August 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] tallyIt nows trigger a complete profiling
by Alexandre Bergel Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

This is much more useful I think. Before, it simply shows the time the expression took to execute. Now you have the information about different calls. I put the tag Milestone-1.0 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1087 Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[Pharo-project] Pharo beta one-click somewhere?
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

Marian wrote: >Anyway, this is the link for that: > >http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22778/setup_pharo_0.0.0.10.exe Yes ... but a better link with the same result is: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download Janko wrote: >Is there any Pharo one-click around to adopt? But I think Lukas now has the "Seaside on-click" based on Pharo. (see [1]) So you can use that and just exchange the image. If you also replace the windows VM and fonts with the ones from the setup above you will get a fairly new distribution and the VM executable will include the pharo icon. Bye Torsten [1] http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/seaside-2.8.4 -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

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[Pharo-project] OB Package
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

Begin forwarded message: > From: David RÃ¶thlisberger <roethlis(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Date: August 26, 2009 12:01:54 PM CEDT > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Cc: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch>, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)iam.unibe.ch > >, Alexandre Bergel <abergel(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > Subject: Re: PBE and OB > > Hi, > > Lukas and me made it possible to load both versions of OmniBrowser > into the same image, the OB version of Colin and my OB version > providing the package browser. > As we said we duplicated the package browser OB packages to be able > to have both versions of OB in the same image. That solution is not > too nice, but in the short-term it should be fair enough until we > have real package support and can thus make the package browser more > efficient. > > To load the OB package browser packages, you need to load all > packages from this repo: > http://www.squeaksource.com/EnhancedOB/ > > You can then choose between OBSystemBrowser, O2SystemBrowser and > O2PackageBrowser. > > If you find any problems, let me know. > > Cheers, > David > > >> Excellent and thanks a lot you two. >> When you see that squeak is now doing all the same than us this is >> really important. >> I really appreciate your effort. >> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:36 AM, David RÃ¶thlisberger wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> the package browser is again loadable also in latest Pharo by >>> executing 'ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha'. >>> This will load all required packages of OB as the package browser >>> needs it. This means that there will be a slighly different OB >>> code base in the image than what has been provided by Lukas' OB >>> version. >>> This also means that right now we can not use both browsers >>> (Lukas' category- and my package based) at the same time. >>> Lukas and me will work on making this possible on Monday. >>> >>> But note that you can use the system (category-based) and the >>> package browser based on the OB code base I maintained at the same >>> time; I think that's already good. I don't expect Lukas' version >>> of the system browser to be much faster. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> David >>> >>>> Excellent! >>>> I will continue to work on the package rewrite and like that for >>>> 1.1 we should have something. >>>> Stef >>>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>> >>>>> I discussed with Lukas and David this morning. >>>>> >>>>> David will work this week (today?) to make sure that OB- >>>>> ENhancements can be loaded. >>>>> >>>>> Next week Monday, David and Lukas will sit together to create a >>>>> separate (renamed) package of David's OB, so the two browsers >>>>> can live in the same image, and the user can switch between >>>>> them. (Lukas estimates just an hour or so of work -- optimism >>>>> wins, I guess ;-) We can then include version this in the pharo- >>>>> dev image and in the PBE image. I will adapt the book to make >>>>> it clear that the user can switch between them. >>>>> >>>>> This is purely a stop-gap measure, as we eventually replace both >>>>> by a fast package browser (I guess) in the coming months. >>>>> >>>>> Sound ok to you? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - on >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2009, at 17:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes now for pharo 1.0 it would be great if we could have >>>>>> fast lukas browser >>>>>> slow package browser >>>>>> all in the same image. >>>>>> >>>>>> can you check that with david? >>>>>> We do not care for speed now. >>>>>> and I will continue to work on the package but having a smooth >>>>>> integration/migration with/from the packageInfo >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ________________________________ >>> Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼ssen >>> David RÃ¶thlisberger >>> Doktorand Software Composition Group, IAM >>> UniversitÃ¤t Bern > > -- > ________________________________ > Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼ssen > David RÃ¶thlisberger > Doktorand Software Composition Group, IAM > UniversitÃ¤t Bern

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[Pharo-project] Native Windows
by Eagle Offshore Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

