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[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11413
by Marcus Denker Sept. 9, 2010

Sept. 9, 2010

11413 ----- Issue 1068: Mac: Quit from host menu not working anymore Issue 2844: String>>#numArgs is broken Issue 2711: SmartRefStream (and hence also ImageSegment) are broken due to missing #convertToCurrentVersion:refStream: -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] How to install Glorp
by GermÃ¡n Arduino Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

Hi Squeakers and Pharoers: Even when I saw several mails about the topic, I failed to install Glorp properly, on Squeak (4.1) and also on Pharo (4.1). No matter what method I try, or which Glorp .mcz, I allways get the attached error, referencing some weird oracle thing. I'm new to Glorp, I might be forgetting something obvious, but in any case, any help is appreciated Thanks. -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

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[Pharo-project] A thought about the fear of not knowing
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

Hi Pharoers, lurkers, users We repeat all over the same: we welcome you to participate and while we are cool and welcoming, you feel "oh I cannot, I do not know, this is complex..." You look at us like Gurus, but let us be clear, we are not, we are just common people that have a debugger, kids in the bed and good music in the background (for me Cool Jazz or Thrash Metal). Of course some parts of the system are ugly, buggy, britlle, messy... but less and less, more and more good abstractions are taking life AND!!!! First, we are all learners and newbie on something (at least the mortal among us) but to learn we should start somewhere Second, start small - we tag some bug entries as easy, give a try. - put a break point in the code - write a test - do something fun You will not fail, why? because either you do not find anything and there is no problem but you will learn something and you can pass to the next one. Or you find something and you got it :) We did that with marcus when we were squeak harvesters. There were a lot of things we could not get but we pass to the next. :) Now I browse bugs bugs and bugs and I can tell you that 85% of the bugs are terribly stupid. Even more. So focus on these ones :) Pharo is the system we (you and us) will build. Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Metacello ESUG 2010 topics for discussion/decision
by Dale Henrichs Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

Stef, I mention this in a Pharo thread but, In GemStone the Transcript entries are also added to the Object log, so the Object log has a long term collection of Transcript entries ... the key would be that Transcript entries should be automatically included in the logging scheme ... so that application code can continue to use the Transcript ... Dale stephane ducasse wrote: > + 1 > If someone could look at simpleLog (because we ned to change this situation) > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Simon Denier wrote: > >> I have no idea whether this issue has been discussed before, and perhaps even solved, but is there an easy way to configure Metacello logging? Right now in Pharo, it goes into the Transcript, and consequently mixes with Compiler warning and other stuff. When we load ConfigurationOfMoose, there are so many items in the Transcript that we lost the first ones. We have to hack the Transcript to dump the interesting info into a file. >> >> >> On 7 sept. 2010, at 21:00, Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >>> I've done a search through the Pharo and Metacello mailing lists (and my memory ... but only a little of that:) for open issues on Metacello and I've put together the following list: >>> >>> - #pharo1.0, #pharo1.1, #pharo1.2 attributes >>> - Pharo1.0/Pharo1.1/Pharo1.2 version management >>> - Metacello for updating pharo core configuration >>> - ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser differences across versions >>> >>> - Pharo Metacello Universes >>> (http://forum.world.st/ANN-Pharo-Metacello-Universes-td2313088.html#a2313088) >>> (http://forum.world.st/ANN-Pharo-Metacello-Universes-td2313088i20.html#a2327…) >>> (http://forum.world.st/Managing-Pharo-external-packages-with-Metacello-pleas…) >>> - AbstractMetacelloConfiguration >>> (http://forum.world.st/How-can-I-load-metacello-without-OB-td2332353.html#a2…) >>> >>> - default convention >>> (http://forum.world.st/default-convention-td2316783.html#a2316783) >>> - programmatic spec creation >>> (http://forum.world.st/OO-Specs-td2328587.html#a2328587) >>> - OS dependency >>> (http://forum.world.st/Loading-platform-specific-code-td2318610.html#a2335791) >>> - Gofer Project Loader >>> (http://forum.world.st/ANN-Gofer-Project-Loader-1-0-BETA-td1596389i20.html#a…) >>> >>> These issues stand out for me, since I need some whiteboard time to wrap my brain around the requirements and then discuss potential solutions. >>> >>> I would hope that we can find time at ESUG for discussing these issues and making decisions on as many of the issues as possible (or at least plans of action)... >>> >>> If anyone else has issues that they think haven't been adequately covered, now would be a good time to bring up the issue (again) for discussion at ESUG ... if you aren't attending ESUG, refreshing the issue for consideration by those who are present is still a good idea. >>> >>> Dale >> -- >> Simon >> >> >> >

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[Pharo-project] Hudson
by Sean P. DeNigris Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

Would someone give a brief summary of how Hudson is being used by Pharo? (I googled and have a general understanding of what Hudson is) Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hudson-tp2531857p2531857.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12126
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

After this little breaks in integration I feel another wave of good fixes before ESUG :) At ESUG I'm in the mood to have regular hacking sessions will be fun. 12126 ----- - Issue 2918: Category inconsistency in ClassDescription. Thanks Nicolas Paez. - Issue 2882: recategorize Magnitude>> max: min:,.... Thanks Jaayer - Issue 2877: remove all methods that are equally defined in superclass. Thanks Marcus Denker. - Issue 2909: BehaviorTest is dependent on Morphic. Thanks Pavel Krivanek. - Issue 2884: TComparable. Thanks Jaayer Stef

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[Pharo-project] Issue reported: Category inconsistency in ClassDescription
by NicolÃ¡s Paez Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

I have added a new issue to the tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2918 Description: If you browse the ClassDescription class you will find two different categories that I think conceptually are the same: filein/out and fileIn/Out (just a casing difference). Regards Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com

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Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book
by Schwab,Wilhelm K Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

Stef, Noury, Thanks for doing this, and for the preview! Sometimes being a good friend means getting tough, and it's time for that. You are doing a great job of writing up how to create poorly designed socket applications. They are poorly designed because of what we inherit from Squeak. Servers should not listen for a time period; they need to listen until told otherwise, and trigger events (notifications if preferred) when a client tries to connect, at which point a dedicated process accepts the connection - that process more or less is the server. Clients should try to connect and read until told otherwise, either by a watchdog thread or by a user. Nothing should block in either case except the calling Smalltalk Process. If a client program does not hang because of a non-responsive server, an interacting user has the opportunity to hit a cancel button and put an end to wasted effort, or a watchdog can run and similarly #erminate the offending thread. IMHO, we should not direct energy at documenting the current state of sockets; we should do the few remaining things to get something that really works. At the same time, we should try as much as possible to allow IrDA and OpenSSL to appear as options. Bill ________________________________________ From: stephane ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:50 PM To: Schwab,Wilhelm K Subject: Fwd: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book Begin forwarded message: > From: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Date: August 29, 2010 11:09:50 PM GMT+02:00 > To: DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book >

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12125
by stephane ducasse Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

12125 ----- - Issue 2778: Replace ParagraphEditor by TextEditor and SmalltalkEditor. Thanks Guillermo Polito. Now we should fix the menus :) Stef

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[Pharo-project] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b7
by John M McIntosh Sept. 8, 2010

Sept. 8, 2010

I've stuck a version (5.8b7) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder. Please ensure drawing looks sane, and how it interacts with the mouse and keyboard seems viable. http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b7.app.zip I finished the open/GL tuning and based on benchmarking I simplified the explicit flush required when a Smalltalk Morphic draw cycle fails to do a flush. Lastly I cross check the source code to ensure it compiles correctly for the iOS platform. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

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