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Thank you so much for Pharo 3.0
by Mariano Martinez Peck Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Hi guys, I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0. That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations. Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate. I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast. So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product. Best, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 75f755: 40325
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 75f7550347358cbfd15771a2a2917d1abd433685 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/75f7550347358cbfd15771a2… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-10-24 (Fri, 24 Oct 2014) Changed paths: M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCASTSemanticAnalyzer.class/instance/visitor/visitAssignmentNode_.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCASTSemanticAnalyzer.class/instance/visitor/visitVariableNode_.st A OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractVariable.class/instance/read%2Fwrite usage/isRepeatedWrite.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractVariable.class/instance/read%2Fwrite usage/isWrite.st A OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractVariable.class/instance/read%2Fwrite usage/markRepeatedWrite.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCTempVariable.class/instance/escaping/markEscapingWrite.st A OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCTempVariable.class/instance/escaping/markRepeatedWrite.st A OpalCompiler-Tests.package/OCASTClosureAnalyzerTest.class/instance/tests - blocks/testExampleWhileNoModification.st A OpalCompiler-Tests.package/OCOpalExamples.class/instance/examples-blocks-optimized/exampleWhileNoModification.st A Polymorph-Widgets.package/TickDialogWindow.class/instance/accessing/selectItems_.st A Polymorph-Widgets.package/TickDialogWindow.class/instance/accessing/selectedItems.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script325.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40325.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Spec-Inspector.package/EyeInspector.class/class/tools registry/registerToolsOn_.st M System-Support.package/VirtualMachine.class/instance/attributes/maxExternalSemaphores_.st Log Message: ----------- 40325 14309 add #selectItems: and #selectedItems protocols to TickDialogWindow https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14309 14256 wrong number of tempvars for optimized loops https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14256 10839 VirtualMachine>>#maxExternalSemaphores: has bogus implementation (sort of) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10839 14308 EyeInspector should not register as #basicInspector https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14308 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40325.zip

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/tags/40325 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] b71127: 40324
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b711270b97a40dcf1fb86f659ef8ec3959413391 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b711270b97a40dcf1fb86f65… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-10-24 (Fri, 24 Oct 2014) Changed paths: M FreeType.package/extension/TextStyle/class/emphasisMenuForFont_target_selector_highlight_.st M Keymapping-Settings.package/KMCatcherMorph.class/instance/event handling/showContextMenu.st M Manifest-CriticBrowser.package/CriticBrowser.class/instance/user interface/addModelItemsToWindowMenu_.st M Manifest-CriticBrowser.package/SingleCodeCriticResultList.class/instance/menu/addMarkingMenuItemsTo_.st M Manifest-CriticBrowser.package/SingleCodeCriticResultList.class/instance/menu/addNavigationMenuItemsTo_.st M Manifest-CriticBrowser.package/SingleCodeCriticResultList.class/instance/menu/menu_shifted_.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCSnapshotBrowser.class/instance/menus/categoryListMenu_.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCSnapshotBrowser.class/instance/menus/classListMenu_.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCSnapshotBrowser.class/instance/menus/methodListMenu_.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCSnapshotBrowser.class/instance/menus/protocolListMenu_.st M Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/construction/addTitle_.st M Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/construction/add_target_selector_argumentList_.st M Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/PluggableMenuSpec.class/instance/construction/add_action_.st M Morphic-Base.package/PolygonMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/PolygonMorph.class/instance/menu/addPolyArrowMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/StringMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/TextMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/TransformMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Base.package/extension/Object/instance/addModelYellowButtonMenuItemsTo_forMorph_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/debug and other/buildDebugMenu_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/drop shadows/addDropShadowMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/layout-menu/addLayoutMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/layout-menu/addTableLayoutMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menu/addYellowButtonMenuItemsTo_event_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/addExportMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/addFillStyleMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/addHaloActionsTo_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/addMiscExtrasTo_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/addStandardHaloMenuItemsTo_hand_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/menus/maybeAddCollapseItemTo_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/meta-actions/buildMetaMenu_.st M Morphic-Core.package/PasteUpMorph.class/instance/Morphic-Base-Windows/findWindow_.st M Morphic-Examples.package/ClassListNodeExample.class/instance/accessing/menu_shifted_.st M Morphic-Examples.package/ClassTreeNodeExample.class/instance/accessing/menu_shifted_.st M Morphic-Examples.package/PackageAbstractNodeExample.class/instance/accessing/menu_shifted_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Basic.package/PluggableButtonMorph.class/instance/event handling/addStandardHaloMenuItemsTo_hand_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Basic.package/SimpleButtonMorph.class/instance/menu/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Basic.package/SimpleButtonMorph.class/instance/menu/addLabelItemsTo_hand_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Basic.package/SimpleButtonMorph.class/instance/menu/addTargetingMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Pluggable.package/PluggableListMorph.class/instance/menus/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Tabs.package/Tab.class/instance/private/addRefreshMenuItemOn_.st M Morphic-Widgets-Windows.package/CollapsedMorph.class/instance/menu/buildWindowMenu.st M Morphic-Widgets-Windows.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/menu actions/addCustomMenuItems_hand_.st M Rubric.package/RubFindReplaceDialogWindow.class/instance/user-interface/buildWindowMenu.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - 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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/tags/40324 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/tags/40323 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 42943d: 40323
by GitHub Oct. 24, 2014