I spent the weekend trying to get Ffenestri working in Pharo. It was astonishingly painful, not the least of which because they are stored as half a dozen monticello archives and the MC tool merge tool requires you to address each conflict individually and the main change is that at lot of morphic methods now have comments and _ has been replaced with :=. There must be a better way. Also, the files have a lot of patches to Delay and Process and really scary stuff like that and I was under the impression that those things had been reworked since and I didn't want to introduce any sort of regression so I didn't load them and focused on just making the plugin interface work and patching the event delivery code to deliver window events to the host windows (things like activate, iconize, close...). Debugging would be made a lot easier if I could identify a hook that would let me close the native window with the debugger launches, then reopen it when it proceeds - but I haven't a clue how that code works. Anyhow, I have a native window that opens with a sketch morph in it and it does pretty much what I expect. Because of the OS doing window image caching and its own damage repair from an offscreen buffer - it feels wicked fast and responsive compared to our emulated windows. I would like to push on this and bid farewell to our MDI-like interface of windows within a window and finally switch to native windows with a top level morph in each. I have some very mixed feelings about this as the window theming work that has been done is really top notch. Absolutely wonderful - and yet I'd like to throw it all away and go with the OS windows because they're about a zillion times faster and more responsive (my wicked fast 2GHZ Macbook Pro has about a half second delay to drag a window - seriously - why?). It works OK on the Mac OS X. I'd like to find a windows and linux person who would also like to work on this. I have no idea if it works on other platforms. I also have no idea how I'm going to extract my changes and ship them. I've had to hack HandMorph>>processEvents and lord knows what else in the quest to make this fly. I suppose I could file out a change set? Anyhow - it sort-of works except I think I've exposed a bug in event coordinate translation and I don't understand mouseFocus and keyboardFocus - how is that suppose to work? Or does it anymore? Perhaps the folks who worked on recent event tweaks could enlighten me? -Todd Blanchard

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[Pharo-project] 3.11.4 Windows VM (was: Resource Directory support for Windows (VM 4.2.1Beta Window version ?
by Torsten Bergmann Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

Andreas wrote on Vm-dev list >Okay, 3.11.4 is in place now. Thanks for the new windows VM - will try it this evening. >Oh, and I finally remembered to add the version info to the VM. Cool! We should now also know the VM version from right clicking the EXE file (Properties -> Version). If one uses squeak to develop a windows based webserver app (Seaside or pier) this version information (vendor) should now also be displayed by personal firewalls when asking if you give permission to the executable. Before that it just displayed "squeak.exe" is requesting permission on port ... telling you that it comes from an anonymous vendor. So these few lines make life a little bit easier. Thanks! Bye Torsten -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate fÃ¼r nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

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[Pharo-project] Package Browser
by Ramiro Diaz Trepat Aug. 26, 2009

Aug. 26, 2009

Hi guys, I would really like to use the package browser again. I thought it was again loadable in the latest images with: ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha. But this is failing, during the installation; it does not find some dependencies (OBTextMorphEditorWithShout) and leaves the browser in an inconsistent state. Is there another repository to load it from? Thanks r.

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[Pharo-project] Win32 registry manipulation?
by Schwab,Wilhelm K Aug. 25, 2009

Aug. 25, 2009

Hello all, Do we have anything that can read and write to the Windows registry? I would not much care except that I have some unit tests that do things create ODBC data sources, and it would be nice to keep that functionality assuming it easy to do so. Bill

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[Pharo-project] 138 registrations at ESUG 2009 conf !
by Noury Bouraqadi Aug. 25, 2009

Aug. 25, 2009

Dr. Noury Bouraqadi ESUG Treasurer http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury/ -------------- -ESUG 17th International Smalltalk Conference - Brest, France, August 31 - September 4, 2009 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2009

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[Pharo-project] Announcement support in SystemWindow
by Alexandre Bergel Aug. 25, 2009

Aug. 25, 2009

I produced a ChangeSet available on: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=806 This version is an improvement over the previous version (Morphic- Alexandre_Bergel.301). The .cs only contains the difference. Note that for the Mondrian users, the changeset is contained into the Mondrian distribution. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Aug. 25, 2009

> > > Damien > > I will include simpleButton in Morph since it is defined in SoundUi > and this is not really its place. > Now in the next release of the pharo could you add the sound > packages (Sound + soundUI) and from MorphicExtras the Example and > Demo? > > Stef > > > >

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