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[Pharo-project] thinking about a community model of funding
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

Hi guys I would like to see a model like that around the pharo virtual machine emerging http://phk.freebsd.dk/VML/ stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Alien on Pharo 1.2
by Luc Fabresse Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

Hi Esteban, I just understand your point now. I was using the VM 4.2.5 so Alien works pretty well on a 1.2. But on the 5.7.4 VM, Alien is totally broken. Even if I am not an expert in plugin code, I can give a try and look at it. Can you just give me the right way to compile/generate the plugin source? how to get the right WMMaker image? is it a pharo one now? which repository for the sources? gitorious? Thanks for all your work and effort Esteban! #Luc 2011/2/4 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > yes... I will commit a fixed version this week or the next one, or the > other (ah, time, that awful all-eater monster) :P > > Cheers, > Esteban > > El 04/02/2011, a las 9:57a.m., Luc Fabresse escribiÃ³: > > Hi Esteban, > > No, I do not use Alien-MacOS (and I never played with it) even if I am on > Mac. > This is because I only need to call a standard POSIX library and > Alien-Core is enough for me. > If you have a patch or something better for Alien-MacOS, I can test it if > you want. please commit ;-) > > Cheers, > > #Luc > > > 2011/2/4 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi Luc, >> Did you make the package Alien-MacOS work? right now I'm dealing with it >> (I even needed to bugfix the plugin sources), and I'm fighting (hard) to >> make the proxy logic work... also I refactored a lot to make it compatible >> with latest versions of Alien. >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> El 30/01/2011, a las 9:05a.m., Luc Fabresse escribiÃ³: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I just committed new versions of Alien on squeaksource to make it run on >> 1.2 >> > I also modified the ConfigurationOfAlien to easily load it: >> > >> > (ConfigurationOfAlien project version: 'Pharo 1.1') load >> > >> > (ConfigurationOfAlien project version: 'Pharo 1.2') load >> > >> > (ConfigurationOfAlien project version: 'Pharo 1.1') load: {'All'. >> 'MacOSX'} >> > >> > (ConfigurationOfAlien project version: 'Pharo 1.2') load: {'All'. >> 'MacOSX'} >> > >> > #Luc >> >> > >

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13037
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

13037 ----- - Issue 3653: enh: change cursor form when over active editable text morph. Thanks Alain Plantec. - Issue 3622: [ENH]: Clean up Url>>urlClassForScheme: Thanks Sean De Nigris Stef

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[Pharo-project] About FS: sad reality.
by Torsten Bergmann Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

>PS: the public/private distinction is a bit hard in Smalltalk, but the >conventions seem to be method categories with 'private' in them, no ? Yes, or "private-accessing", "private-utilities", ... And yes, it is just a convention to use method categories with all it's ups and downs similar to the abuse of class categories for packages. Does oCompletion/eCompletion display them if they are not sent to super/self? I think I should check. Bye T. -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail

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[Pharo-project] Alien-Prerequisites is now not required
by Igor Stasenko Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

Just found that evil overrides which contains this package are completely same as in existing Parser. The Alien-Prereqs-KenTreis.5 contains only two of them: Parser>>pragmaLiteral: selectorSoFar Parser>>pragmaStatement both are the same as in image. So, i conclude that we don't need this guy anymore for loading Alien -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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[Pharo-project] Metacello issue on Linux
by Igor Stasenko Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

Hello.. i trying to load VMMaker using metacello config on linux .. and it seems like a file system/plugins working differently there, so during package loading i got FileExists exception (for .mcz files which happen to be already in package-cache). The error triggered in MCCacheRepository(MCDirectoryRepository)>>writeStreamForFileNamed: aString replace: aBoolean do: aBlock i don't know why it can't use cached version (since file already exists, it should, yes?) Try issuing following in pharo-1.3 core image(http://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%20Core%201.3/) Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfCog'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfCog) project version: '1.2') load. on mac it works well. Update: It appears that the bug triggers only if you have wiped-clean package-cache dir , which is always true in my setup, because i do 'rm -rf build' before starting putting things there. Here the package-cache contents at the moment of error: ls package-cache/ ConfigurationOfCog-IgorStasenko.4.mcz ConfigurationOfMetacello-DaleHenrichs.554.mcz Metacello-Core-DaleHenrichs.455.mcz ConfigurationOfHelpSystem-DaleHenrichs.13.mcz Metacello-Base-DaleHenrichs.19.mcz Metacello-MC-DaleHenrichs.505.mcz i need help with it.. because it looks like a bad karma.. each time i think that my build setup is ready to roll, some shitty thing pops up and blocks me from finishing things i do. Before that i was using a script which were simply loaded a list of .mcz packages from corresponding locations. And everything just worked, except that i chosen to use metacello.. to not have problems to deal with need to load different packages for different forks, but now metacello blocks me. :( -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Hudson build for Seaside too?
by Marcus Denker Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > OK - we have the hudson build for Pharo Core, Pharo, Moose, ... > > Since Pharo is the reference platform for Seaside > wouldnt it make sense to run a hudson build for > Seaside too: > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30) project latestVersion) load. > > I know that http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/ builds a seaside > one click ... but still on the old Pharo 1.1. > > Wouldnt it make sense to have one for Pharo1.2 with Seaside3.0 > already. So we can see early when we break things for Seaside ... > Yes, I think this is a good idea. Not for providing an alternative distribution, but as a nice regression test and a *huge* additional testsuite, this would be very valuable. And we can this way coordinate API level changes much better. I will put it on the list. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Feb. 4, 2011

Hi guys I'm sorry but I stopped working on FS. I cannot guess what is private or not, what is the interface of this code. I spent my time guessing and guessing wrong. So I stop. Simple. In addition I will veto the integration of this code in this state to be added into pharo (sad I started to write an help but it is probably full of mistakes). I HATE undocumented code that tell me eveyr minutes that I'm a fucking idiot. Too bad I'm not smart enough. Now without decent comments (I mean more than a line in class comment when there is one) we cannot accept code. Sad but true. Good luck if you want to use it and improve it. Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] love CI
by Marcus Denker Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:49 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > ci.pharo-project.org is really impressive. > > It's great for Pharo. > > But the really cool side is that you can show students what is software quality with the tool they use to develop. That's not slides. That's not theory. It's here. Real. > > One of the things I hated when giving Lectures about OO with Squeak was the "Intelligent Student Incident", which always happens: Exactly that students that you would want to attract (e.g. for doing a masters thesis) will just after 3 weeks realize that we do not do what we teach. We tell them how to program, but they look at the code in front of them and see something completely different. So there is some clash with only two possible solutions: Change what you Teach or Change what you Do. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] The Comment Game - MMORPG for real
by laurent laffont Feb. 4, 2011

Feb. 4, 2011

I propose a little game. Each day (not Sunday) I will take a not commented class in PharoCore (in development - 1.3) and tell it on this list. The game is to propose a comment and at the end of the day the best comment will be integrated with the name of his author. One day - One comment. Ready ? Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

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