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Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?
by Marcus Denker May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On May 12, 2011, at 3:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Randall > > what is the position of squeak regarding the inclusion of qwak code in squeak? My position is to *not* let any GPLed code in Pharo. Because this means that everything is GPL, and that people therefore will have problems using it to make money in many cases. (and no, the GPL does not help to get contributions back: I *do not want* contributions of code where the author is forced to release code...) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Cog doesn't load anymore in PharoCore1.3 because of the removal of AbstractLauncher
by Marcus Denker May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On May 12, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > sooo.. opinions? > We can add the class the the compatiblity package... > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If Cog really needs it we should create a separate repostiroy like PharoCogSupport and put the class there and add it as a dependency of Cog in ConfigurationOfCog. > Another hacky way is to add a #preLoadDoit: in ConfigurationOfCog that does a #compile: of AbstractLauncher > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > AbstractLauncher was removed in: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4002 > > Cog has a subclass from AbstractLauncher called CommandLineLauncher, hence, it cannot be loaded anymore > > CommandLineLauncher has no class comment and no sender. So I have no idea what it does, nor if it can be removed from cog, nor how to solve this problem in Pharo. > > Cheers > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?
by merlyn＠stonehenge.com May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

A question recently came up on the squeak-dev mailing list about the legality of including GPL code in Squeak core, as to where the line might be. This is especially interesting because of the OpenQwaq release recently. I was able to answer the question for Squeak core definitively by saying "if you have questions, Squeak is part of the SFC, so we have legal representation through the SFLC". This permits potential contributors to get free legal advice about whether their code would be permitted into Squeak core without violating the Apache/MIT license. Which got me wondering, for Pharo, what's the equivalent? Have you guys retained a lawyer or other arrangements for which you can sort out license issues? Who is the "SFLC" equivalent for Pharo? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

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Re: [Pharo-project] Mailinglist archive not working
by Marcus Denker May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On May 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Looks like the mail archive is not working: > > See http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-May/date.html > last mail is from May 10 13:44:40 > > Anyone able to tell the inria admins... > > Yes... not only the archive, at least me, I did not get any mail for 2 days... But this has now been fixed. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?
by Marcus Denker May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On May 12, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "StÃ©phane" == StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: > > StÃ©phane> what is the position of squeak regarding the inclusion of qwak > StÃ©phane> code in squeak? > > GPL code is incompatible with Squeak core, because it taints the entire > distribution. > Good! Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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[Pharo-project] About CompiledMethod category returning nil sometimes
by StÃ©phane Ducasse May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Hi guys With cyrille we experience sometimes CompiledMethod with nil category and this can break hard some problem. We were thinking but not sure that it would be good to make sure that nil is not returned but 'as yet unclassified' What do you think? Do you have any idea of potential problem? Stef

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13191
by StÃ©phane Ducasse May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

13191 ----- - Issue 4177: New TranscriptWindow and several fixes to the (new) Transcript adoption. Thanks a lot Fernando Olivero. 3112: ThreadSafeTranscript >> #endEntry is Morphic dependent. 3948: Transcript and ThreadedTranscript needs to be merged. 4023: Transcript clear prints Transcript after clearing prior text. 4039: To open ThreadSafeTranscript . 4067: Transcript does not work with system fonts (Win XP) (TranscriptModel>>displayOn: aForm uses StandardFonts now) 4093: alt_t (fixed by loading the post load: send initializeDesktopCommandSelectors for the worlds) 4116: minimizing, then output to transcript: redraw problems. Stef

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[Pharo-project] Call for ideas for DBXTalk UI
by Mariano Martinez Peck May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Hi guys. Thanks to the ESUG SummerTalk, DBXTalk team has started to work with the new products of the DBXTalk suite. However, for one of the tools in special we would like to hear your opinion. Just a little introduction to the two other tools: 1) A new Glorp port from VW to Pharo. In addition, we provide the DBX driver for Glorp, by the name of GlorpDBX. Guillermo Polito is mostly working on this. 2) A new tool that uses Magritte and the database metadata to automatically generate the mappings between objects and tables. The idea is to do it two-way: a) read the metadata from an existing database -> create magritte descriptions -> generate Glorp mappings -> query with Glorp b) write magritte descriptions for the mappings -> generate database schema -> generate Glorp mappings -> query with Glorp or something like that....it is not completely decided but that's the idea. This way we can autogenerate the Glorp mappings and then use Glorp normally. Santiago Bragagnolo is working mostly on this. The third product, and here the question, is going to be a UI for the DBXTalk suite. This UI would do the core functionalities of tools like SQLDeveloper, MySQL Explorer, pgAdmin, etc. This is basically: - visualize and get information of: tables, views, schemas, relations, indexes, etc. - be able to modify the previous items and impact them in the database - write queries and get results So...why this tool if we can also use external tools like SQLDeveloper, MySQL Explorer, pgAdmin, etc ? a couple of reasons: 1) having the tool inside the image is easier (just the same way you sometimes install an Eclipse plugin instead of using such programs) 2) the same tool works for all databases 3) we can customize it with particular things of DBX Gisela Decuzzi is working mostly on this. Now....what use cases do you think are useful for such UI ? what kind of things would you like ? what things we can do that are related to Glorp and to the magritte tool? what things can we do to have even more advantages than just using external programs ? I have the following things in mind: - Special console for DBX/Glorp logs. - Be able to edit Magritte description for mappings. - Sync the tables and mapping while edditing. - A new inspector for inspecting restultsets, where you see one rows and columns. Let us know. Once again, thanks ESUG for the sponsorship to the team. Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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[Pharo-project] Mailinglist archive not working
by Torsten Bergmann May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Looks like the mail archive is not working: See http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-May/date.html last mail is from May 10 13:44:40 Anyone able to tell the inria admins... Thx T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] Configuration of Ring
by Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Dear all, The work on Ring is in progress. I have been experimenting with Ring in several tools: FileContentsBrowser (replacing the pseudo classes), Recent Message List and Recent Submissions (replacing the sourced method references), and Torch (extending its change model). An initial configuration of Ring is done. The repository is named Ring and it can be loaded in Pharo (Core or Dev) 1.2 and 1.3. For loading only the core: (ConfigurationOfRing project version: '1.3') load: 'MinimalCore'. Best Regards, Veronica Uquillas

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