February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] How to cook Mr Popatoe Process?
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

Hi guys we have practically two solutions to cook a troll: - either I remove his email address from the list (2 min) a bit rude and unfriendly but this is a troll after all ;) - or we all create a nice rule: as Read I suggest you all to do 2 and keep you good energy for helping and not arguing endless with Mr Potatoe Process. Did you count the amount of time we all spent already on that? Have fun. Stef (I have my rule and I do not read such mail anymore).

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[Pharo-project] Pharo VM
by Pavel Krivanek Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

Hi Stef, last year you mentioned that in January you want to brand our own VM. Is there any progress in this area? Will there be still two VMs (Cog and Stack)? Will we have own git repository? Cheers, -- Pavel

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Re: [Pharo-project] Why do we use Pharo? a.k.a. rethinking Pharo marketing
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

On Feb 21, 2012, at 3:11 AM, Krishsmalltalk wrote: > Yes, > > Do not emphasize on one or few keywords. Malleable is better than plastic (can be off putting for any environment conscious) > > Adopt the Pharo motto: > > "Pharo shall be one of the best enterprise platform in 3 years." Isn't "Enterprise Plattform" another word for "boring and complicated" ?? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] syntax error in StartupLoader script
by Ben Coman Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

When using the following StartupLoader script StartupLoader default executeAtomicItems: { StartupAction name: 'Shared Package Cache' code: [ MCCacheRepository default directory setPathName: 'C:\Apps\Smalltalk\!Shared-Package-Cache'.]. }. I was getting a "syntax error in startup" that I could not identify (is it obvious to others?) This was due to the debugger not opening at the point of error since SmalltalkImage>>executeDeferredStartupActions catches the errors. So I hacked this as follows... deferredStartupActions do: [:each | [ each cull: resuming ] value. "btcdebug on: Halt do: [ :err| Smalltalk logError: '==== Startup Error: ', err description inContext: err signalerContext. errors add: err]"]. and then after a quit and restart the dialog "Syntax error: Unmatched string quote" appeared with... StartupLoader default executeAtomicItems: { StartupAction name: 'Shared Package Cache' code: [ MCCacheRepository default directory setPathName: _Unmatched string quote_ -> 'C:\Apps\Smalltalk\ So after removing "!" from the folder name the syntax error went away. So now a few questions... 1. Is there a simpler way to debug the startup scripts that I have missed? If not, can a StartupLoader>>test or similar be implemented which runs the same as at image start time but without the error catching in executeDeferredStartupActions, rather than needing to hack executeDeferredStartupActions as I did. 2. Is it reasonable to set a shared package cache in the startup like I have? Or are there some obvious problems with this that I don't see? I would like to avoid downloading all packages every time unzip a fresh image for testing. 3. Is the invalid "!" fixable (though of course I've worked around it)? I'll open any required bug entries. This was with Pharo-14333 / cogwin_r2522.zip / Windows 7. cheers, -ben

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[Pharo-project] Bug Tracker Status
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

Reports for 1.3: 13 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone%3D1.3 Reports for 1.4: 66 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone%3D1.4 All Reports: 467 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Helene Bilbo wrote: > > Hilaire Fernandes wrote >> >> Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating >> System. >> DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. >> http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video >> > > Looks very intriguing! I hope there will soon be an AndroidVM on Jenkins. > Yes, we now have a 64 bit linux slave running: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/computer/pharo-build-64/ (happily already taking a share of the load of building normal projects) Getting the Android build there is the next step. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14347
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

14347 ----- Issue 5348: simplify #cleanUpForRelease a little http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5348 Issue 5347: StartupPreferences has no repository attached http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5347 Issue 5346: FlatMessageListBrowser send error when a menu action is selected when no item is selected http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5346 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Netstyle experience (was Do not feed the trolls)
by Guido Stepken Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

Am 22.02.2012 10:36 schrieb "Christoph Wysseier" <c.wysseier(a)netstyle.ch>: ... Yes, agreed so far. There is another new technology upcoming: WebGL. On my Nexus the Google Chrome browser *is* a WebGL app itself. Thereunder the V8 Javascript interpreter, which internally creates metaclasses e.t.c. The two core developers were Smalltalkers! :-) What can we expect from Google Chrome? Separation of Browser and JavaScript interpreter, the interpreter then resides on the server, sending OpenGL directly via websockets into the dumb OpenGL terminal. And Google Chrome interpreter also has some (new) programming languages under the hood, Smalltalk included. C++ interpreter already works. Have fun, Guido Stepken Attatched screenshots from Samsung Nexus.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14346
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

14346 ----- Issue 5345: Duplicated code in FlatMessageLIstBrowser http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5345 Issue 5188: Fast Drag doesnt work anymore http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5188 Issue 5344: Refactor in CheckboxMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5344 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Proposal: coverage tests
by Marcus Denker Feb. 22, 2012

Feb. 22, 2012

On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > That is just AMAZINGLY COOL. I cannot believe we can do that in 5 lines of code. WOW. But -> it is interpreted -> it is very low level Now imagine we would have instead of bytecode the a high level AST *and* a way to extend a runtime compiler infrastructure at runtime... With that you can do it in less lines, and even very trivally :-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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