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Let's talk with Dr Metacello: Moving Pharo to Github
by Guillermo Polito Nov. 2, 2016

Nov. 2, 2016

Hi all, We arranged with Dale a public discussion on discord *this wednesday at 8am PDT (15h Paris)*. The idea is to discuss about the alternatives to store the Pharo sources in Git. Dale is already working on git since a couple of years, - he made has already experimented on a project using git submodules [1] - he is managing the GSDevKit/GLASS project in a kind of ad-hoc fashion (from what I understood in the discussion and looking at the repo...) [2] I was analyzing a bit the pros and cons of git submodules and git subtrees [3] The idea is that we discuss about these alternatives, we learn from the experience of Dale, and try to define some points about the architecture of Pharo source-code's storage in the future. See you there, [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/amber-skeleton [2] https://github.com/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home [3] https://github.com/guillep/PharoIntegrationProcess/wiki/Analysis-of-sub-pro…

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Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}
by phil＠highoctane.be Nov. 2, 2016

Nov. 2, 2016

Having them in image can indeed be useful. I am testing against REST backends, and well, this is a destructive test to say the least. Not easy to replay as much as I want. I hope that with the Bootstrap we'll be able to have a set of "Batteries Included" distributions. Kind of like we have Moose today, which I like very much as I do not have to load parts from all over the place. On http://tcl.tk there are also a number of such distributions: * the "Batteries Included" ActiveTcl (http://www.activestate.com/activetcl) with its various support levels [which would be good to emulate for the Pharo Pro business proposition] * TclKit / StarKits concept (http://wiki.tcl.tk/52) TclKit is a BaseKit. See http://wiki.tcl.tk/15985 for a table of kits and their supported features. * Build your own from sources. TclKit allows one to build special kit, using a command line tool, similar to what we discuss for loading packages easily. http://wiki.tcl.tk/10558 We do have an image and the TclKit has a VFS (Virtual File System) bundling everything in a single file. So, basically, one runs things with tclkit hello.kit. Quite reminiscent of pharo Pharo.image I'd say. Question 1: Which top 5 packages/configurations would you find useful to have available in a distribution? 1- 2- 3- 4- 5- Question 2: What do you consider to be the top 3 use cases of a Pharo Distribution for your own use? 1- 2- 3- Best, Phil ` On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-10-28 18:58 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > >> No, please, kernel test should have the fewer dependencies as possible! >> > I would say this dependency is needed. > >> And again i'll hold my position: whoever wants to load it can do it. >> There is no need to put it there by default. >> > Do you know how much easier it would be to design and test FileSystem with > mocks. Code and tests will be much better and simpler from the beginning. > And I could said it about any package which provide abstractions. > > Now no project which is part of Pharo can use mocks for tests. So it is > not question of loading it for own project. Pharo contributors can't use > mocks. > > And there is another story. Imaging Ruby guys join Pharo development (not > real story :)). Many years In Ruby people use mocks and "human should" > assertions. Most TDD evolution was from Ruby. I imaging their impression > about Pharo "the best for TDD". > > And generally I would said we have quite bad tests in system. They are > slow, they corrupt image. Mocks will help to improve this situation. >

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

Branch: refs/tags/60272 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 4536dc: 60272
by GitHub Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4536dc3e395029e3048320ccb034c2e201acd22d https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4536dc3e395029e3048320cc… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-10-31 (Mon, 31 Oct 2016) Changed paths: M ConfigurationOfTxText.package/ConfigurationOfTxText.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfTxText.package/ConfigurationOfTxText.class/instance/versions/version213_.st M Manifest-Tests.package/SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.class/instance/running/setUp.st M Manifest-Tests.package/SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.class/instance/tests/testCriticsOf.st M Manifest-Tests.package/SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.class/instance/tests/testIsFalsePositive.st M Manifest-Tests.package/SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.class/instance/tests/testIsToDo.st M Manifest-Tests.package/SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.class/instance/tests/testToDoOf.st M Nautilus.package/MethodIsExampleAction.class/instance/order/isActionHandled.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextExtra.class/instance/accessing/paragraphProvider.st R Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/testing/isParagraphProvider.st R Rubric.package/extension/Object/instance/isParagraphProvider.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60271.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60272.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60271.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60272.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st A Slot-Tests.package/ClassVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testIsReadInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/ClassVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testIsWrittenInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/ClassVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testNotReadInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/ClassVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testNotWrittenInMethodWhenItIsOnlyRead.st A Slot-Tests.package/GlobalVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testIsReadInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/GlobalVariableTest.class/instance/tests - properties/testNotWrittenInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/SlotTest.class/instance/testing - properties/testIsReadInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/SlotTest.class/instance/testing - properties/testIsWrittenInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/SlotTest.class/instance/testing - properties/testNotReadInMethod.st A Slot-Tests.package/SlotTest.class/instance/testing - properties/testNotWrittenInMethodWhenItIsOnlyRead.st R Slot.package/IndexedSlot.class/instance/meta-object-protocol/isVirtual.st A Slot.package/IndexedSlot.class/instance/testing/isVirtual.st A Slot.package/InstanceVariableSlot.class/instance/testing/isReadIn_.st A Slot.package/InstanceVariableSlot.class/instance/testing/isWrittenIn_.st A Slot.package/LiteralVariable.class/instance/testing/isReadIn_.st A Slot.package/LiteralVariable.class/instance/testing/isWrittenIn_.st A Slot.package/Slot.class/instance/testing/isReadIn_.st A Slot.package/Slot.class/instance/testing/isWrittenIn_.st R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxAthensRenderingTest.class/README.md R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxAthensRenderingTest.class/class/as yet unclassified/newText.st R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxAthensRenderingTest.class/class/as yet unclassified/test.st R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxAthensRenderingTest.class/definition.st R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxTextPositionToViewCoordinatesTest.class/README.md R TxText-AthensTests.package/TxTextPositionToViewCoordinatesTest.class/definition.st Log Message: ----------- 60272 19255 Update TxText https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19255 19258 Remove isParagraphProvider https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19258 19084 SmalllintManifestCheckerTest: failing tests https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19084 19253 Methods to check is variable, global or slot is read or modified in given CompiledCode https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19253 19261 Enable <example> methods to be executed https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19261 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60272.zip

