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[Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1
by Torsten Bergmann May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

Did you see: http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/12/access-database-through-odbc.html -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

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[Pharo-project] Recent changes on Pharo 1.3: ObjectStringConverter donÂ´t works like ObjectTransformedStringConverter
by nullPointer May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

I see now a change on Pharo 1.3 in the way for configure a text field for accept only numeric values. Before I configure a text field of that way: aNumericTextField converter: ((ObjectTransformedStringConverter forClass: Integer) transformBlock: [:s | s select: [:c | c isDigit]] ). That allow input only numeric chars. Now I see the change of class ObjectStringConverter and I try: aNumericTextField converter: ObjectStringConverter new configureForIntegers. but donÂ´t works. Somebody knows what happens? Regards -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Recent-changes-on-Pharo-1-3-ObjectStringConverter-don… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] What is Configuration? (was: Re: [squeak-dev] Personalized systems with Treated)
by Chris Muller May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

> Chris. Metacello scripts are object specs and to me this is just great because they are objects > and with objects we can do a lot. Checking, transforming...... So of course hacking a little script is fast and > Metacello requires some care but I can tell you that for us this is **hyper** important (and not just > as some person may think because we like complex stuff - because this is plain wrong) > because Metacello are first class ***objects*** scripts. I am an objectician almost to a fault. I tend to want to solve every problem with a object model. Everyone knows I love objects. But I also view software as a _means_ not an end. A means to do something in the real world that I want done. In this case, I simply want to do Configuration. Configuration is not just about loading packages; it's about _configuring_ a system. It's about taking a VM + Legacy-Image and configuring it to do something practical in the real-world. If "Legacy-Image" is our dream super-stripped 1MB Spoon type of image; an image with just a Compiler and no MC or any tools, and I want to configure it for an embedded system, then this is where the Smalltalk-rubber hits the road: The person developing this type system will be configuring THAT image with a config-file, not an object-model. VM + Legacy-Image + config-file (config-file is just a .st, .sar, or anything else that can be interpreted by the Legacy-Image). Using an object-model in this case is counterproductive because just to be able to _interpret_ that (Metacello) object model, you have to load a gazillion packages into the image which is targeted to be embedded, just to "do" the configuring. This is why I think a "catalog of configuration files" is appropriate; so that the existence of this type of system can be documented alongside the existence of all other kinds of systems including Metacello-managed ones. Whether someone wants to bring Metacello into their life to do package management is their personal choice. But that is separate from having their application listed in The Catalog of ALL available Squeak (and, I hope, Pharo) titles in one place, regardless of whether they use Metacello or any other specific technology. - Chris

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Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1
by sourav roy May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

Great...Thanks for the info...This will really help me in exploring Smalltalk.RegardsSourav | Bangalore | India Original message From:"Serge Stinckwich"< serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com >Date: 6 May 11 12:59:30Subject: Re: [Pharoproject] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1To: Pharoproject(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; Sudhakar Krishnamachari Hi Sourav,I think you need also to connect to Indian Smalltalkers. There aresome at Bengalore.I hope to visit them some day soon.Have a look at the indian Smalltalk mailinglist here:http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/smalltalkindia/You could also contact Skrish (in CC).Regards,On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:05 PM, sourav roywrote:>> Hi All,>> Can any one explain me how to establish an ODBC connection in> PharoSmalltalk and Database programming (Any document or explanation).>> Thanks&Regards>> Sourav | Bangalore | India>> Dear pharoproject ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!>> Dear pharoproject ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! Se rge StinckwichUMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, VietnamEvery DSL ends up being Smalltalkhttp://doesnotunderstand.org/Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!

