October 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [update] 10087
by Marcus Denker Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

Issue 80: 7130 PluggableListMorphFix Issue 41: 7091 PluggableListMorphfix (M4719) Issue 98: 7152 Form-isAllWhiteandFormTest-ar Issue 57: 7107 IntervalReverseDoFix (M6438) -> used Nicolas fix from http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6456 Issue 202: Pier-Model can not be loaded into Pharo (please no question about "we need a prebuilt image, we need a TT/ Plymorph image. If you want to ask that question, just pretent that I did not do this update...) -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

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[Pharo-project] SqueakSource dns
by Michael Roberts Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

folks, squeaksource.com resolves for me but www.squeaksource.com does not. Could anyone else verify/counter this? It's causing the latest update to stall for me. thanks, Mike

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Re: [Pharo-project] Some clearifications
by Bill Schwab Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

Marcus, Agreed. If there has been other than constructive criticism/suggestions/wishes, I haven't seen it, and you ARE doing a great job!! Years of cruft are being removed and refined, and it will turn ugly at times. Once a Pharo 1.0 exits, there will be development and stable releases, and hence an explicit warning that the development image is just that. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> alexandre(a)bergel.eu 10/05/08 12:28 PM >>> >> The problem is of course that the people doing the integration >> everytime a bug is introduced look >> (and feel) like idiots. >> It would help if people would not strengthen this feeling... if I do >> something where I feel like an >> idiot most of the time, at some point I will stop. >> > Uhhh, is it that? I didn't read that much complaints on the list. > Marcus, you are doing an incredible job!! And my feeling is that > you are _really_ fast integrating stuff. Seeing that it is > embarrassing for me as I don't find any time to do something for > pharo at the moment. I agree with Norbert on this Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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[Pharo-project] Linux VM build files.
by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

The make files I ended up with are here: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/freetypeMakeFiles.tz They're not ideal but should work on all Unix platforms with gmake. Given they're only for building on Unix that's probably good enough for now. And they're heavily commented because they're not ideal. I've also incorporated the rest of the image building necessary for FreeType into the exupery-dev Universes project. I've created a FreeType Plus-Core package and a Refactoring Tests package. The FreeType Plus-Core package is to avoid loading the prebuilt freetype plugins as that breaks if the FT2Plugin directory exists beside the VM. The Refactoring Tests is loaded because three of Exupery's tests build on refactoring tests. Feel free to take over these packages. Bryce

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[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo web released
by Damien Cassou Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

Hi, I've just released pharo-web based on Pharo 10087: http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/8422/pharo0.1-10087web08.10.1.zip Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

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[Pharo-project] Performance observation
by Bill Schwab Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

Hello all, As part of some catch-up work from a couple of weeks ago, I'm using my 1.8 GHz/500MB Ubuntu box and a remote desktop client to do some configuration on a win2k3 VM running on a blade server on campus. By many standards, I am using a pig-slow machine jumping through lots of hoops to reach a machine that has only part of a CPU at the other end. One striking thing is that the remote desktop client on Ubuntu is putting its Windows XP counter part to shame for speed for most things; the XP client drags on everything; this is generally (almost) snappy, and much nicer to use as result. The XP box in my office, IIRC, is a 3.x GHz machine (faster than what I am using now to be sure); it too might have "only" 500MB of RAM - I can check that later if it matters. The client is clearly optimizing window moves and at least some scrolling operations, uncoverings, etc. Pharo running over there looks comparatively slow, no doubt because ever windowing operation is seen as a change to the on main window. I do not know what to make of it, other than it might be a argument in favor of one native window per system window. Just thought I'd mention it. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029

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[Pharo-project] Retracting changes for checking variable naming?
by Marcus Denker Oct. 5, 2008

Oct. 5, 2008

Hi, We harvested something: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=15 Instance variable names hould not be capitalized and should be different from class variables names The problem is that this a) makes code unloadable that is already out there. not good. and b) it's buggy. At first, I fixed one bug: Issue 174: XMLSupport can't be loaded into latest Pharo image http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=174 Then there was another: Issue 202: Pier-Model can not be loaded into Pharo http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=202 which I thought I fixed, but that fix does not work either: Issue 219: Cryptography does not load into Pharo http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=219 Would somebody be againt retracting the orginal "enhancement" to classbuilder? This has already cost me *hours* and I really don't want anymore. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

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Oct. 4, 2008

Then I would like to know where are the addtrait menuitem that were once in the old browser? Stef

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Oct. 4, 2008

Hi in pharo10086 + ScriptLoader loadTools I would like to know how to define a trait. I thought that traits integration was in. Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] Save and quit menu
by Bill Schwab Oct. 4, 2008

Oct. 4, 2008

I never save and quit in one step; I learned the hard way a long time ago, and (fair or not) the lesson stuck. There should be save, and save+quit. Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> mathieusuen(a)yahoo.fr 10/03/08 8:22 AM >>> Hi, From the latest pharo image the Save and quit menu have disappear. Is there any reason for removing it. I always use it so I found annoying to first click quit and then answer the question... Mth ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail r*invente le mail ! D*couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface r*volutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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