Oct. 24, 2014

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 42943d4553340a1cb7474c79cce964b3804cae5f https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/42943d4553340a1cb7474c79… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-10-24 (Fri, 24 Oct 2014) Changed paths: M Kernel.package/CompiledMethod.class/instance/accessing/numLiterals.st M Kernel.package/CompiledMethod.class/instance/accessing/primitive.st A Kernel.package/Context.class/instance/instruction decoding/callPrimitive_.st A Kernel.package/InstructionClient.class/instance/instruction decoding/callPrimitive_.st M Kernel.package/InstructionStream.class/instance/private/interpretExtension_in_for_.st A Kernel.package/SymbolicBytecodeBuilder.class/instance/instruction decoding/callPrimitive_.st M KernelTests.package/BehaviorTest.class/instance/tests/testBehaviorRespectsPolymorphismWithTraitBehavior.st M NewValueHolder.package/NewValueHolder.class/instance/announcements/whenChangedSend_to_.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script323.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40323.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Tool-Finder.package/Finder.class/instance/private-example/computeWithMethodFinder_.st A Tools.package/extension/TBehavior/instance/browse.st R Tools.package/extension/TraitBehavior/instance/browse.st Log Message: ----------- 40323 14297 Kernel fixes for Spur https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14297 14302 Replace Announcer>>#on:send:to:s senders in NewValueHolder https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14302 14291 browse open a class side browser https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14291 14289 MNU in Finder>>computeWithMethodFinder: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14289 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40323.zip

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MetacelloConfigurationBrowserPane
by Sean P. DeNigris Oct. 23, 2014

Oct. 23, 2014

I'm on a roll now ;) [rant] MetacelloConfigurationBrowserPane is another strange bird. The list of available repositories lives here. I guess it started life there before I bugged everyone to make it configurable, but now seems like an odd entry point. Also, the repos are kept and passed around as strings... ewww. Why not at least URLs if not MCXyzs [/rant] ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/MetacelloConfigurationBrowserPane-tp4786323.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Clickable class side example and initialize methods in Pharo 4.0
by Torsten Bergmann Oct. 23, 2014

Oct. 23, 2014

One addition I implemented for Nautilus is that one can run examples directly in the browser just by clicking on class side example methods icons. See https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13892/Example-methods-should-be-runnable-… for a picture. SO PLEASE: WHEN YOU PROVIDE EXAMPLES IN CLASSES PLEASE PUT THEM ON THE CLASS SIDE AND LET THE SELECTOR START WITH "example". This way people will easily see that it is an example and can run them. Additionally it would help to put them into a category like "examples". So be a good citized and provide not only class comments but also examples for others to study. Side note: ========== It is also possible to click on the icon of class side initialize methods so the class get reinitialized (after a confirmation to avoid false clicking). https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13894/Class-side-initialize-methods-shoul… Both issues are already integrated.

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Microframeworks was: Re: Thank you so much for Pharo 3.0
by phil＠highoctane.be Oct. 23, 2014

Oct. 23, 2014

Nice the hear indeed. I miss your posts! Pharo is indeed very stable. Doing everything on 3.0 here. Got a full week of clients demos done, never ever had to touch the server running the app. Even the guy doing the demos told me it never crashed on him (which wasn't that usual apparently). With the command line based tools that are now very doable, this makes for a serious contender. Now, for a bit of thread hijacking... We need to put more care in the datadabase sector, I've been bit by SQLite crashes with WeakRegistry sessions. Good thing is that I was to fix that on my own, which would be close to impossible with other toolchains. That's a key thing about Pharo: being able to debug quite deep and still grasp what's going on. Postgres works too. But APIs are really far apart and some alignment is required... That's a limiting factor for adoption, as DBs are really used in a lot of places. For getting traction, we also need some more quick tools. I like Teapot for example. It looks like close to Flask http://flask.pocoo.org/ Look at how easy it is to bang an app together: https://github.com/mitsuhiko/flask/tree/master/examples/minitwit https://github.com/mitsuhiko/flask/blob/master/examples/minitwit/minitwit.py We should have something like that. In the last hackathon, we go the top apps using this kind of tech. http://www.rtbf.be/info/medias/detail_trois-applications-primees-au-premier… (french ahead)... I was in a team where we enhanced an existing thing (http://noselus.be for the interested). and was bit by SQLite trouble. No issue as I wanted to use Pharo in a new case, namely https://github.com/noselusbe/noselus-etl I believe we could have a Pharo microframework thing where people would not use the browser to code but a single script. Ha! Heretic! A file! Burn him! hum, yeah, but that's what people use and I also have a startup script for my apps. We could use that to "bootstrap people" into Pharo. Instead of a crappy debugger, they can then just pharo-ui Pharo.image and bam, a full IDE with all bells and whistles. How hard would it be to parse such a file with this kind of content? https://github.com/mitsuhiko/flask/blob/master/examples/minitwit/minitwit.py This would generate a WAComponent subclass with methods in it, register the thing and go for it. We can pack JSON support in there as the JsonObject support allows to really load and access Json easily. TIA for your feedback. Phil Phil On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Mariano, > > It is good to hear from you, and it is even better to hear such nice > words. Thanks you ! > > I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate > just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real > world, in other words, to be successful. > > Do we already have your story as a 'success story' for the website ? > > Sven > > > On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years > ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, > and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and > migrated to Pharo 2.0. > > > > That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I > wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never > have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days > ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest > Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it > everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! > Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the > box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and > all existing configurations. > > > > Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and > this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via > mailing list which I very much appreciate. > > > > I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before > that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least > 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot > believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark > Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And > with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that > everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a > fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and > continues to be super fast. > > > > So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have > migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a > great and professional product. > > > > Best, > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > >

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