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[Pharo-project] Getting Pharo 1.1 from PharoCore 1.1
by Alexandre Bergel April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Mariano, the method unregisterOpenCommand: does not exist in 1.1. The method DEVImageCreator>>cleanOpenMenu raises a DNU. DEVImageCreator is used to produce Pharo. Cheers, Alexandre NB: Shall I send these email as private or is it okay on the mailing list? Is there anyone working on packaging Pharo 1.1? -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Putting Algernon and WorkingSet in a Dev image
by Mariano Martinez Peck April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Mariano - I see that you have been working on Algernon - I haven't use > Pharo that much (not Squeak to be honest - but I remember trying one of > Damien's dev images that had Algernon and I thought it was pretty cool, and > quite helpful for getting up to speed with Pharo). > > Me too. That's why I suggested to include it again in PharoDev 1.1 when this is done. > Anyway - I am not sure how to get it running? Do I need a 1.1 image > > - or will it work in 1.0? > I don't know 1.1. For the moment I use 1.0 > Do I load the ConfigurationOfAlgernon - and then should it work? > yes, try: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfAlgernon'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAlgernon) project version: '0.9.1') load does it work ? > When I do this - Shift-Return doesn't work (nor control-space). If I browse > monticello for just Algnernon, I see there is a later version of Algernon, > but if I load that I seem to get a walkback about a hand not understanding > something. > > Do you have any tips to get me going? And is it possible to update the > Squeaksource text to help newbies like me get going? > > At some point, the welcome workspace was opened once after installing it. I don't know why it dissapear. Should we put it again ? Evaliuate 'Algernon openWelcomeWorkspace' Cheers mariano > Tim > > On 16 Jan 2010, at 23:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Mariano, >> >> From a cursory look, it seems that it would be enough. I'll try to find >> some time next week to make a version that works using this infrastructure. >> >> > Cool !! Let me know so that we can integrate this change in PharoCore and > ask other people for the impact it can bring. I am not sure about that. Do > you know? > > > Cheers, >> Romain >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> Hi guys: Of course I would like having keymapper or similar working in >> Pharo, but as I always say, I rather go step by step. >> >> Last night, I was up to 2 am trying to get this working. I was almost >> there, but as I don't know everything about Morphic, I ask to you. >> >> What Simon said about the binary changeset of Algernon, is true. However, >> I took the time to analyze the changeset and from my point of view (nil >> knowledge in Morphic) it seemed a very good change. I fix it (it has >> underscore assignment) and I was easily merged to Pharo. No conflicts. The >> main change does the simplest modifications to HandMorph for it to support >> various focus holders. And I think this is cool. >> >> So, suppose we integrate this changeset, Algernon, wouldn't have any >> override the method sendKeyboardEvent: >> >> Now Romain, do you think that you can manage to get WorkingSet working >> with this change without overriding? Algernon does, so maybe we can see how >> it do it. I saw this: Algernon >> registerWithSystem >> >> There you will see it does a self activeHand addAdditionalKeyboardFocus: >> self. >> >> That method was part of the Morphic changes. >> >> I commit the Mprhic changes in http://www.squeaksource.com/MarianoPhD >> >> Name: Morphic-MarianoMartinezPeck.396 >> Author: MarianoMartinezPeck >> Time: 16 January 2010, 3:42:18 pm >> UUID: 3587e1b2-36b4-4751-bcdb-ca6f4073788e >> Ancestors: Morphic-MarianoMartinezPeck.395 >> >> Romain, can you take a look and if this is not enough, how can we solve >> easily this problem in Pharo? >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> >> 2010/1/15 Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr> >> >>> >>> On 15 janv. 2010, at 23:03, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/1/15 Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr> >>> >>>> >>>> On 15 janv. 2010, at 21:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes it has overrides ... >>>>> >>>>> that's because as far as I know, there's no keyboard shortcut >>>>> management facility >>>>> in Pharo. If there was one, I suppose Algernon and WorkingSet would >>>>> coexist. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So...all your overrides are due to the shortcuts? I think it is not >>>> fear to "forbid" a package to be included in a Dev image if we don't provide >>>> from the core a way to manage shortcuts. So: >>>> >>>> 1) Or we let this projects to be installed in the Dev image >>>> >>>> 2) We fix the problem with the shortcuts. >>>> >>>> Romain: can you tell us where exactly the problem is ? maybe someone can >>>> give you a hand. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Taking a look at that, there are 2 overrides in WorkingSet >>>> >>> >>> >>> How did you detect that ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Manually, using an extension-aware browser (O2Package, MC browse package, >>> or the package environment) to detect extensions, then check history in the >>> versions browser. >>> >>> >>> >>> Impressive. You should be a detective :) >>> >>> >>> >>> A few years ago, I was called the human debugger during a project :) Now >>> I try to restrain from this kind of sessions though, it's time consuming. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> -- >> Romain Robbes >> http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/robbes >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

