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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

Branch: refs/tags/40309 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 4a8185: 40309
by GitHub Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4a818514f3a4d113aea4fd664577e71dcd21bc3d https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4a818514f3a4d113aea4fd66… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-10-16 (Thu, 16 Oct 2014) Changed paths: M Nautilus.package/AbstractNautilusUI.class/class/menu/classesMenu_.st A Nautilus.package/AbstractNautilusUI.class/instance/menus behavior/inspectMethod.st A Nautilus.package/AbstractNautilusUI.class/instance/menus behavior/inspectMethods.st M Nautilus.package/MethodWidget.class/class/menu/elementsMenu_.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractScope.class/definition.st A OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractScope.class/instance/accessing/children.st A OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractScope.class/instance/initializing/addChild_.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/OCAbstractScope.class/instance/initializing/outerScope_.st M OpalTools.package/GTBytecodeBrowser.class/README.md M OpalTools.package/GTBytecodeBrowser.class/instance/building/sourceIn_.st A OpalTools.package/GTOpalScopeBrowser.class/README.md A OpalTools.package/GTOpalScopeBrowser.class/definition.st A OpalTools.package/GTOpalScopeBrowser.class/instance/building/compose.st A OpalTools.package/GTOpalScopeBrowser.class/instance/building/sourceIn_.st A OpalTools.package/GTOpalScopeBrowser.class/instance/building/treeIn_.st A OpalTools.package/extension/OCAbstractScope/instance/gtInspectorSourceCodeIn_.st A OpalTools.package/extension/OCAbstractScope/instance/sourceInterval.st A OpalTools.package/extension/RBProgramNode/instance/gtInspectorSymbolicBytecodeIn_.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script309.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40309.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Traits.package/TClassDescription.class/instance/compiling/compile_classified_withStamp_notifying_logSource_.st Log Message: ----------- 40309 14251 Add a scope browser: shows tree of scopes, corresponding source https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14251 14243 tiny refactoring in #compile:classified:withStamp:notifying:logSource: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14243 14231 add "inspect method" to method menu in browser and everywhere https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14231 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40309.zip

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compiled method inspector
by Nicolai Hess Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

The new inspector extensions for compiled methods are GREAT. I noticed some of them are in package GT-Inspector-Extensions-Core and some are in OpalTools. With the symbolic bytecode tab the other bytecode tab is not needed anymore, right? nicolai

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Some methods missing in Behavior
by jdelgado＠lsi.upc.edu Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

Yes, evaluate: (Behavior new) compile: 'thisIsATestÂ ^2' Bests, Jordi > >> On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:01, jdelgado(a)lsi.upc.edu wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some simple reflection tests (those using Behavior>>#compile:) do not >> work in Pharo 3.0 because Behavior>>#basicLocalSelectors and >> Behavior>>#basicLocalSelectors: do not longer exist. >> >> I added the methods to TBehavior and the tests worked again. Thus, my >> question is: Is there any deep/good reason why these methods were >> removed? Because nothing seems to be broken after I added them back. >> >> > Can you give some examples? > > Marcus > > > >

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 59c34d: 40308
by GitHub Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

Branch: refs/tags/40308 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files
by Nicolai Hess Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

