January 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

FW: Graph-ET Examples on Facebook
by Daniel Aviv Notario Jan. 2, 2014

Jan. 2, 2014

Fowarding what I posted on Pharo-dev Cheers! :-) From: daniel_avivnotario(a)hotmail.com To: moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch; pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Graph-ET Examples on Facebook Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:30:30 -0300 Hi! Weâve just put online some example about GraphET. GraphET is about drawing charts, graphs and histograms. It is built on top of Roassal, to let the user enjoy all the different interaction with the visualization. GraphET may be loaded using the following incantation: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'GraphET'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGraphET'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGraphET) loadDevelopment https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566523986767536.1073741839.340543… Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Re: Pharo on Android - is it available?
by kilon alios Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

yes sorry for forgetting about the link. One nice thing about amber is that pharo libraries are being ported to it, like Athens and Roassal and also it specifically focus on pharo. It also shows the level of compatibility between pharo and amber. The disadvantage of amber is that you have to learn javascript and hmtl because this is where everything is based. But then making browser based apps without knowing javascript / hmtl / css is generally not advisable. But in the end of the day, there is no such thing as ideal solution you just pick the choice that fits your needs and wants better and dive into it. Personally I am still in a bit of dilema for my project do I go full pharo or do i use amber for front end and pharo for backend, or just amber etc. But the thing is that unless you explore your options thoroughly you cant draw definite conclusion and you cannot even rely on other people's opinion too much because they have different priorities from you. So I would say have it a go and decide for yourself. Coding like everything else is an exploration and continuous learning experience. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>wrote: > Hilaire (and Dmitry) > > Many thanks for your efforts on my behalf. I have looked at the CogDroid > page, but was discouraged by the prominent warning that "This project is > currently disabled." I am not an expert in combining VM files and images; > if > it involves anything more complicated than downloading a one-click image, > it > is beyond my ability. I think the comments on the SqueakVM-tablet site are > unduly optimistic. > > For the time being I shall follow up the helpful comments from kilon alios > and others that Amber Smalltalk may be the way to go. > > Thanks again > > Peter Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf > Of > Hilaire Fernandes > Sent: 01 January 2014 16:26 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Subject: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Re: Pharo on Android - is it available? > > Forwarding this message from Dmitry. > > Hilaire > > > -------- Message original -------- > Sujet: Re: Pharo on Android - is it available? > Date : Wed, 1 Jan 2014 10:15:07 -0500 > De : Dmitry Golubovsky <golubovsky(a)gmail.com> > Pour : Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> > > > > Hilaire, > > I see the question asked by Peter, but all mail links are completely > mangled, so I am replying to you; in case you have a correct email for > Peter > please forward my response to him. > > I believe that the latest binary builds are at > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/CogDroid/ which are bare VMs > (need an image). PharoDroid (with integrated image) was indeed never ported > properly from the old INRIA build site. > > I think that information at > http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list still applies more or > less, > also how to integrate an image into an apk if thats needed. > > The source repo is at > > https://gitorious.org/cogvm/dmg-blessed/ > > and I haven't done any commits to it recently (the latest was at Thursday > October 04 2012). So images at Inria should be fine to start with although > build from sources is always preferred. It's worh mentionig that Pharo 1.x > may be needed to perform the build, and given that Pharo downloading > methods > have changed since the last time I was working on this project some extra > effort may be needed. Also, if serious development is planned, platform > codes in the said gitorious repo need to be merged with the current > platform > codes in other repos (which?), and the whole build procedure needs more > attention. > > Also worth mentioning that only features of Android up to 2.x are used in > this build. I have no idea whether recent NDK is compatible, so if the > older > versions are no longer available, some more effort may be needed to bring > this all up to date. > > Hope this helps. > > Happy New Year! > > Thanks. > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Hilaire Fernandes > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31 Dec 2013, at 17:44, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk > >> <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > >> > >>> I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just > >>> acquired an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another > >>> development language to produce my own simple apps. After a Google > >>> search, I have found http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, > >>> which says it is available, at least as a beta. The site says that > >>> downloads from there are deprecated, and gives a link to > >>> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for the download. > >>> This link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a > >>> download of Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And > >>> does it make sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about > >>> Dr Geo, so I suppose the answer is yes)? > >>> > >>> Many thanks for help > >>> > >>> Peter Kenny > >> > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > > > -- > Dmitry Golubovsky > > Anywhere on the Web > > > > > > >

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Spotlight Demo
by Sean DeNigris Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

I needed an entry completion with groups, like Mac's Spotlight. While I was at it, I figured it would also be useful as a UI for the existing Spotlight. So I made a SpotlightMorph, which is a very Mac-like stand-alone Morph, which is a textField + results morph, and an adaptor for EntryCompetion, SpotlightEntryCompletion, which can be passed to #entryCompletion: A short screencast will be available at https://vimeo.com/82953583 in about 45 minutes. And here's a screenshot for the impatient ;) To load (tested in Pharo 2.0 latest): Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground'; package: 'Spotlight'; load. Then try: SpotlightCompletionExample open. or SpotlightMorphExample exampleFileSearch. or SpotlightMorphExample exampleSmalltalkSearch.