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[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfVMMaker version: '1.4' with Alien
by laurent laffont April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Hi, I've created ConfigurationOfVMMaker version 1.4 which now includes Alien plugin. I've tested the build on Linux, plugin is built and loaded. Note you have to choose between NewsqueakIA32ABIPlugin or NewsqueakIA32ABIPluginAttic. (Still have no answer on which one is the "right" one), the VM won't build if both are selected. If you use Linux there's an updated version of easy_squeakvm. So you just have to wget http://github.com/lolgzs/easy_squeakvm/blob/alien/easy_squeakvm.sh ./easy_squeakvm.sh drink a coffee (very important) and your VM with Alien should be here. Alien SUnit tests crash the image on my machine. AlienOpenGL tests fails while trying to load 'OpenGL.Framework'. So if someone know how to test it, what to check, thanks for help ! (already asked on vm-dev mailing list) Cheers, Laurent Laffont

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[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo
by Torsten Bergmann April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Alexandre wrote: >This triggered many loads, to end with an error: 'Name not found: >ArchiveViewer'. I got this error when trying to build a complete app image for MetaSource from a 1.0 core image using an own ConfigurationOfMetaSource that internally used the ConfigurationOfPharo. Dont know what changed on ConfigurationOfPharo, since it worked in the past... see http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-April/025757.html Got no response so far. What I found interesting is that I was able to build a 1.0 dev-image from a 1.0 core image when I use the config directly. But not when I use it in another configuration (ConfigurationOfMetaSource in this case). I'm still puzzled.... Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

