April 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior
by Marcus Denker April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:22, Lawson English wrote: > >> On 4/1/12 5:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> [...] >>> We should have a way to track and document the changes we make in the image. >> >> Spoon will have a very fine-grained solution for this issue. >> Spoon will solve all of Squeak's problem since 10 years ;-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Marcus Denker April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Yes, and for consistency. Either we go "installer for all three platforms", >> or not. Having a one-click for all but windows in addition ist just >confusing. > > People often provide ZIP or TARs in open source projects for non-Windows > and special windows installers for M$ users. Its not uncommmon. > So the user can choose which one he wants to use. > Yes. So now that are two option: -> Delay everything until we have that. -> Not Delay everything. I am always for "Doing while Doing".... and this means: -> Finish the one-click build script and activate it for 1.3 and 1.4 This is not a lot of work, and then we hat *at least* what we had until know, fully auto-build and up to date. *After* that we can improve. But only after that. And there are lots of things on the list... -> fix the failing test in 1.3Full -> fix the remaining 1.4 bugs -> do the 1.4 release -> run tests on windows besided mac and linux -> actually run all tests *before* triggering the build of all depending projects -> integrate SSL -> merge nativeboost VM with man VM -> install Android Dev tools -> configure Android build -> Look at ARM build of interpreter The good news is that we got a bit more manpower lately... >> Does it make sense to have a download of 1.2 on the download page? > > Maybe I'm blind - but on the download page for the 1.2 version - YES: > Nobody should download 1.2... it's there just for historical reasons. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Torsten Bergmann April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

>Yes, and for consistency. Either we go "installer for all three platforms", >or not. Having a one-click for all but windows in addition ist just >confusing. People often provide ZIP or TARs in open source projects for non-Windows and special windows installers for M$ users. Its not uncommmon. So the user can choose which one he wants to use. It will only be confusing if an image in a x.y one click version of Pharo is different than in a Win32 setup with the same version. But this should be solved when all is based on the same Jenkins-built image as common source. There are good installers for all major platforms - but only commercial. Dont know about free installer projects for non-Windows platforms. Why not provide an installer depend on the environment and which one the user expects: For Linux I think an "apt-get pharo" would be suited similar to Squeak and for Windows a wizard guided installer. >Does it make sense to have a download of 1.2 on the download page? Maybe I'm blind - but on the download page for the 1.2 version - YES: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-2 Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] Windows Installer (was: direct object manipulation)
by Torsten Bergmann April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

>> I want a good installer for each platform :) >> >For newspeak there is a native installer for Mac OS and Windows. We already have/had a native Installer for Pharo on Windows. I already posted the script and resources for the free NSIS installer already on the list and also gave it to Igor. I've built them manually in the past. The idea was that the Jenkins Windows Slave should automatically build the setup. Looks like this is not yet done - maybe for time reasons. I wonder why they are removed from the homepages download section? However - one can still access the setup exe files at the inria files section [2] under "Pharo Win32 Setup". I still think that such an installer (which is standard on windows) is helpful for better adoption. Bye T. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg09522.ht… [2] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299&release_id=5962#pharo-win32-setu… -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] [ANN] Shootout benchmarking copied to ss3
by Nicolas Cellier April 1, 2012

April 1, 2012

These benchmarks are good, so I took the port of Eliot from Cog VMMaker and made a package of its own. Since I cannot create a new project on squeaksource, I decided to try SS3. See http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Shootout.html/ http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Shootout.html/Wiki http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php Nicolas

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