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Fwd: Re: Pharo on Android - is it available?
by Hilaire Fernandes Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Forwarding this message from Dmitry. Hilaire -------- Message original -------- Sujet: Re: Pharo on Android - is it available? Date : Wed, 1 Jan 2014 10:15:07 -0500 De : Dmitry Golubovsky <golubovsky(a)gmail.com> Pour : Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> Hilaire, I see the question asked by Peter, but all mail links are completely mangled, so I am replying to you; in case you have a correct email for Peter please forward my response to him. I believe that the latest binary builds are at https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/CogDroid/ which are bare VMs (need an image). PharoDroid (with integrated image) was indeed never ported properly from the old INRIA build site. I think that information at http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list still applies more or less, also how to integrate an image into an apk if thats needed. The source repo is at https://gitorious.org/cogvm/dmg-blessed/ and I haven't done any commits to it recently (the latest was at Thursday October 04 2012). So images at Inria should be fine to start with although build from sources is always preferred. It's worh mentionig that Pharo 1.x may be needed to perform the build, and given that Pharo downloading methods have changed since the last time I was working on this project some extra effort may be needed. Also, if serious development is planned, platform codes in the said gitorious repo need to be merged with the current platform codes in other repos (which?), and the whole build procedure needs more attention. Also worth mentioning that only features of Android up to 2.x are used in this build. I have no idea whether recent NDK is compatible, so if the older versions are no longer available, some more effort may be needed to bring this all up to date. Hope this helps. Happy New Year! Thanks. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31 Dec 2013, at 17:44, PBK Research >> <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk >> <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: >> >>> I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just >>> acquired an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another >>> development language to produce my own simple apps. After a Google >>> search, I have found http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, which >>> says it is available, at least as a beta. The site says that downloads >>> from there are deprecated, and gives a link to >>> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for the download. This >>> link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a download of >>> Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And does it make >>> sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about Dr Geo, so I >>> suppose the answer is yes)? >>> >>> Many thanks for help >>> >>> Peter Kenny >> > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- Dmitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Android - is it available?
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Hi peter I will let esteban reply to you because I do not know where the code is hosted. We should check https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid Now there is not much effort on PharoDroid I know that it is working but I imagine that it could be way better (you know time/moneyâ¦) Stef On 31 Dec 2013, at 17:44, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote: > I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just acquired an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another development language to produce my own simple apps. After a Google search, I have found http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, which says it is available, at least as a beta. The site says that downloads from there are deprecated, and gives a link to https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for the download. This link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a download of Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And does it make sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about Dr Geo, so I suppose the answer is yes)? > > Many thanks for help > > Peter Kenny

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Android - is it available?
by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Peter, I don't know the current state of Android's VM. It is, however, fully functional on ARM as I regularly run it now my Raspberry Pi both under Linux and RISC OS. Note, however, that -at least the version for the RasPi- is not a COG VM. So running Pharo in the RasPi is slow given the limited resources of the RasPi. Best Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:44 PM, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>wrote: > I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just acquired > an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another development language > to produce my own simple apps. After a Google search, I have found > http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, which says it is available, at > least as a beta. The site says that downloads from there are deprecated, > and gives a link to https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for > the download. This link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a > download of Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And does it > make sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about Dr Geo, so I > suppose the answer is yes)? > > Many thanks for help > > Peter Kenny >

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Zinc as a proxy ?
by itlists＠schrievkrom.de Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Can a Zinc http-server be used as a local proxy ? Had anyone done this ? Marten Feldtmann

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Jan. 1, 2014

Hi pharoers Sometimes I think that we are crazy to build this system but this is really important to have dreams and make them becoming true. :) I really like what we are doing: we are building a strong community and a really great system. Of course it could be better but it is going in the right direction at full speed. Now remember that Pharo is not ours but YOURS and you can get an impact! Pharo is not read-only. This year we got some nice and important changes. I think that in 2014 we will have some important improvements. We will have to finish what we started and build a solid ground for the next iteration. I really like our community because it pushes me forward and because my dreams are becoming reality :) I wish you a lot of success and health. Stef

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towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger)
by Tudor Girba Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Hi, Some of you asked how the GTInspector and GTDebugger are different from the existing infrastructure. They are quite different from the norm in that: they are tiny, and they are highly extensible. Here are some posts that describe what makes them different: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructe… http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dissecting-the-gtinspector/ http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/extending-variables-shown-in-gtinspec… http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/moldable-gtdebugger These tools are already the default development tools in the Moose image. As you can see, Moose is reshaping the Pharo IDE. I think this is exciting. This should be just the beginning. To make it better, we need your energy: - Apply and extend these tools for your context (this is what makes them unique). - Tell us what works and what does not work. - Ideally, start working with us on this topic. In particular, I am looking for people that would like to spend some time working on Morphic widgets. It's your turn now. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

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Re: [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo
by DeNigris Sean Jan. 1, 2014

Jan. 1, 2014

Thanks for the feedback everyone! A few enhancements: - Close on escape - Select next on down arrow when open - Show all on down arrow when closed - Select previous on up arrow - Accept on enter - requires an override in PluggableTextFieldMorph, but I think the change can be integrated in Core - For entry completion (unlike our current behavior): - Keyboard focus remains with the text field, so: - you can continue to type - the selected item stays selected as long as it remains visible, even if it moves around in the list (maybe doesn't matter for completion...) I'm off to celebrate... See you in the new year!

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