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Re: [Pharo-project] Downloading 1.4
by Marcus Denker July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 26 July 2011 21:23, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >> Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> >>> and the question remains same. :) >>> As you can see the Carbon VMs which are built by Hudson having 4.0.0 >>> version. >>> So, what is VM you using? >>> >> >> It's the one at http://www.squeakvm.org/mac/release/Squeak%204.2.5beta1U.zip >> >> Is that what you're asking? >> > > Yes. > So, you using an old released VM instead of development version. > Should work. Unless before you run your image with Cog and saved it.. > Then some older VMs refusing to open it. > Yes, and as I don't use an old VM, the image that Jenkins starts with is saved in the new format. And no, I will *not* change that. I changed that for 1.3, but 1.4 is 1.4. We need to move on. > Jenkins server (who builds 1.4 images now) are using quite old unix > VM. So there should be no problems with image format. > (or maybe we already using stack VM for building 1.4 images, which > using new image format?) > The unix vm on the server can read images saved with Cog. Marcus -- Marcus Denker Do it together: http://taskfor.us

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Re: [Pharo-project] Downloading 1.4
by Marcus Denker July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Marcus Denker-4 wrote: >> >> Is it really realistic to support 20 differents VMs? Who is going to test? >> > > I'm sure that once the new VMs stabilize, it will not be an issue, but given > that the Stack/Cog VMs do not have all the plugins, what do you suggest for > right now? We should fix the VMs. We can *not* support to run on all old VMs. Marcus -- Marcus Denker Do it together: http://taskfor.us

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[Pharo-project] Downloading 1.4
by Sean P. DeNigris July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

How to I download 1.4? I don't see it on the website or ci server. Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Downloading-1-4-tp3696454p3696454.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 Seaside 'client' build ?
by Marcus Denker July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi (Marcus), > > I was looking for a Pharo 1.3 Seaside 'client' build on the CI server(s) but couldn't find it. > > It used to be available for 1.2.x (this seems to be gone as well). > > I think that for good reciprocal relations with Seaside, it would be very good to have a tested build of the current main Pharo images. It make a good testcase as well. And it saves quite some work, loading the Seaside config is pretty slow. > > I remember reading something about some clients being removed from the CI's, but I didn't register it fully. > Yes, I will add that to the new Jenkis setup asap. (some of the next days). > Thx, > > Sven > > PS: Another questions is: is 1.3 'released', if so where are the links on the website, where is the 'noise' ? We should fix the last open reports, create a new one-click and do the releaseâ¦ http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.3 -- Marcus Denker Do it together: http://taskfor.us

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14057
by StÃ©phane Ducasse July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

14057 ----- - Issue 4513: ScrollBar and MorphicModel needs cleaning. Stef and Igor killing tha big monster - Part two. :) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4513 Gary it would be good that you check because we have two ways to to a perform: accessor and setValueSelector while only one would be enough. Stef and Igor

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[Pharo-project] Cog-Mac-Cocoa + OSProcess problem
by laurent laffont July 26, 2011

July 26, 2011

Hi Esteban, using last built of Cog-Mac-Cocoa VM, my image crashes as soon as it opens because of OSProcess. Works with StackVM 4.0 The image is Pharo1.3 with SmallHarbour (smallharbour.org) loaded. You can download the image from http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/SmallHarbourCrash.zip The log: *** Warning: Warning: OSProcess not available or OSProcess plugin not functioning THERE_BE_DRAGONS_HERE MessageNotUnderstood: PipeableOSProcess class>>output 26 July 2011 9:21:12 am VM: Mac OS - intel - 1070 - Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-IgorStasenko.96] 21.0 Image: Pharo1.3 [Latest update: #13287] PipeableOSProcess class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #output Receiver: PipeableOSProcess Arguments and temporary variables: aMessage: output exception: MessageNotUnderstood: PipeableOSProcess class>>output resumeValue: nil Receiver's instance variables: superclass: PipeJunction methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addToErrorPipeline:->(PipeableOSProcess>>#addTo...etc... format: 148 instanceVariables: #('pipeFromError' 'processProxy' 'keepInitialStdOutOpen' 'ke...etc... organization: ('command pipelines - private' addToErrorPipeline: prepareOutputF...etc... subclasses: nil name: #PipeableOSProcess classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) category: #'CommandShell-Piping' traitComposition: {} localSelectors: nil UnixProcess>>waitForCommandOutput: Receiver: a UnixProcess with pid nil Arguments and temporary variables: aCommandString: 'openssl passwd -crypt -quiet -noverify "a"' Receiver's instance variables: pid: nil sessionID: nil stdIn: nil stdOut: nil stdErr: nil processAccessor: a UnixOSProcessAccessor on pid nil allMyChildren: a Dictionary() accessProtect: a Semaphore() ppid: nil pthread: nil path: nil programName: nil arguments: nil environment: nil SHSystemLayer>>waitForProcessCommandOutput: Receiver: a SHSystemLayer Arguments and temporary variables: aString: 'openssl passwd -crypt -quiet -noverify "a"' Receiver's instance variables: osProcess: a UnixProcess with pid nil Cheers, Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

