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Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior
by Marcus Denker April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: > >> On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> [...] >>> We should have a way to track and document the changes we make in the image. >> >> Spoon will have a very fine-grained solution for this issue. >> Spoon will solve all of Squeak's problem since 10 years ;-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Marcus Denker April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Yes, and for consistency. Either we go "installer for all three platforms", >> or not. Having a one-click for all but windows in addition ist just >confusing. > > People often provide ZIP or TARs in open source projects for non-Windows > and special windows installers for M$ users. Its not uncommmon. > So the user can choose which one he wants to use. > Yes. So now that are two option: -> Delay everything until we have that. -> Not Delay everything. I am always for "Doing while Doing".... and this means: -> Finish the one-click build script and activate it for 1.3 and 1.4 This is not a lot of work, and then we hat *at least* what we had until know, fully auto-build and up to date. *After* that we can improve. But only after that. And there are lots of things on the list... -> fix the failing test in 1.3Full -> fix the remaining 1.4 bugs -> do the 1.4 release -> run tests on windows besided mac and linux -> actually run all tests *before* triggering the build of all depending projects -> integrate SSL -> merge nativeboost VM with man VM -> install Android Dev tools -> configure Android build -> Look at ARM build of interpreter The good news is that we got a bit more manpower lately... >> Does it make sense to have a download of 1.2 on the download page? > > Maybe I'm blind - but on the download page for the 1.2 version - YES: > Nobody should download 1.2... it's there just for historical reasons. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Torsten Bergmann April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

>Yes, and for consistency. Either we go "installer for all three platforms", >or not. Having a one-click for all but windows in addition ist just >confusing. People often provide ZIP or TARs in open source projects for non-Windows and special windows installers for M$ users. Its not uncommmon. So the user can choose which one he wants to use. It will only be confusing if an image in a x.y one click version of Pharo is different than in a Win32 setup with the same version. But this should be solved when all is based on the same Jenkins-built image as common source. There are good installers for all major platforms - but only commercial. Dont know about free installer projects for non-Windows platforms. Why not provide an installer depend on the environment and which one the user expects: For Linux I think an "apt-get pharo" would be suited similar to Squeak and for Windows a wizard guided installer. >Does it make sense to have a download of 1.2 on the download page? Maybe I'm blind - but on the download page for the 1.2 version - YES: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-2 Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Torsten Bergmann April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

>> I want a good installer for each platform :) >> >For newspeak there is a native installer for Mac OS and Windows. We already have/had a native Installer for Pharo on Windows. I already posted the script and resources for the free NSIS installer already on the list and also gave it to Igor. I've built them manually in the past. The idea was that the Jenkins Windows Slave should automatically build the setup. Looks like this is not yet done - maybe for time reasons. I wonder why they are removed from the homepages download section? However - one can still access the setup exe files at the inria files section [2] under "Pharo Win32 Setup". I still think that such an installer (which is standard on windows) is helpful for better adoption. Bye T. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg09522.ht… [2] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299&release_id=5962#pharo-win32-setu… -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] [ANN] Shootout benchmarking copied to ss3
by Nicolas Cellier April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

These benchmarks are good, so I took the port of Eliot from Cog VMMaker and made a package of its own. Since I cannot create a new project on squeaksource, I decided to try SS3. See http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Shootout.html/ http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Shootout.html/Wiki http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php Nicolas

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Re: [Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Marcus Denker March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> I want a good installer for each platform :) >>> >> For newspeak there is a native installer for Mac OS and Windows. > > We already have/had a native Installer for Pharo on Windows. > > I already posted the script and resources for the free NSIS installer > already on the list and also gave it to Igor. > > I've built them manually in the past. The idea was that the Jenkins > Windows Slave should automatically build the setup. Looks like this > is not yet done - maybe for time reasons. Yes, and for consistency. Either we go "installer for all three platforms", or not. Having a one-click for all but windows in addition ist just confusing. > I wonder why they are > removed from the homepages download section? > Does it make sense to have a download of 1.2 on the download page? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo1.4a#14407 one-click tests failing
by Marcus Denker March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

On Mar 31, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Martin Sandiford wrote: > There was a bug in timestamp handling for .changes that looks like it > was integrated in #14410. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5461 > > Without digging further, it looks like this might be the issue with > the two items below. I'd try a newer image. > Yes, this has been fixed and what is shows is that the one-click build is not using the latest image.... I guess because it's build is not triggered automatically. Will be fixed. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] Collection new printString make the image hanging
by Fabrizio Perin March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

Hi, I was coding in Pharo1.3 Latest update: #13315 By evaluating some tests again the emergency evaluator pop up (Pharo doesn't like me lately :) ). This time at least I figure that some elements i use in the tests do not print properly: <error in printString: evaluate "collection printString" to debug> so if you do Collection new printString. the image seems to hang the only was to stop it is to do command period. In 1.4 at least the debugger pops up telling that "do:" should be implemented in a subclass. To make the image hang you should do SequenceableCollection new printString. I don't know if those are suppose to be bugs or my inappropriate use of Collection and SequenceableCollection. I just reported. Cheers, Fabrizio

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14418
by Marcus Denker March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

14418 ----- Issue 5571: clean up #cleanUpForProduction a little more http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5571 Issue 5570: Strange deprecation http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5570 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiac on Linux
by Marcus Denker March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

On Mar 31, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote >> >> It most certainly works on servers, for me, and for others. >> > > The Zodiac one-click works, just not the Jenkins vm. It seems to be an issue > with the ssl plugin built by Jenkins. When I copy the ssl plugin from the > Zodiac alpha one-click into the Jenkins Cog vm, it works. Yes, the SSL build is not yet working... Camillo and Igor changed the build that it compiles with SSL (and NativeBoost) by default, but it's not yet working completely (that's why it was not announced yet). Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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