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GTInspector table hides columns
by Peter UhnÃ¡k Oct. 30, 2016

Oct. 30, 2016

Hi, apparently inspector is happy to hide columns if they don't fit. Why is there no vertical scrollbar? â Also (I know I brought up this in the past, but the problem still remains), why does "Description" takes up so much space even though there's no data at all? Why not cap it at the width of the heading? Thanks, Peter

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Odd literal in metaclasses methods
by Henrik Nergaard Oct. 29, 2016

Oct. 29, 2016

Every method implemented in the class side includes a literal: "nil->theMetaClass". Object class methods collect: [ :cm | cm literals last ]. What is it used for? Best regards, Henrik

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]
by GitHub Oct. 29, 2016

Oct. 29, 2016

Branch: refs/tags/60271 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 955c8b: 60271
by GitHub Oct. 29, 2016

Oct. 29, 2016

Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 955c8b6b44eb169ec6b4066d8c025563cfde61c5 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/955c8b6b44eb169ec6b4066d… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-10-29 (Sat, 29 Oct 2016) Changed paths: A Alien.package/AlienSunit.class/instance/testing/testParser.st M ConfigurationOfUnifiedFFI.package/ConfigurationOfUnifiedFFI.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfUnifiedFFI.package/ConfigurationOfUnifiedFFI.class/instance/versions/v0%5F24_.st M FFI-Kernel.package/ExternalObject.class/class/class initialization/initialize.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/stepAt_in_.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/stepIn_.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/stepTime.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/stepTimeIn_.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/wantsSteps.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - stepping/wantsStepsIn_.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - updating/okToChange.st A Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/model - updating/windowIsClosing.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/stepAt_in_.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/stepIn_.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/stepTime.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/stepTimeIn_.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/wantsSteps.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/stepping/wantsStepsIn_.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/updating/okToChange.st R Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/updating/windowIsClosing.st M Network-Mail.package/MailComposition.class/instance/interface/addAttachment.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/MorphicUIManager.class/instance/ui requests/chooseFileMatching_label_.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/UITheme.class/instance/services/chooseFileNameIn_title_patterns_path_preview_.st M Rubric.package/RubLipsumWithSegmentsExample.class/instance/accessing/loremIpsum.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60270.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60271.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60270.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60271.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/accessing/announcer.st R System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/as yet unclassified/announcer.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/changed.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/changed_.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/changed_with_.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/okToChange.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/update_with_.st A System-Model.package/Model.class/instance/updating/windowIsClosing.st R UIManager.package/NonInteractiveUIManager.class/instance/ui requests/chooseFileMatching_label_.st R UIManager.package/UIManager.class/instance/ui requests/chooseFileMatching_.st R UIManager.package/UIManager.class/instance/ui requests/chooseFileMatching_label_.st A UnifiedFFI.package/FFIExternalReference.class/class/instance creation/newPointer.st A UnifiedFFI.package/FFIExternalStructureType.class/instance/initialization/prepareAsSelfFromCalloutDeclaration.st M UnifiedFFI.package/FFITypeArray.class/README.md A UnifiedFFI.package/LibC.class/class/misc/loadLibrary_.st A UnifiedFFI.package/LibC.class/class/misc/system_.st A UnifiedFFI.package/LibC.class/instance/misc/loadLibrary_.st A UnifiedFFI.package/LibC.class/instance/misc/system_.st A UnifiedFFI.package/extension/ExternalAddress/class/newPointer.st Log Message: ----------- 60271 19252 Implement Model specific methods from Object into Model https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19252 19016 Are UIManager>>chooseFileMatching: and friends really useful? https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19016 19254 Improve RubLipsumWithSegmentsExample>>#loremIpsum https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19254 19249 Simple Shell Command Eval was gone in Pharo 6 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19249 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60271.zip

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GitHub code analytics tools
by Denis Kudriashov Oct. 28, 2016

Oct. 28, 2016

Hi. With future transition to github I ask myself what tools we will have out of the box. I google a bit and found these nice service http://ghv.artzub.com. Try to search guillep and then pharo-core. It looks really nice. What other online services you know to analyse github projects?

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CI's down ?
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Oct. 28, 2016

Oct. 28, 2016

It seems that since a couple of days the CI's are down ? https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/

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