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[Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?
by Johannes Rasche Nov. 12, 2011

Nov. 12, 2011

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Pharo-project] TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor? Datum: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:34:47 +0100 Von: Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)me.com> Antwort an: johannesrasche(a)me.com An: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr as Igor mentioned yesterday it's useful for long texts. I would suggest, if the majority don't see the advantage of pred/succ, to create a subclass Johannes Am 11.11.11 14:43, schrieb Alain Plantec: > I forgot to say that I think we should simplify TextMorph as much as > possible. > I've already removed predecessor/successsor some time ago for my own > textmorph fork. > I open an isssue > Alain > > Le 11/11/2011 10:38, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : >> Thanks. >> Yes, i remember i seen this before, but i had no idea how it >> implemented. >> >> On 10 November 2011 18:36, Alain Plantec<alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>> Hi Igor, >>> See the screenshot (Squeak 3.6). >>> You can have several morphs editing the same text. >>> Each morph containing its own part of the text. >>> I guess predecessor ans successor are used in this context. >>> Cheers >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> Le 10/11/2011 16:50, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : >>>> looks like the purpose is to make multiple morphs, displaying >>>> different (but adjacent) portions of one text.. >>>> >>>> But what i don't understand is what is the practical use of it? Is >>>> there an examples of such use of TextMorph(s)? >>>> As to me this looks a bit of over-enineering: >>>> morph represents a view of some model. >>>> Nothing prevents us from creating multiple different views of same >>>> model (a text in this case). And i don't get, what do we gain by >>>> letting them know about each other. >>>> If there is a need to have a coordination between views, i think it >>>> would be much simpler to have some centralized parent object/morph, >>>> which managing additional complexity related with such >>>> composition. >>>> >>>> >>>> The functionality seems to be working: >>>> in text morph's halo, click on its menu , and there will be >>>> 'add predecessor' >>>> and >>>> 'add successor' >>>> menu items, which creating a fresh text morphs over same text and put >>>> it in ?hand? >>>> >>>> i am clueless, what is purpose of this and whether it belongs to right >>>> place.. that's why i asking. >>>> (i would just throw it away ;) >>>> >>> >> >> > >

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[Pharo-project] Idea for Seaside/Pharo/DrGeo project
by Hilaire Fernandes Nov. 12, 2011

Nov. 12, 2011

I start to receive more and more sketches produced with DrGeo. Once Laurent told me it will be nice to have web site for DrGeo using Seaside or any other Smalltalk web framework. Now I see you it could be nice: - From DrGeo user could upload sketch to the web server - The web server with the adhoc drgeo code, could render the uploaded sketches - The user could also download from DrGeo remote sketch on the web server. Of course tagging system will be used to categorize the sketch. Anyone interested? I can guarantee no paying! Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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[Pharo-project] DrGeo Enlgish video tutorial
by Hilaire Fernandes Nov. 12, 2011

Nov. 12, 2011

I remember some of you were upset with the French commented video tutorials on DrGeo I produced. So I start a new series with English comments. http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2011/11/12/English-video-tutor… -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin to trigger Jenkins build when there are squeaksource commits
by Marcus Denker Nov. 12, 2011

Nov. 12, 2011

On Nov 11, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys. It seems the Jenkins of Pharo is using the plugin "URL Change Trigger" which is deprecated and I cannot install it. > The new plugin is URLTrigger Plugin but I don't know how to configure it with SqueakSource. Do you know? does it work? > We should install it. But it needs a newer version of Jenkins than we have. Which means we should check how to update the Jenkins INRIA installation.... It is on my TODO, but I fear it will take a while till I find time to look at this. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] WG: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?
by Johannes Rasche Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

