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[Pharo-project] Class Comments from Squeak (was Re: [COTDC] 85 - HashedCollection)
by DeNigris Sean Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

<quote author="Nicolas Cellier"> The Squeak trunk version is: </quote> Great idea - low hanging fruit: Issue 5034 in pharo: Harvest class comments from Squeak http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5034

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[Pharo-project] What happened to COTDC?
by Sean P. DeNigris Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

We seemed to be doing so well... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-happened-to-COTDC-tp4110480p4110480.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] fosdem smalltalk devroom
by Paolo Bonzini Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

Hi all, is there a mailing list or website set up for discussing the program for the devroom? Thanks, Paolo

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Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic replacement
by Fernando Olivero Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

Hi, thanks all for the positive reactions. Doru, i've diddnt have a release date in mind, but now that i'm aware that there's an interest in the community for such type of work, i will try to produce a release within the next two months. Fernando On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > So, when is this release to be expected? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Sean P. DeNigris > <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >> Fernando olivero-2 wrote >>> >>> found much more productive the approach of rewriting it from scratch. >>> >> Me too. I always started using Morphic, but every time I got stuck, I would >> go deeper and deeper and always end up starting to make my own TextMorph, >> lol. >> >> >> Fernando olivero-2 wrote >>> >>> No World as a subclass of PasteUpMorph >>> >> Glad to hear that. PasteUpMorph has identity issues :) >> >> >> Fernando olivero-2 wrote >>> >>> Hope that very soon i can provide more details, but my plans are to >>> release it as part of the next Gaucho version, to provide a working >>> example. >>> >> >> Excellent, thanks! >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Morphic-replacement-tp4106870p4113468.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > "Every thing has its own flow" > >

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Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic Cleanup Status
by Fernando Olivero Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

Differently from what i've shown you at ESUG, i didn't reify the events. The vm announces a new event to the GUserInterface, who dispatches the event to the mouse or the keyboard. Which in turn, according to its inner state (modeled using a fsm), sends a message to the user interface, such as #clickedAt: , #secondaryClickedAt: , #move: #moveDragging:, #keystroke: aGKeystroke, etc.. The following diagram depicts the scheme. Fernando On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > >> Hi Sean, i got overwhelmed last year with the task of porting CUIS >> Morphic, to Pharo. There's just to much differences on several common >> classes, it's hard to fully understand how to merge both ui >> frameworks. >> >> Even though i believe Juan has a did an excellent work in simplifying >> Morphic, and adding simpler code, like for example his new layouts >> (download CUIS and try them out). >> >> But my overall impression , was that we need to stop being backward >> compatible in order to create a simple Morphic-like framework for >> Pharo, and start from scratch. Fixing current Morphic is also a >> humongous Â task, for example see Stef's nice work on cleaning the >> event handling mechanism. > > BTW you should be able to use the new event hierarchy: it is clean (no first secondâ¦..) and a nice support for double > dispatch. I hope that next week I can sit with igor and we finish our journey. > How do you deal with event in Gaucho. > > Stef >> >> Fernando >> >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Le 25/11/2011 07:39, Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : >>>> What's currently in progress? SimpleMorphic? CUIS related? Other? >>>> >>>> I was pulling my hair out with Morphic layouts yesterday and started to >>>> clean, but I don't want to duplicate efforts on things already being worked >>>> on. There are a bunch of open issues and discussions on the list. What's >>>> actively being done right now? >>> Hi Sean, >>> AFAIK, no deep cleaning action. nothing from my side for now. >>> I think they have done some refactoring around layout managing in CUIS >>> (SimpleMorphic). >>> btw, **thanks a lot** for all you are doing. >>> Cheers >>> Alain >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Morphic-Cleanup-Status-tp4106566p4106566.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

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[Pharo-project] Morphic Cleanup Status
by Sean P. DeNigris Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

What's currently in progress? SimpleMorphic? CUIS related? Other? I was pulling my hair out with Morphic layouts yesterday and started to clean, but I don't want to duplicate efforts on things already being worked on. There are a bunch of open issues and discussions on the list. What's actively being done right now? Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Morphic-Cleanup-Status-tp4106566p4106566.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[Pharo-project] World intermittently becoming a mess
by Sean P. DeNigris Nov. 28, 2011

Nov. 28, 2011

Every once in a while, in my 1.3-rc image, the World becomes a mess. Specifically: * moving windows without the fast dragging setting enabled leaves a trail * previews from hovering over the task bar remain in the World and don't delete themselves when the mouse is no longer over the task bar I haven't been able to reproduce it, but it's happened a few times. Has anyone else experienced this? I opened an issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5013 -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/World-intermittently-becoming-a-mess-tp4101204p410120… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] installer on l*n*x ?
by Mariano Martinez Peck Nov. 27, 2011

Nov. 27, 2011

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Alan Rodas <alanrodas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, the previous link had a problem...use this one > > http://www.4shared.com/file/5F64qhKL/smalltalk_intaller.html? > > Cheers > -- > Alan Rodas Bonjour > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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Re: [Pharo-project] Building 32-bit Cairo library on Macs
by Fernando Olivero Nov. 27, 2011

Nov. 27, 2011

nice! thanks a lot for dealing with the ugliness outside the smalltalk world, so we mortals can deal with higher level languages. Looking forward to see an Athens binding to Cairo. Fernando On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > cool > We want more :) > > Stef > > On Nov 25, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Just to let you know: >> >> it works on Mac! >> I just loaded the code which Javier did for linux, changed path to >> library and it worked out of the box. >> all examples in [1] are working out of the box! >> >> So, now i can start wiring Cairo backend for Athens :) >> >> [1] http://squeaksource.com/NBCairo/ >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > >

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[Pharo-project] [ANN] First try: Fuel for Squeak
by Mariano Martinez Peck Nov. 27, 2011

Nov. 27, 2011

Hi guys. After a couple of efforts from Martin Dias and I, we have a "working" Fuel serializer for Squeak. I used the quotes because all I could do is to run tests. Fuel is a binary serializer and you can find all the information in http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel This is a project sponsored by ESUG SummerTalk and mainly developed by Martin Dias. I only tried in a Squeak 4.2 image. To install it: (Installer monticello http: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss') project: 'Fuel'; install: 'ConfigurationOfFuel'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFuel) project version: '1.8-baseline') load. Most tests are green. There are only 2 categories of tests failing: 1) those under the category 'FuelTests-InternalMetalevel'. This is because Squeak has removed the traits there are in Pharo and hence most tests fails. However, this stuff of "InternalMetalevel" is only used if you want to serialize classes/traits completely. Most of the cases, the user just wants to serialize a class/trait as global (just serialize its name) and then during materialization it just searches the class. Of course, in the image where you materialize, such classes have to be present. 2) some tests that are long and it seems in squeak there is a timeout that make those tests to fail. As always, we appreciate any feedback. Cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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