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[Pharo-project] pharo ide task force - morphic issues
by Tudor Girba July 25, 2011

July 25, 2011

Hi, Here is a list of Morphic-related issues that would make the work on the Pharo IDE easier. Btw, if you want to join this cool task force, all you have to do is announce yourself and I offer to provide tasks :). === Keymappings should work with Morph instances - Currently, Keymappings define the keys for all instances of a morph class. This is not useful when we want to create new user interfaces. - Nevertheless, it would be great if we could use the same infrastructure both as it is used now for defining image-wise shortcuts and for controlling instance-based mappings === PluggableTextMorph / TextMorph should provide a means to announce the current selection - Currently, to get notified of when the selection changed, we need to create three subclasses (see below). This solution does not work well with other GLMPluggableTextMorph>>textMorphClass ^ GLMTextMorphForEditView GLMTextMorphForEditView>>editorClass ^ GLMSmalltalkEditor GLMSmalltalkEditor>>storeSelectionInParagraph super storeSelectionInParagraph. self morph ifNotNil: [ self morph editView announceSelectionFrom: self startIndex to: self stopIndex - 1 ] === The label of a TabMorph should shrink to fit the space - Right now a tab with a large title will expand the bounds of the tab. - We would need the possibility to limit the size of the title to the size of the contents. Ideally, there should be some abbreviation (with ...) of the title. === MorphTreeMorph should expand the embedded morphs horizontally - Currently, a row in the MorphTreeMorph takes the preferred size of the embedded morph. Instead, it should expand the row horizontally to fill the space. Or at least we should have the option to have it like that - MorphTreeMorph inherits from ScrollPane. I think it would be great to get it inherit from GeneralScrollPane. Or maybe there is a better solution. === In place editing of items in a list morph - It would be great to have the possibility of editing an item in a list morph in place, rather than being forced to open a dialogue === The button icons in Scrollbar and Expander should work with forms defined in UITheme - Currently, the buttons from Scrollbar and Expander create the arrow icons by drawing them directly. This does not work well with the other icons in the theme. - Instead, the Theme should have a means to provide a form for drawing these === A flexible layout - The idea is to offer a mechanism that would enable us to collapse a pane, and have the rest of the panes expand to fill the space - There is a start of an implementation, but we need to integrate this deeper. - See the thread from: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-January/040408.ht… === Integrate TWM windows grouping mechanism - I know that for it to work, it requires some changesets that need to be filed in. - It would be great if they were integrated :) - See thread: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-June/050116.html Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."

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[Pharo-project] A request or suggestion.
by Friedrich Dominicus July 25, 2011

July 25, 2011

I'm still not realyl understanding the pharo Morph stuff. So I just want to ask. Would it be possible/feasable to group windows. E.g I'd have a group of Workspaces a group of Browsers etc. Currently if the windows just pop open it's hard to find a workspace one may be interested. If there would be a group this should be much easier. Regards Friedrich

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July 25, 2011

Hi guys I will be offline or busy with kids for some days and I wanted to make a list of todos for when I want to do something. - Integrate FS - step one add FS packages - step two integrated = use FS - Add RBengine - step one add RBEngine packages - step two (check RPackage changes) - Add OCompletion - Add Ecompletion - Integrate SystemAnnouncer - step one load package - would be cool to convert SystemChangeNotifierTest into tests usable for SystemAnnouncer (even if RPackage has a lot of tests). - step two replace SystemChangeNotifier emission - Integrate Ring - SystemNavigation should use Ring Objects - Replace Source* and MethodReference by Ring Object May be I missed some points but it would be good to have that in 1.4 Stef

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[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 Seaside 'client' build ?
by Sven Van Caekenberghe July 25, 2011

July 25, 2011

Hi (Marcus), I was looking for a Pharo 1.3 Seaside 'client' build on the CI server(s) but couldn't find it. It used to be available for 1.2.x (this seems to be gone as well). I think that for good reciprocal relations with Seaside, it would be very good to have a tested build of the current main Pharo images. It make a good testcase as well. And it saves quite some work, loading the Seaside config is pretty slow. I remember reading something about some clients being removed from the CI's, but I didn't register it fully. Thx, Sven PS: Another questions is: is 1.3 'released', if so where are the links on the website, where is the 'noise' ?

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