on one side I really doubt that there is nothing to do here. How often do we face the outage of SqS. And now a private server is yet again gone without an easy restore/access to the backup. It's nice that we can all check our caches to find the mcz's - but is this the backup strategy to go for the future? I provided the ConfigurationBrowser in Pharo to easily load Metacello packages directly from within the image and spend a lot of time checking appropriate configs for the various Pharo versions. On one side we invest in making it easier for people to load packages on the other side it often did not work due to this brickle hosting we currently have. Don't we need a serious discussion and actions on how to get a reliable infrastructure with official mirrors? By providing a prebuilt SqueakSource in the past [1] I hoped the SqS situation will get better when people may setup own servers and we have more and more mirrors on the net. It did not happen. We now know that SqS is the "old way". We currently face decisions what servers to use (SS3, SmalltalkHub, ...) see issue #6093 [2] Now we move to SS3 and SmalltalkHub. Can we answer the question how reliable they are? I like SmalltalkHub a lot. But still it is centralized and if it is down it is down for all. Dont we need answers to the question how independent our infrastructure will be in the future? If it is backuped, mirrored or restorable? Dale proposed mirroring for Metacello [3]. We also have filetree [4] for directory-based Monticello packages enabling the use of Git, SVN, ... allowing us to use more reliable infrastructure like GitHub, ... Should we care? But maybe I should shut up and wait until someone reboots Squeaksource again (which is down today yet again) Bye T. [1] http://astares.blogspot.de/2005/12/squeaksource-server-image.html [1] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6093 [2] http://code.google.com/p/metacello/issues/detail?id=152 [3] https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree

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[Pharo-project] ScriptManager for Pharo 2.0 also with code completion
by Torsten Bergmann July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Note that with the latest update for Pharo 2.0 ([update 2.0] #20185) or the latest one click image https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/lastSuccessf… you can easily load ScriptManager using Tools -> ConfigurationBrowser -> click on "ScriptManager" and select "Install configuration (Stable version)" After loading go to "Tools" -> "ScriptManager" Note that ScriptManager is now using Fuel for exporting/importing which is not compatible with the old ReferenceStream. It now exports into *.fuel files instead of *.obj. Have fun T.

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[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20186
by Marcus Denker July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

20186 ----- Issue 6253: Failing tests: Obsolete classes related to SpotLight http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6253 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] I added a german wikipedia article on pharo.
by Helene Bilbo July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Hi, Pharo was not mentioned on german wikipedia, so i added a stub for an article. If you speak german, please extend it :) (i will try to continue myself the next days) BTW is Pharo rather a 'Programming language' or an 'Implementation of a Programming language'? regards, Helene. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-added-a-german-wikipedia-article-on-pharo-tp4638330… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] git git git
by Camillo Bruni July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

To throw some more oil in the file. This is how versioning will work in Pharo: =================================================================================== 1. I prepared a complete FileSystem representation of all the units in the image - Packages - Classes - Methods 2. Model Resources instead of saving them in CompiledMethod - Packages have resources - Classes have resources - The resources themselves are a complete FileSystem allowing for all normal FS operations - See the attached image for a working prototype 3. Choose a decent, existing, stable versioning system (Since I know GIT it's git) - it must be distributed - it must be stable - it must support lazy loading 4. Supporting versioning of the internal tree structure - copy over the internal tree to the git repos - create a new commit message - upload it to some remote / external / local repository 5. Rewrite .changes file to work on top of a similar structure - cache the changes methods in a local git repos - commit on a regular interval - add support for restoring that 6. Rewrite existing method versions on top of a similar structure - lazily load the versions from a remote git location - hold the sources in a central git repository (much like PharoV10.sources) =================================================================================== I will provide a working prototype within a week, cause this issue is annoying me so much that it makes me feel like a complete retard when using pharo.

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[Pharo-project] Zinc in 1.4
by Sean P. DeNigris July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Sven, What's the best case scenario for Zinc in 1.4? Keep the installed versions? Load stable via the Metacello config? Something else... Thanks, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Zinc-in-1-4-tp4638205.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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July 5, 2012

Hi pharoers Here is so far the state of replies I compiled. If I miss you or misclassified tell me. By end of July I will build a case to ask for INRIA support. So I will refresh this list and group mails to build a convincing case. Pharo2.0 is going in the right direction. With a mini core, vector graphics, ssh, it is starting to be a nice platform for new challenges. Thanks you all for your trust. Stef So far 4000 gold 8000 silver 5000 bronze 500 sponsor 2500 individual plus 480 individual -------------------- 20480 Euros Gold (4000) RMOD 4000 Silver (2000) 2Denker http://www.Synectique.eu Sanders Cameron company 2Rivers 8000 Bronze (1000) Andy bunnett company Eggermont company MAD-Environment www.FinWorks.biz netStyle.ch 5000 Sponsors (500) Caeasar Systems (May be IMUS)?? 500 Indivudual golden (100) Stephane Ducasse Marcus Denker Schmiedl Miguel Coba Alexandre Bergel Krish Brodbeck (may be bronze) Goran Vasic Guillermo Polito Norbert Harlt Mark Smith Lorenzo schiavina Daniel Galdames Leandro Caniglia Francois Stephany Sean De Nigris John O'Keefe Tudor Girba Luc Fabresse Florent Arrignon Lawrence Trutter Sabine Knofel Yann Monclair Henrik Johanssen Hernan Wilkinson (or bronze to be defined) 2500 Normal 40 Bill schwab Herve verjus Damien cassou McLeod Max Leske Phil Back (bronze may be) Yanni Chiu Andrea BrÃ¼hlmann Stefan Reichhart Niklaus Lutz Max Leske Simon Jakovina 480

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[Pharo-project] Magritte 2 or 3
by Serge Stinckwich July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

Hi all, anyone has a copy of the Magritte repository ? I want to do a demo of Magritte. I know that all Lukas repository are down now. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

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[Pharo-project] is PackageDependencyTest used?
by Guillermo Polito July 5, 2012

July 5, 2012

It's a testcase without tests :). Seems to have a template to validate package dependencies... but no subclasses either... And it's in SUnit-Core-Tests :/ For now I'll submit an issue to recategorize it.

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