Thank you so much for Pharo 3.0
Hi guys, I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0. That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations. Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate. I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast. So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product. Best, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Mariano, It is good to hear from you, and it is even better to hear such nice words. Thanks you ! I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real world, in other words, to be successful. Do we already have your story as a 'success story' for the website ? Sven
On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0.
That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations.
Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate.
I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast.
So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product.
Best,
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
2014-10-23 2:40 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>:
I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real world, in other words, to be successful.
This is so true. And it's getting better on every release. Esteban A. Maringolo
Fortunately my experience with people I introduced in pharo has been a lot more positive than your, they were facinated by what Pharo offers and find it very useful, productive and fun environment. Actually one person hated it but he was a big troll so I dont count him in. But none of the people I introduced to Pharo ended keep using it, mainly because they were too tied into other platforms and languages and cant blame them. It took me 1 year to switch from python and I had to redefine the way I was coding and thinking about code. Even though Stef keeps stressing that Pharo does not have the resources of big companies and of course he is correct on other hand we see a clear and steady improvement, I think Pharo is on the right path and will correct many of the mistakes of Smalltalk and eventually bring much more people in. The future is certainly exciting and I am glad I have joined this ride :) Phareos certainly makes my dreams about coding a reality. Thanks to all pharoers for giving us such amazing functionality and working hard and thinking outside the box. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Mariano,
It is good to hear from you, and it is even better to hear such nice words. Thanks you !
I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real world, in other words, to be successful.
Do we already have your story as a 'success story' for the website ?
Sven
On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0.
That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations.
Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate.
I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast.
So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product.
Best,
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
No more to say, a big big THANK YOU for make and continuously improve Pharo and the related infrastructure tools. This is a really big job. I'm always in the path of to show Pharo to my friends and try to use it in my work, and really that's every time more and more easy :) Best regard. 2014-10-23 4:29 GMT-03:00 kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:
Fortunately my experience with people I introduced in pharo has been a lot more positive than your, they were facinated by what Pharo offers and find it very useful, productive and fun environment. Actually one person hated it but he was a big troll so I dont count him in.
But none of the people I introduced to Pharo ended keep using it, mainly because they were too tied into other platforms and languages and cant blame them. It took me 1 year to switch from python and I had to redefine the way I was coding and thinking about code.
Even though Stef keeps stressing that Pharo does not have the resources of big companies and of course he is correct on other hand we see a clear and steady improvement, I think Pharo is on the right path and will correct many of the mistakes of Smalltalk and eventually bring much more people in. The future is certainly exciting and I am glad I have joined this ride :)
Phareos certainly makes my dreams about coding a reality. Thanks to all pharoers for giving us such amazing functionality and working hard and thinking outside the box.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Mariano,
It is good to hear from you, and it is even better to hear such nice words. Thanks you !
I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real world, in other words, to be successful.
Do we already have your story as a 'success story' for the website ?
Sven
On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0.
That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations.
Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate.
I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast.
So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product.
Best,
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Hi, Thanks everyone for making this happen. It's great to hear this kind of reports from real life projects. I am sure that Pharo 4 will be even better! Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gastón Dall' Oglio < gaston.dalloglio@gmail.com> wrote:
No more to say, a big big THANK YOU for make and continuously improve Pharo and the related infrastructure tools. This is a really big job. I'm always in the path of to show Pharo to my friends and try to use it in my work, and really that's every time more and more easy :)
Best regard.
2014-10-23 4:29 GMT-03:00 kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:
Fortunately my experience with people I introduced in pharo has been a lot
more positive than your, they were facinated by what Pharo offers and find it very useful, productive and fun environment. Actually one person hated it but he was a big troll so I dont count him in.
But none of the people I introduced to Pharo ended keep using it, mainly because they were too tied into other platforms and languages and cant blame them. It took me 1 year to switch from python and I had to redefine the way I was coding and thinking about code.
Even though Stef keeps stressing that Pharo does not have the resources of big companies and of course he is correct on other hand we see a clear and steady improvement, I think Pharo is on the right path and will correct many of the mistakes of Smalltalk and eventually bring much more people in. The future is certainly exciting and I am glad I have joined this ride :)
Phareos certainly makes my dreams about coding a reality. Thanks to all pharoers for giving us such amazing functionality and working hard and thinking outside the box.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Mariano,
It is good to hear from you, and it is even better to hear such nice words. Thanks you !
I think that in general, in our day to day struggles, people underestimate just how good Pharo is and how useful it is to do real work in the real world, in other words, to be successful.
Do we already have your story as a 'success story' for the website ?
Sven
On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:15, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I just wanted to share my happiness with you. I joined a team 2 years ago almost to develop a Seaside 3.0 app, using and old Magritte version, and Pharo 1.4. As soon as I started, I created a ConfigurationOfMyApp, and migrated to Pharo 2.0.
That worked fine for almost 2 years. Since several weeks/months, I wanted to update to new Seaside versions and Pharo. Of course, you never have time, there are always other problems to fix first, etc...But 10 days ago, I stopped everything, and I migrated to Seaside 3.1.3, latest Magritte, latest Bootstrap (very very cool project too...we are using it everywhere), latest everything...and... of course...Pharo 3.0!!! Also..the "port" was almost nothing...everything almost worked out of the box. Thanks to contributors maintaining great softwares like Metacello and all existing configurations.
Btw...I am also deploying my app in GemStone since almost an year, and this also is being good. Gemstone people also have a great support via mailing list which I very much appreciate.
I played with Pharo 3.0 when it was released and some time also before that. But not that much. Now..I am using the very same image since at least 10 days. Working full time. All my projects are working great. I cannot believe so good it feels developing in Pharo 3.0. I am using the great Dark Theme from Esteban. Everything is super fast, super nice, super stable. And with my 2.0 images..they always grew too much (up to 500MB), that everything started to be very very slow. I needed to start again with a fresh image, etc. This 3.0 image has almost the same size as I started and continues to be super fast.
So...I cannot repeat myself how good Pharo 3.0 feels. I should have migrated long ago. Thanks all the contributors and developers for such a great and professional product.
Best,
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
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Esteban A. Maringolo -
Gastón Dall' Oglio -
kilon alios -
Mariano Martinez Peck -
Sven Van Caekenberghe -
Tudor Girba