ï»¿ Johannes Rasche Hagelberger Str. 56 10965 Berlin fon +49-30-315 66 820 mobil -49-1577 175 04 75 Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com> > Datum: 11. November 2011 22:13:26 > An: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Betreff: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor? > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-project] TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor? > Datum: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:34:47 +0100 > Von: Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)me.com> > > Antwort an: johannesrasche(a)me.com > > An: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > as Igor mentioned yesterday it's useful for long texts. > > I would suggest, if the majority don't see the advantage of pred/succ, > to create a subclass > > Johannes > > Am 11.11.11 14:43, schrieb Alain Plantec: > > I forgot to say that I think we should simplify TextMorph as much as > > possible. > > I've already removed predecessor/successsor some time ago for my own > > textmorph fork. > > I open an isssue > > Alain > > > > Le 11/11/2011 10:38, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > >> Thanks. > >> Yes, i remember i seen this before, but i had no idea how it > >> implemented. > >> > >> On 10 November 2011 18:36, Alain Plantec<alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi Igor, > >>> See the screenshot (Squeak 3.6). > >>> You can have several morphs editing the same text. > >>> Each morph containing its own part of the text. > >>> I guess predecessor ans successor are used in this context. > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Alain > >>> > >>> Le 10/11/2011 16:50, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > >>>> looks like the purpose is to make multiple morphs, displaying > >>>> different (but adjacent) portions of one text.. > >>>> > >>>> But what i don't understand is what is the practical use of it? Is > >>>> there an examples of such use of TextMorph(s)? > >>>> As to me this looks a bit of over-enineering: > >>>> morph represents a view of some model. > >>>> Nothing prevents us from creating multiple different views of same > >>>> model (a text in this case). And i don't get, what do we gain by > >>>> letting them know about each other. > >>>> If there is a need to have a coordination between views, i think it > >>>> would be much simpler to have some centralized parent object/morph, > >>>> which managing additional complexity related with such > >>>> composition. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The functionality seems to be working: > >>>> in text morph's halo, click on its menu , and there will be > >>>> 'add predecessor' > >>>> and > >>>> 'add successor' > >>>> menu items, which creating a fresh text morphs over same text and put > >>>> it in ?hand? > >>>> > >>>> i am clueless, what is purpose of this and whether it belongs to right > >>>> place.. that's why i asking. > >>>> (i would just throw it away ;) > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > >

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14222
by Marcus Denker Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

14222 ----- Issue 4955: Improve behavior of MorphTreeMorph when left key is pressed http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4955 Issue 4939: Failing Tests: ClosureCompilerTest http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4939 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14225
by Marcus Denker Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

14225 ----- Issue 4992: Small Morph cleanup (#tempCommand) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4992 Issue 4991: Move ModifiedMethodEvent out of System Debugging http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4991 Issue 4989: SubscriptionRegistry>>deliver: anAnnouncement http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4989 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?
by Igor Stasenko Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

looks like the purpose is to make multiple morphs, displaying different (but adjacent) portions of one text.. But what i don't understand is what is the practical use of it? Is there an examples of such use of TextMorph(s)? As to me this looks a bit of over-enineering: morph represents a view of some model. Nothing prevents us from creating multiple different views of same model (a text in this case). And i don't get, what do we gain by letting them know about each other. If there is a need to have a coordination between views, i think it would be much simpler to have some centralized parent object/morph, which managing additional complexity related with such composition. The functionality seems to be working: in text morph's halo, click on its menu , and there will be 'add predecessor' and 'add successor' menu items, which creating a fresh text morphs over same text and put it in ?hand? i am clueless, what is purpose of this and whether it belongs to right place.. that's why i asking. (i would just throw it away ;) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14224
by Marcus Denker Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

14224 ----- Issue 4981: New implementation of process-specific storage http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4981 Issue 4960: Fix openInWorld method http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4960 Issue 4980: UUID>>< has a halt http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4980 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] [FOSDEM 2012] Devroom accepted: Smalltalk, Sunday 2012-2-5, Brussels
by Marcus Denker Nov. 11, 2011

Nov. 11, 2011

On Nov 11, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Dear Smalltalking Friends, > > Please tell me what you'd like to happen there. > We have a good opportunity to show why we > believe in smalltalk. > Very nice! I will come and I can give demos or presentations. In the past people tried to get a slot at FOSDEM and it never worked out, so it's great that you managed to get it! Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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