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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I've got my complete Jenkins server building on Pharo 1.2 now: > > http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/ > > Some stuff is still a bit broken, but it looks good so far. > Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. I wonder if we should adopt your OB codebase for that? Or do we wait for 1.2.1? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12342
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

12342 ----- Issue 3820: TextConstants change to SharedPool breaks external code using at: message -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Running tests for auto-built Cog VMs
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Mar 18, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > But i wonder if we may need to be more focused and create some package(s) > to group tests around VM or its individual plugins. > > Have you looked, as I suggested, in a Squeak 4.2 image? You'll find Tests-VM, Tests-Finalization, Tests-ObjectsAsMethods > > In Pharo there is: Tests-VM BecomeTest IslandVMTweaksTestCase Tests-Finalization ObjectFinalizerTest Tests-ObjectsAsMethods TestObjectsAsMethods .. and they are run every day at least once (in 1.2, 1.3 and before 1.2 was stable even 1.1) since a couple of months. e.g. https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%20Core%201.2/lastCompleted… Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Running tests for auto-built Cog VMs
by Mariano Martinez Peck March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 18 March 2011 01:30, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello all. >> >> >> >> Our next plan is to extend the Hudson build jobs with tests which are >> >> run after VM has built. >> >> >> >> I'd like to ask, what kind of tests we should run for VMs. >> >> >> >> So, here's my questions: >> >> >> >> - do we need a VM specific tests? Or we just use ordinal tests which >> >> are in image(s) by default? >> > >> > SOme of the standard tests in the Squeak 4.2 suite are specifically for >> VM stuff. The entire suite depends on the VM in some way. It seems >> straight-forward to include tests for specific pieces of functionality, for >> example the mirror primitives, cannotInterpret: and objects-as-methods. >> Adding tests that test new VM functionality is clearly more than a good >> idea; it should be de rigueur. >> > >> >> >> >> - in case if we need to run VM-specific tests, is they are available >> >> somewhere or not? do we need to create separate package/repository for >> >> holding them? >> > >> > Check out a 4.2 image and look at the tests. The organization might not >> be perfect but it's there. >> > >> >> You mean non-VM-specific tests, just those which lying in image(s)? >> >> Yes, that's the first thing which comes into mind. And sure thing for >> start it is ok. >> >> For example, Hudson runs tests for PharoCore1.3 image, each time new >> update there. >> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Pharo/job/Pharo%20Core%201.3/ >> >> It is easy to tweak this config and run it using freshly built VM(s), >> one per each platform * JIT/Stack/MT configs. >> >> But i wonder if we may need to be more focused and create some package(s) >> to group tests around VM or its individual plugins. >> > > Have you looked, as I suggested, in a Squeak 4.2 image? You'll find > Tests-VM, Tests-Finalization, Tests-ObjectsAsMethods > >> >> So maybe we should integrate them in Pharo too ? > >> >> >> >> >> i'd like to brainstorm that a bit. And then we will do that. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards, >> >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > > >

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[Pharo-project] Pharo in San Martin University
by Esteban Lorenzano March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

Hi, I want to announce that yesterday I started teaching Pharo at University San Martin, so this university is now a proud member of the growing list of universities using this great environment for teaching purposes. One interesting thing is that we are going to explore some not-so-commonly taught capabilities, like Traits and the reflection api :) Cheers, Esteban

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13094
by StÃ©phane Ducasse March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

13094 ----- - Issue 3792: PluggableListMorph with a wrapper for display. Thanks Benjamin van Ryseghem. S.

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[Pharo-project] Issue 3792 in pharo: PluggableListMorph with a wrapper for display
by pharo＠googlecode.com March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

Status: Fixed Owner: Benjamin...(a)gmail.com New issue 3792 by Benjamin...(a)gmail.com: PluggableListMorph with a wrapper for display http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3792 I now provide a way (or maybe Alain will said it already exists ^^) to change the way item are displayed using the method wrapSelector: aSymbol where aSymbol is the name of a one argument method. That way, you can store real Object (not Strings), and change the way items are displayed ============================================================= Example: buildList list := PluggableListMorph on: self list: #getList selected: #selected changeSelected: #selected:. list wrapSelector: #listWrapper:. ^ list where: listWrapper: anElement ^ anElement name Here anElement is the raw item from the list. Attachments: PluggableListMorphWithWrapper.2.cs 2.2 KB

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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) > overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks > everything :-( > > Lukas > > On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. >>> I wonder if we should adopt your OB codebase for that? Or do >>> we wait for 1.2.1? >> >> I would wait a bit. I noticed that the debugger is quite broken. I >> only get the pre-debug window, but clicking on any button opens >> another pre-debug window. I don't have time to investigate, is this >> also in core or some side-effect of loading/unloading packages? I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> I would not unload packaged. >>> >>> Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am >>> sure you will have problems. >>> >>> And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. >> >> You must be joking right? In the mission you say "stable and small >> core", but the numbers say something entirely different: PharoCore 1.0 >> is 11 MB, PharoCore 1.1 is 14 MB, PharoCore 1.2 is 16 MB. I mentioned >> it before in this list, but I already had to unload stuff in PharoCore >> 1.1. Honestly, I don't really see the point of a PharoCore image if it >> contains more and more not unloadable non-core code. >> > Size of the image comes in part from ever growing MC history. 1.2 Core is 15.6MB MCVersionInfo allInstances do: [ :each | each instVarNamed: 'ancestors' put: nil ]. --> 11.8 MB Delete ScriptLoader class in addition: --> 9.8MB Starting with 1.2Core, doing ScriptLoader new cleanUpForProduction --> 7.5 MB (With MinimalMorphic) So it's not that bad. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final
by Marcus Denker March 18, 2011

March 18, 2011

On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: >> >> >> And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. >> >> Marcus > I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? > Think I read so in an issue, or on the list. Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is *finished*. If we want to do that, we need to do that *not after the release is released* but before. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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