Re: [Pharo-project] Save and quit menu
I never save and quit in one step; I learned the hard way a long time ago, and (fair or not) the lesson stuck. There should be save, and save+quit. Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
mathieusuen@yahoo.fr 10/03/08 8:22 AM >>> Hi,
From the latest pharo image the Save and quit menu have disappear. Is there any reason for removing it. I always use it so I found annoying to first click quit and then answer the question... Mth ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail r*invente le mail ! D*couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface r*volutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
I love the new, simpler Pharo approach. There is a Save option and a Quit option. If you quit without Saving, a dialog appears. Just like every other other system. And, better than most other systems, saved code can always be recovered, even if I botch the image. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
I never save and quit in one step; I learned the hard way a long time ago, and (fair or not) the lesson stuck. There should be save, and save+quit.
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
mathieusuen@yahoo.fr 10/03/08 8:22 AM >>> Hi,
From the latest pharo image the Save and quit menu have disappear. Is there any reason for removing it. I always use it so I found annoying to first click quit and then answer the question...
Mth
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On 03/10/2008, at 11:58 PM, David Mitchell wrote:
If you quit without Saving, a dialog appears.
Which is fine unless moving the mouse or triggering the quit causes a change in the image, in which case you cannot quit without being presented with a dialog, even though you haven't 'changed' anything. Antony Blakey ------------- CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd Ph: 0438 840 787 Some defeats are instalments to victory. -- Jacob Riis
Yeap! that is why I found the quit button useless. Either you want to save and quit or save do not quit(menu: file -> quite do not save). On Oct 4, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Antony Blakey wrote:
On 03/10/2008, at 11:58 PM, David Mitchell wrote:
If you quit without Saving, a dialog appears.
Which is fine unless moving the mouse or triggering the quit causes a change in the image, in which case you cannot quit without being presented with a dialog, even though you haven't 'changed' anything.
Antony Blakey ------------- CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd Ph: 0438 840 787
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I liked save and quit, not had a problem with Squeak not actually saving... Still fewer menu options is good. Not seen many other applications with a save+quit... perhaps if the "X" (aka close on host window) fed back to the dialog, all would be good. 2c (or 10p in rip-off-Britain) :-) Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathieu Suen" <mathieusuen@yahoo.fr> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Save and quit menu
Yeap! that is why I found the quit button useless. Either you want to save and quit or save do not quit(menu: file -> quite do not save).
On Oct 4, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Antony Blakey wrote:
On 03/10/2008, at 11:58 PM, David Mitchell wrote:
If you quit without Saving, a dialog appears.
Which is fine unless moving the mouse or triggering the quit causes a change in the image, in which case you cannot quit without being presented with a dialog, even though you haven't 'changed' anything.
Antony Blakey ------------- CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd Ph: 0438 840 787
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Quit and ask to save if things are changed is by far the most logical and simple combination. On the other hand, as Antony pointed out, the image seems to think there's been a change for almost any action, so even if you've just pressed save, if you then quit you get asked to save again! S On 4 Oct 2008, at 17:47, Gary Chambers wrote:
I liked save and quit, not had a problem with Squeak not actually saving... Still fewer menu options is good. Not seen many other applications with a save+quit... perhaps if the "X" (aka close on host window) fed back to the dialog, all would be good.
2c (or 10p in rip-off-Britain) :-)
Gary.
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To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Save and quit menu
Yeap! that is why I found the quit button useless. Either you want to save and quit or save do not quit(menu: file -> quite do not save).
On Oct 4, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Antony Blakey wrote:
On 03/10/2008, at 11:58 PM, David Mitchell wrote:
If you quit without Saving, a dialog appears.
Which is fine unless moving the mouse or triggering the quit causes a change in the image, in which case you cannot quit without being presented with a dialog, even though you haven't 'changed' anything.
Antony Blakey ------------- CTO, Linkuistics Pty Ltd Ph: 0438 840 787
Some defeats are instalments to victory. -- Jacob Riis
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