August 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Redirect CI link
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Anyone able to redirect "http://ci.pharo-project.org" from old hudson https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/ to new Jenkins https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/ Would also be nice if "bugs.pharo-project.org" would point to the issue tracker as well (similar to "issues.pharo-project.org") Thanks T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 and 1.4 status update
by laurent laffont Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Here's a Pharo status update: http://www.pharo-project.org/news Please review. Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

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[Pharo-project] Why MC when you copying a package doing too much things?
by Igor Stasenko Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

If you look how MC copies package from remote repository to package-cache dir, you will find out , that it: - reads and parses all definitions from source package - and then writes all these definitions into a new file while instead it could just simply copy the contents of existing file to the directory and that's it. This actually explains why uploading VMMaker to squeaksource takes ages (and most of the times time outs), simply because on server we have this unnecessary load of read-deserialize-serialize-write cycle while it could be just read-write (copying). I think we could make it faster by copying and then parsing only the necessary parts of package, like commit log and ancestry information, but not parsing the whole package contents. Another approach is of course to split bloated VMMaker package into parts.. but the problem is that for building VMs there's already too many stuff there.. for example look at the configuration of cog: package: 'FFI-Pools' with: 'FFI-Pools-eem.3'; package: 'SharedPool-Speech' with: 'SharedPool-Speech-dtl.2'; package: 'Balloon-Engine-Pools' with: 'Balloon-Engine-Pools-JB.2'; package: 'Alien-Core' with: 'Alien-Core-IgorStasenko.68'; package: 'Sound' with: 'Sound-StephaneDucasse.62'; package: 'VMConstruction-Plugins-OSProcessPlugin' with: 'VMConstruction-Plugins-OSProcessPlugin.oscog-eem.31'; package: 'Freetype-Plugin' with: 'Freetype-Plugin-IgorStasenko.61'; package: 'ObjectiveC-Plugin' with: 'ObjectiveC-Plugin-John M McIntosh.20'; package: 'Cog' with: 'Cog-eem.45'; package: 'VMMaker-oscog' with: 'VMMaker-oscog-IgorStasenko.122'; package: 'Qwaq-VMProfiling-Plugins' with: 'Qwaq-VMProfiling-Plugins-JB.5'; package: 'Applescript-Core' with: 'Applescript-Core-SeanDeNigris.2'; package: 'CMakeVMMaker' with: 'CMakeVMMaker-IgorStasenko.136' ]. but i think we can deal with it nicely. Anyways, i think we should consider splitting VMMaker, because it goes nowhere. For Cog VMMaker , i think we could remove an Interpreter class, which can make a package like 20% smaller, without any need of refactoring and dependency rewiring. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Deep into Smalltalk School video
by Mariano Martinez Peck Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

+1. It was great and it would be very nice to have it. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > I heard at ESUG that the "Deep into Smalltalk School" course was recorded. > It > sounded very interesting. Will that be made available publicly? > > Thanks. > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Deep-into-Smalltalk-School-video-tp3778561p3778561.ht… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 release
by Marcus Denker Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:21 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Nice and clear info. The only thing that I see left that may be confusing is > the ci shortcut on the home page. Since there are currently two ci servers, > I think the ci link should take you to another page explaining the > difference and where they're headed. > > > Is hudson will be dropped or will stay around ? > Hudson will be discontinued at some point. But we need to move everything Jenkins before. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 release
by Marcus Denker Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:48 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:52 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: > > > > > 1.2 is for download on the site, 1.3 is listed on the site with no links, and 1.4 is discussed on the mailing list. I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Pharo, which version is being actively developed and maintained, which one to use, etc. It is very frustrating. So what's the deal with the Pharo "roadmap" ? > > > > > > Pat > > > > situation is really simple > > 1.3 is in post release candidate mode. > > we should build the one click distribution, update the web site and announce it > > > > > > I can update the website when you tell me. > > > > Laurent. > > thanks laurent > > could you add a little info and a link on the latest 1.3 release candidate? > > > Yes. I've tried but I'm stupid I don't know how to add a blog post on cmsbox :) I'm waiting Adrian answer but maybe one of you know ? > I would not do a blog post but just put infos on http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-3 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] SCG Unibe CH Smalltalk Course
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Hi, I recently discovered the slides (and exercises) of a Smalltalk course from the University of Bern: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/st/ I find these very well done: they are beautiful, have really great, advanced content, very impressive. Thanks. I think these could certainly be interesting for others too. Sven PS: Is this course still taught ?

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[Pharo-project] SCG Unibe CH Smalltalk Course
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote on Pharo list: > I recently discovered the slides (and exercises) of a Smalltalk course from the University of Bern: > > http://scg.unibe.ch/download/st/ Yes, nice intro to Smalltalk and Pharo, VM technology and true dynamic languages. Max Leske wrote: >I guess, the course in the form of those slides, however, is dead. Sad - maybe it could be redone one time again and recorded with a cam to provide an online ST/Pharo course based on this material. Would IMHO be nice for http://www.pharocasts.com and the pharo website and help to grow the visibility of Smalltalk (and the Uni Bern of course). The HPI Potsdam also already provides some Smalltalk related material on http://tele-task.de (for instance a keynote by Alan Kay) and a complete online Smalltalk video demo course would be cool! Any ideas if this could be made possible? Bye T. -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurÃ¼ck-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

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[Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4
by Sean P. DeNigris Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Does anyone have OB working in 1.4? Thanks. Sean (On an extended vacation in Edinburgh for most of the week thanks to hurricane Irene) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-in-1-4-tp3774180p3774180.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] Got network sockets working in Android Cog
by Dimitry Golubovsky Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

Hi, I got network sockets to work in my Android port of CogVM with PharoCore-13137 image. I made changes to the logic of aioPoll so that it just checks on all handles once and returns if no I/O operations are ready without any looping, otherwise calls all relevant I/O handlers and returns. aioPoll is called as part of ioProcessEvents. I am able to open Monticello repos, download packages, merge, see diffs etc. Socket tests mostly succeeded, 2 failed. One for https (I did not investigate yet how to use SSL in Android NDK, so no surprise it does not work); another is NetNameResolverTest>>testLocalHostName (also failed on PC as I just checked so there is something non-related to Android). I am trying to run the "Software update" item on Pharo. It seems to progress, but very slowly (partly because Squeaksource is very slow from the US). Not sure how long it may take, but I'll try to get it to complete ;) Anyway, this is another step towards release. I have currently these plugins compiled in: BitBltSimulation "BitBltPlugin" BalloonEnginePlugin "B2DPlugin" FileCopyPlugin FilePlugin FloatArrayPlugin FloatMathPlugin JoystickTabletPlugin JPEGReaderPlugin RePlugin SecurityPlugin JPEGReadWriter2Plugin SocketPlugin MiscPrimitivePlugin DeflatePlugin "ZipPlugin" The plugin choice was mostly arbitrary, beyond those really necessary (Balloon Engine, Socket, etc.) What other plugins are worth adding and testing before I start preparing for the release? Thanks. -- Dimitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web

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