September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub - REST API :) (a.k.a. Sorry, if I broke it...^^)
by Stephan Eggermont Sept. 24, 2013

Sept. 24, 2013

Hi Marcel, >my goal is to find the big ones to take a closer look at. Thus, next steps would be to fetch the latest MCZ of all projects and then analyze their contents. :) That is in DeprecationFinder. (load in a Moose 4.8 after loading NeoJSon). Current analysis is just getting the invocations from a MooseMonticelloImporter for the latest packageversion. It needs to be extended to also walk the team projects. Further steps would be to make it incremental and have a fuel file as artefact in a Jenkins build. Stephan

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SHA1 changed ??
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Sept. 24, 2013

Sept. 24, 2013

Max, Why was the contract of SHA1>>hashStream: changed ? It used to return a ByteArray like other HashFunction subclasses, now it returns an Integer. I see that you also changed the tests with this assumption. MD5 hashMessage: 'foo'. #[172 189 24 219 76 194 248 92 237 239 101 79 204 196 164 216] SHA1 hashMessage: 'foo'. 68123873083688143418383284816464454849230703155 It broke Zinc-WebSockets in 3.0 and now I will have to do an ugly hack to make the code work on multiple Pharo versions. Can you please explain ? Sven

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Use pharo users mailing list
by Stephan Eggermont Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

Hannes wrote: > In reply to this post by Stephan Eggermont > On 9/23/13, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Kilon wrote > >>Here is a radical suggestion you probably don't want to hear. > >>Close down Pharo users mailing list, redirect everyone to stackoverflow. > > > > Definitely not. Stackoverflow is nearly dead, and seriously unsuitable for > > small languages. > > There are obstacles but one cannot say that it is "seriously > unsuitable". I feel fully qualified to make that statement. Getting voted on by majority views is not exactly what we need. Especially not in a cargo-cult driven profession. > >Good questions will get closed by clueless people. > Mostly if the form does not fit. Nope. there has been a strong change in what is deemed to be an acceptable question on SO in the past years. And not in the right direction. I know several posters here who have been bitten by that. > And if there are Pharo people (maybe earned in another area) with > enough reputation points this may be prevented That would be nice, but isn't the case. Stackoverflow doesn't work like that. > > Good answers will get downvoted because they go against majority > > views. > > Why? Because stackoverflow is an opinion site, dominated by popularity. Nobody says an answer has to be right. Like I said, take a look at questions on OODBs. > >The ranking system is heavily skewed towards popular languages. > > It is based on the number of hits which is naturally less in less > popular languages. > However subcommunities may function well in stackoverflow. No, not really. It means that members of subcommunities have less rights and power. There is no value in subdividing our community further. Stephan

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[update 2.0] #20419
by Marcus Denker Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

20419 ----- 11502 Override Class >> #setName: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11502 There is a dirty package after this, it will be fixed in 420. Marcus

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[regression reporter]regression occurred
by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation/label=ma… 1 regressions found. KernelTests.Classes.ClassTest.testClassRespectsPolymorphismWithTrait

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[regression reporter]regression occurred
by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation/label=wi… 1 regressions found. KernelTests.Classes.ClassTest.testClassRespectsPolymorphismWithTrait

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[regression reporter]regression occurred
by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation/label=li… 1 regressions found. KernelTests.Classes.ClassTest.testClassRespectsPolymorphismWithTrait

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Help with reviewing needed
by Marcus Denker Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

Hi, It would really be helpful if more people would review: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/36/Review because if it has to wait for me, it might wait for a very long time. Marcus

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Integration Process
by Camillo Bruni Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

I spent today 10mins explaining step by step on how to regular Pharo programmers how to create a bugfix for Pharo! THIS IS BAD! There are many more motivated Pharo programmers outside RMoD, and I am sure that quite some of them would actually provide bug fixes. The current bug-report process has a way too steep learning curve. There are a few things we have to change here: 1. make bugs.pharo.org finally work with dots in the email message 2. make bugs.pharo.org automatically send a password reset request (in the worst case we do a redirect/curl on the normal fogbugz site) 3. make the anonymous inbox work on the smalltalkhub 4. reactivate the SLICE submitter in the image So who takes responsibility? I will take care of point 4 during the following Week. Plus I made an 8 minute screencast with all the details of the integration: https://vimeo.com/75183993

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Extending HelpTopic
by kilon Sept. 23, 2013

Sept. 23, 2013

Ok my first slice is up and ready https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11656/In-HelpTopic-when-a-subtopic-is-add… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11656/In-HelpTopic-when-a-subtopic-is-add…> I uploaded all 3 files created by monticello for the slice. Take a look and tell me if I had anything wrong :) here is the summary of the enhancement " When subtopic are added to topic HelpTopic does not track the ownership of a topic. So its impossible to say if a HelpTopic instance has an owner (another topic that uses it as subtopic) and if yes what is that owner. I have added a owner instance variable to the class instance and I also forced both addSubtopic: and subtopics: methods to add self as owner of subtopics added. I also created a test to test ownership which was added to the corresponding Test package. I attach the slice with the code. This is my first slice , please advice for any further action." I want to use owner instance variable as a way to track the hierarchy of subtopics. Because the way HelpTopic classes works right now when you add a subtopic , the topic knows that it has subtopics and which subtopics are but the subtopics themselves which are also instances of HelpTopic they don't know who the owner is. As it currently is the hierarchy is handled by the help tool TreeMoprh , but I did not like the fact that it depends on a moph to find out ownership of subtopics. So I am open to suggestions, ideas and thoughts. I will probably further extend HelpTopic , but this was my first slice so I decided to start small. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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