There is a bug report on mantis for squeaks unix vm. I think this applies to pharo too, although I don't know if this bug is still valid on recent squeak vm. http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7522 2014-10-14 17:43 GMT+02:00 Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com>: > The OS is Arch Linux. > > I can read the file with less. > > The problem, insofar as I can trace it, seems to stem from this line in > UnixStore: > > Primitives lookupDirectory: encodedPath filename: encodedBasename > > When I have my 57G file there this line returns nil. If I move the 57G > file and create a small file with the same name, the same command > successfully finds the file. I am not sure how large a file must be to > cause this issue, but A 1.5G file works fine. > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> 2014-10-14 6:38 GMT+02:00 Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi, thanks for the reply. >>> >>> The response is the same: "MessageNotUnderstood: >>> False>>humanReadableSIByteSize." >>> >>> This happens both to print-it as well as to do-it-and-go. Running the >>> command on the neighboring "wiki.torrent" torrent file yields the correct >>> 54kb. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Evan >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I understand correctly, the failure occurs while navigating in the >>>> "Items" presentation. >>>> >>>> I cannot reproduce this problem because I do not have enough disk space >>>> for such a large file :). But, could you do the following and let me know >>>> what the outcome is: >>>> >>>> 'path/to/your/large/file.xml' asFileReference humanReadableSize >>>> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, I've run into some odd behavior and wanted to check whether I >>>>> might be missing something: >>>>> >>>>> I have downloaded a copy of the english wikipedia as an xml file and >>>>> am hoping to (sax) parse it. However, I can't even seem to get pharo to >>>>> recognize that the file exists. >>>>> >>>>> If I open FileSystem disk root in the playground and naigate, >>>>> attempting to enter the folder containing the (57G) xml file fails with >>>>> "MessageNotUnderstood: False>>humanReadableSIByteSize." Likewise if I get a >>>>> FileReference with FileSystem disk root / 'path' / 'to' / 'file' then self >>>>> exists returns false and the parser fails. >>>>> >>>>> Am I doing something wrong? Should I be able to do this? >>>>> >>>>> The version number is #40283 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Evan >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Which OS ? >> Can you check with other programs if this file is readable at all? >> >> >> >> >> Nicolai >> >> >> >

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[Screencast] Using ZnLogEvents and GT Tools to look at HTTP traffic behind Monticello
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Oct. 15, 2014

Oct. 15, 2014

Using ZnLogEvents and GT Tools to look at HTTP traffic behind Monticello. I love it when a plan comes together. Many small usability changes were added to GT Tools since they were included in Pharo 4. And a lot of small custom inspector presentations were added. http://youtu.be/rIBbeMdFCys (be sure to select the 720p version) This short screencast shows how to use ZnLogEvents and GT Tools in Pharo 4 to look at the HTTP traffic behing Monticello (more specifically, an MCSmalltalkhubRepository). This demonstrates how simple custom inspectors are combined to form a powerful tool - and how easy it is to learn about what is going on inside Pharo. Sven

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[Pharo4] Properties for classes
by Marcus Denker Oct. 15, 2014

Oct. 15, 2014

Hi, Methods, AST Nodes and all Ring Definitions can store properties. Now in Pharo4 update 307, Yuriy Tymchuk extended this idea to Behaviors. They are not stored when saving code (filing out or MC), as this would be on top (as are the Pragmas on Methods build on top of properties). TODO -> unify API across RB/CompiledMethod/Ring -> add properties to the Variable meta-objects (there is already a proof-of-concept in class LinkWrapper for one special kind of property) -> For sure there are bugs (while writing this I had one idea of one alreadyâ¦ need to check) This will not be used by the system itself for now, therefore we opted to store them not in an ivar but a classVar dictionary, so they do not take any space when not used (like CompiledMethod properties where realised in the beginning, too). Marcus

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creating custom browsers out of GTInspector extensions
by Tudor Girba Oct. 15, 2014

Oct. 15, 2014

Hi, Now, that more people are playing with the GTInspector, I would like to raise another point that might otherwise go unnoticed: The inspector extensions do not only work in the inspector, but can also be combined in other browsers as well. For example, the attached picture shows a Pillar browser that shows only the presentations relevant to editing Pillar books. And the code looks like: GLMPager new with: [ :pager | pager show: [ :composite :file | composite title: file basename. file gtInspectorItemsIn: composite. file gtInspectorPillarConfigurationIn: composite. file gtInspectorPillarIn: composite. file gtInspectorPillarProjectIn: composite. file gtInspectorPngIn: composite. file gtInspectorGifIn: composite. file gtInspectorContentsIn: composite ] ]; openOn: FileSystem disk workingDirectory [image: Inline image 1] See here some more details: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/creating-custom-browsers-out-of-inspe… The interesting thing is that we can now easily imagine creating rather sophisticated tools with little code and that we only use for a very short time (like minutes). This has a rather high disruption potential given that no other environment I know of allows for something like this. Let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

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