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Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry
by sourav roy May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

HI All,I really got lost into this thread and was blown by the conversation which took place here ;). but i feel good as this has led people to think about the need for a serious documentation. And i feel it will be much welcome by the newbies to Smalltalk and will help in popularizing it.Regards,Sourav | Bangalore | India Original message From:"Nicolas Cellier"< nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com >Date: 6 May 11 15:37:49Subject: Re: [Pharoproject] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software IndustryTo: Pharoproject(a)lists.gforge.inria.frGuys, this is crazy, this is a runaway thread ;)Please, please, a bit more empathy for newcomers would not hurt:change the subject in such cases.Welcome to Sourav, don't be afraid to ask this list for anything obscure.and congratulations to Toon for initial answer.Nicolas2011/5/6 StÃ©phane Ducasse :> Ok if some good souls want to give a try to generate html.>> Stef>>>>> Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex.>> Any ideas?>>>> I've used latex2html several years ago.>>>> +1 for html>>>> Laurent.>>>>>>>> >>>> Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system?>> >>>> Or a bug fix?>> >>>> I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help.>> >>> No need to get into a catfight here :)>> >>>> >> No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help?>> >>>> >>> I do agree with Stefan, as well as with you that we could help; but I'm unaware of a good documentation effort outside of the image to start with. Camillo's website project might be the best effort I've seen until now; but then I didn't really look either. Maybe I missed some great website?>> >>>> >> If this is just to spit out class comment on html I do not call that a documentation.>> >> Now we can take the book contents and generate html>> >> We have 350 pages in the first book and the same in the second one.>> >> People are free to join and write o ne or two chapters.>> >>> > StÃ©phane,>> >>> > Of course you are right: wining/complaining doesn't help, only action does. We need more people like Laurent focusing on documentation.>> >>> > I for one think that the well written, high quality books that exist (PBE, Seaside Book) are *very valuable*, much better than confusing wiki site (although these have their place as well).>> >>> > But the other point is: in most other popular languages, what current, young developers do, when they get an error that they don't understand is copy/paste the literal text in Google and in a surprisingly large number of cases you find some real answers in the first page.>> >>> > This is also related to popularity of course.>> >>> > Sven>>>>>>>>>Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!

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[Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3
by Alain_Rastoul May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

Hi, I have a changeset to fix most tests -all except one at this time- of Nile, most of the red tests are the same errors related to NewParagraph, NSTranscripter, so the changeset is very small but I don't the procedure to submit a fix ? Do I add a comment to the issue at code.google with the attached changeset ? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4051 Do someone review the code (as I am new to Pharo and don't know much of Nile , Transcripter ) ? Do someone - ... who? ... - incorporate the changeset in the sources of the package ? TIA Alain

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[Pharo-project] Making cr to autocomplete as well as tab (in Pharo 1.3)
by Igor Stasenko May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

Hi, i just found inconvenient that for autocompletion i should press tab all the time while i tend to always hit enter, which instead of pasting suggestion, inserts cr into text. So i hacked a lil piece of code to make autocompletion to insert suggested text when you pressing either tab or cr -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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[Pharo-project] Preferred way of removing slice from Inbox
by laurent laffont May 6, 2011

May 6, 2011

Hi, Once a SLICE is integrated in PharoCore, how do you remove it from PharoInbox ? Laurent

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[Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry
by sourav roy May 5, 2011

May 5, 2011

Hi All,I have just started my career in Software/IT industry and got into a project which involes enhancement/maintainance of product built in Smalltalk.I was never exposed to this language before and have no idea if it is used in the Industry as popularly as JAVA and .NET and looks like its a DEADlanguage for the industry. I may be wrong but i need some clarification about it. I just want to know that why smalltalk is not so popular as the other OOPs Languages and what is the future prospect of one if he/she is into Smalltalk development.Looking for some positive note so that it may give me some entho for working with Smalltalk. Thanks&Regards, Sourav RoyGet Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13183
by laurent laffont May 5, 2011

May 5, 2011

13183 ----- Issue #4132: - LongTest are run by default (so they will be run by Hudson) - Add a setting in System / Run Long Test to enable / disable them - Comment Laurent

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