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[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo
by Alexandre Bergel April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Hi! I am curious to see how Pharo1.1 can be produced from Core1.1. I loaded ConfigurationOfPharo from MetacelloRepository, and evaluated in a workspace: ConfigurationOfPharo project This triggered many loads, to end with an error: 'Name not found: ArchiveViewer'. I removed the reference of ArchiveViewer in the baseline. I then had to do some modifications: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Getting Pharo 1.1 from PharoCore 1.1 - add <worldMenu> in: SHWorkspace class>>open - changed asSortedArray into "asArray sort" OBMetagraphBuilder>>execute () OBAllMethodCategoryNode>>methodReferences OBSelectorNode>>implementors OBMethodNode>>messageSelectors OBMethodNode>>implementorsOf: OBSelectorNode>>senders ORCommand>>instanceVariables - fix in OCompletionTable class>>initializeWithPackages (FillInTheBlank) NSAbstractDataStream class>>initialize (isInMemory) SHParserST80>>resolvePartial: (hasBindingThatBeginsWith: is not defined in SystemDictionary anymore) - Registration in the WorldMenu: In Moose PetitGUI MoosePanel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I would like to see Pharo1.1 Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[Pharo-project] [BUG]: Fullscreen mode has resizing tab (Issue 2356)
by Sean P. DeNigris April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Fullscreen mode does not seem to be an actual fullscreen app, but a resizable window with no title bar or border. I find this confusing as it does not match expected convention (on the Mac anyway). http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2356 Steps to reproduce: 1. Go to full screen mode You will see a resizing tab in the lower right corner. This is confusing because resizing is kind of incongruent with full screen. At first I thought dragging it might revert to full screen off, but it actually resizes the image and stays in full screen. PROPOSAL: * Lock the window size to cover the entire screen in full screen mode and remove the tab or * Change the name of the current option to something like "Borderless window" (if that is a feature for some people) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/BUG-Fullscreen-mode-has-resizing-tab-Issue-2356-tp206… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] a note system for pharo?
by Mariano Martinez Peck April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:54 AM, sergio_101 <sergiolist(a)village-buzz.com> > wrote: > > in other systems, i usually have a file that i keep for notes to my > > self, along with embedding TODO's in the code so that i know where to > > come back and fill in some blanks in the future... > > > > how do you guys usually handle this in pharo/seaside? > > > > i thought about just using a workspace, but i shut them down when i am > > done as a habit.. > > > ------------------------------------------------------ Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfScriptManager'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfScriptManager) project version: '1.0') load. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ and select World menu: "Tools" -> "More" -> "ScriptManager". That will let you create "folders" where you can group workspaces. You can put names to both of them, and import and export them to files. If you have opened workspaces, it can also recognise it and automatically create them. Cheers Mariano > > > > thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > > ---- > > peace, > > sergio > > photographer, journalist, visionary > > > > http://www.coffee-black.com > > http://www.painlessfrugality.com > > http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 > > http://www.facebook.com/sergio101 > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: Adding accessing methods
by Alexandre Bergel April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Added Behavior>>numberOfInstanceVariables ClassDescription>>numberOfLinesOfCode ClassDescription>>numberOfMethods fixed some typos in the comments. Tests are also proposed #2366 In the inbox: SLICE-FewMetricsDefinedOnClasses-Alexandre_Bergel.1 Cheers, Alexandre On 25 Apr 2010, at 03:08, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I thought that CompiledMethod has something because marcus use it to > compute some stats now > rationalizing would be good. > > so propose something on pharo and > numberOfInstanceVariables would be better > > On Apr 24, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>>> I would like to have numberOfMethods, >>>> , numberOfAttributes defined in Behavior. >>> >>> the problems is that numberOfAttributes is not the right vocabulary. >>> Did you check for the other ones if there is not already an >>> equivalent? >> >> Behavior>>instSize returns the number of named variables, tacking >> class inheritance into account. >> ClassDescription>>numberOfMethods returns the number of local (ie >> not defined in a trait) methods >> >> Behavior has nothing close to FAMIXClass>>numberOfLinesOfCode. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> Stef, does this make sense? Shall I produce a slice and put it >>>> PharoInbox? >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> What about adding in FAMIXClass: >>>>>> withAllSubclasses, allSubclasses, superclasses, >>>>>> withAllSuperclasses, allSuperclasses >>>>>> >>>>>> FAMIXClass should be somewhat polymorphic to Behavior. >>>>>> That would be useful... I can do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any opinion? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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April 27, 2010

11323 ----- - Issue 2352: aDuration seconds should not return a fraction - Issue 2270: Test for FileStream>>atEnd - Issue 2332: Add a test for file-truncation.

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[Pharo-project] Pharo developers you can subscribe to Pharo-Users too ; )
by Mariano Martinez Peck April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Hi everybody. We have two mailing list as you may know: one for pharo developers or people very interested in Pharo and its internal details. This mailing list is pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr It is high traffic and there are a lot of people that cannot follow. Then we have the Pharo-User mailing list for those that just want to use Pharo and don't care about their internals. This mailing list has less traffic. This mailing list is pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr The problem is that there is people that are subscribed to pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr but not to pharo-users. In this last mailing list, usually new comers ask questions. It would be great that all the people that is already subscribed to pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.frand have time to follow that mailing list, to subscribe also to Pharo-Users. Sometimes I am obligued to tell new comers "ask in pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr as not all the people is subscribed there" ... and thus, the Pharo-Users becomes useless. Thanks Mariano

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