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Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: About (backwards) Compatibility
by Bert Freudenberg Dec. 24, 2012

Dec. 24, 2012

On 2012-12-23, at 15:39, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 23 December 2012 11:16, Andreas.Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> Igor Stasenko wrote >>> yes, i want string math, because at the end, everything you type into >>> machine is strings, so having objects, classes or compiled methods >>> seems like overcomplication, when you can do the same by just using >>> stings.. >>> We definitely should reconsider "everything is an object" postulate, >>> instead we should postulate "everything is string", >>> otherwise smalltalk will never be a successful platform like >>> javascript/perl etc. >>> >>> oh, yes, and while we're changing that, please add the 'math' precedence >>> rules, >>> because my math teacher is the school told me that this is the only >>> right way they should be processed, >>> oh, and at last, lets use curly braces syntax because it is sooo >>> convenient. >> >> Could you move your trolling attempts to the pharo list please? >> > First. It was not trolling attempt, but sarcasm attempt. :) I thought it was funny :) > Second. The topic was originally from pharo list. > I don't know why people moved discussion it on squeak-dev list. > I just replying. > But thanks for reminder that i am not welcome here anymore. Nah, you are most certainly welcome. Andreas was just misreading you. - Bert -

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[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20453
by Marcus Denker Dec. 24, 2012

Dec. 24, 2012

20453 ----- Issue 7165: CleanUp MethodChangeRecord (preparation) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7165 Issue 7018: move unicode initialization methods to the separate package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7018 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Unicode-Initialization-MarcusDenker.2.di… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Changes-MarcusDenker.195.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Multilingual-TextConversion-MarcusDenker… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Multilingual-Encodings-MarcusDenker.39.d… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1278.diff

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Re: [Pharo-project] A contorted way of making things work :)
by Fernando Olivero Dec. 24, 2012

Dec. 24, 2012

Well, the assignment within the and: block says it allâ¦ Fernando On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > StringMorph>>boundsForBalloon > "Some morphs have bounds that are way too big. This is a contorted > way of making things work okay in PluggableListMorphs, whose list > elements historically have huge widths" > > | ownerOwner | > ^ ((owner notNil and: [(ownerOwner := owner owner) notNil]) and: > [ownerOwner isKindOf: PluggableListMorph]) > ifTrue: > [self boundsInWorld intersect: ownerOwner > boundsInWorld] > ifFalse: > [super boundsForBalloon] > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

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[Pharo-project] producing a .pdf from Pharo
by Alexandre Bergel Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

Hi! I know there has been some discussions related to this, however I could not find anything relevant from google. I have no knowledge about the .pdf format, but I am wondering how feasible is it to export Roassal like visualization [*] in a .pdf? Cheers, Alexandre [*] e.g., http://objectprofile.com/roassal-screenshots.html -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20452
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

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[Pharo-project] KeyChain/UsersManager
by Pavel Krivanek Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

Hi, what is the reason for integration of KeyChain/UsersManager to the image? It created the next kernel dependency. Should it replace Author? Should it be in the Pharo Kernel? And why there was no mention about it in this mailing list before? ;-) Cheers, -- Pavel

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[Pharo-project] Scripts-download job is broken
by Pavel Krivanek Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

Hi, the Project Scripts-download job is broken on the new infrastructure, it simply hangs without any sign it is doing something. It only should clone pharo-build Gittorious repository. On the old infrastructure it works (however the job is failing because of sources download) Any idea? I tried to restrict it from "linux" to "linux64" and comment the sources download but no change. Cheers, -- Pavel

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[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20451
by Marcus Denker Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

20451 ----- Issue 7175: Manifest fixing http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7175 Issue 7172: CompiledMethod #getSource should call #sourceCode http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7172 Issue 7161: MCToolWindowBuilder is not used http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7161 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/MonticelloGUI-MarcusDenker.202.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Manifest-CriticBrowser-MarcusDenker.33.d… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1277.diff

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[Pharo-project] Favorite New Features
by Sean P. DeNigris Dec. 23, 2012

Dec. 23, 2012

Hey guys, what are your favorite features added in 2.0? Please answer at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharo20 There are so many improvements, I've definitely lost track. I remember there were some really useful shortcuts cami or ben showed me, something like cmd-click to browse class... Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Favorite-New-Features-tp4659272.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] About (backwards) Compatibility
by Fernando Olivero Dec. 22, 2012

Dec. 22, 2012

Hi, i wanted to share an "old" quote which i find relevant to our community. Just replace FORTRAN's with loads of stuff we had in the bloated images in the past, most of them useful to get were we are right now. "FORTRAN's tragic fate has been its wide acceptance, mentally chaining thousands and thousands of programmers to our past mistakes. I pray daily that more of my fellow-programmers may find the means of freeing themselves from the curse of compatibility." Dijkstra, The Humble Programmer, 1972

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