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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14200
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 20, 2011

Oct. 20, 2011

14200 ----- - Issue 4918: PluggableTextMorph>>styler is missing. Thanks Alain Plantec. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4918 - Issue 4738: Some icons missing from world menu http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4738 - Issue 4917: FlatMessageListBrowser improvement. Thanks Benjamin. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4917 Thanks guys!

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Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?
by Marcus Denker Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

Hello, Can people in general *delete* the quoted email parts to a level that one does need to scroll down 5 pages to read the answer? I start to just delete those mails, sorry. On Oct 16, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:57, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi Mariano, > > > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 20:39, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 15 Oct 2011, at 23:13, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> On 15 Oct 2011, at 22:36, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Tudor. Today I wanted to give it a try to 'GT-Inspector' 'GT-Playground' hence I did: > > > >> > > > >> I am happy you decided to give them a try :). But, the Playground is not yet ready :). > > > >> > > > >>> (ConfigurationOfGlamoroust project version: #bleedingEdge) load: #('GT-Inspector' 'GT-Playground' ). > > > >>> > > > >>> In a Pharo 1.3 release. To my surprise, it took like half an hour to install, and it even was broken because it installed a different version of refactoring browser that is not working in 1.3. > > > >> > > > >> This is due to a broken ConfiguraitonOfRB. I would actually be very interested in a fix in this area. > > > > > > > > what is broken? because I spent one full sprint to fix it. > > > > > > Actually it is not broken. Something else is broken by loading an older version somewhere in the Moose configuration. I did not have time yet. > > > > > > >>> So..can I ask.. are all of those projects really needed just for 2 simples things like a cool inspector and a cool workspace? > > > >>> do you need Nile, Grease, RefactoringBrowser, EyeSee, Magritte ??? > > > >>> can I somehow just load a minimal core for those things I need ? > > > >> > > > >> These projects are loaded by the full default ConfigurationOfGlamour. The ConfigurationOfGlamour offers groups, but the GlamorousToolikt one does not yet. If someone can tell me how to do something like this, I would be happy to accommodate the solution. > > > > > > > > in the chapter on metacello groups are explained. I can send you the latest version if you want. > > > > > > I know how they work. I was actually referring to the actual code :). It is such a big mess to deal with the explosion of combinations. > > > > > > > > > Well, I guess that if you don't know then nobody knows. I mean, Moose is your project ;) you know better than us its dependencies. > > > > > > This comment was not helpful at all. > > > > > > It was not my intention to be rude. I am only saying that if you already know the tool there isn't anything I can do to help. > > I did not say you were rude. I said it was not helpful. > > > I am just trying to build my own image with Glamourous since I think it is an important project. All I tried to do is to give you my feedback. Unfortunately, I cannot use that image you mention because I NEED the last 1.3 stable/released image. I can use your one click image, use it 5 minutes and let it. For in order to try it for real, I need to have it in my own images. > > Thanks. I understand. Now, we need to get RB stable loadable in the released image. > > > Stef was updating ConfigurationOfRB last sprint...maybe just updating #stable is enugh ? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Doru > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Thanks > > > >>> > > > >>> linear load : > > > >>> linear load : baseline-0.1 [ConfigurationOfGlamoroust] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfGlamour > > > >>> atomic load : baseline-0.1 [ConfigurationOfGlamoroust] > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfGlamour] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfEyeSee > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfGlamour] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfGrease > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfGlamour] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfMondrian > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfGlamour] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfShout > > > >>> atomic load : default [ConfigurationOfGlamour] > > > >>> load : CollectionExtensions > > > >>> load : Glamour-Announcements > > > >>> load : Glamour-Helpers > > > >>> load : Glamour-Core > > > >>> load : Glamour-Presentations > > > >>> load : Glamour-Browsers > > > >>> load : Glamour-Tests-Core > > > >>> load : Glamour-Morphic-Theme > > > >>> load : Glamour-Examples > > > >>> load : Glamour-Tools > > > >>> load : Glamour-Morphic-Widgets > > > >>> load : Glamour-Morphic-Renderer > > > >>> load : Glamour-Tests-Morphic > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfMondrian] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfProfStef > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfMondrian] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfHealthReportProducer > > > >>> linear load : default [ConfigurationOfMondrian] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfShapeST80 > > > >>> atomic load : default [ConfigurationOfMondrian] > > > >>> atomic load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfHealthReportProducer] > > > >>> load : HealthReportProducer > > > >>> load : CollectionExtensions > > > >>> load : Nile-Base > > > >>> load : Mondrian-ComplexShape > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Core > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Layouts > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Help > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Easel > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Pharo-Tests > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Shapes > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Events > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Visitor > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Util > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Normalizers > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Example > > > >>> load : Mondrian-ShapeVisitor > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Pharo-Morphic > > > >>> load : Mondrian-Tests > > > >>> load : Mondrian-FADELayout > > > >>> load : Glamour-Mondrian-Presentations > > > >>> load : Glamour-Tests-Mondrian > > > >>> atomic load : default [ConfigurationOfEyeSee] > > > >>> load : EyeSee-Events > > > >>> load : EyeSee-Axis > > > >>> load : EyeSee-Tests-Core > > > >>> load : EyeSee-Support > > > >>> load : EyeSee-Core > > > >>> load : Glamour-EyeSee-Presentations > > > >>> load : Glamour-Tests-EyeSee > > > >>> linear load : 1.0.6.1 [ConfigurationOfGrease] > > > >>> load : ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser > > > >>> linear load : 1.0.6.1 [ConfigurationOfGrease] > > > >>> load : Grease-Slime-lr.13 > > > >>> load : Magritte-Model > > > >>> load : Magritte-Pharo-Model > > > >>> load : Magritte-Morph > > > >>> load : Glamour-Magritte-Presentations > > > >>> load : Magritte-Tests-Model > > > >>> load : GT-Playground > > > >>> load : GT-Inspector > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Mariano > > > >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> www.tudorgirba.com > > > >> > > > >> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "One cannot do more than one can do." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mariano > > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every now and then stop and ask yourself if the war you're fighting is the right one." > > > > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] crash.dmp file
by John Toohey Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

One of my production servers was down this morning, but instead of a PharoDebug.log file, all I found was a file called crash.dmp, with a minimum stack trace and no information about what caused the crash. Can someone tell me what this file is, and why the usual log file was not created? -- ~JT

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Re: [Pharo-project] IS Smalltalk Source also an object?
by Marcus Denker Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > 2011/10/18 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> Maybe I've played too much football without a helmet or did too much C programming, > > Yes, and yes, that's why you missed Eliot's answer ;) > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.pharo.devel/55024 > > Nicolas > > > but I see two questions popping out of this: (1) is source an object > in Smalltalk; So yes, I have been convinced that it is an object (as even a string is an object). (yet, we should think if with the resources we have today as opposed to 1978, can't we do even better? I always wonder how smalltalk would look like if they would have had 4GB of RAM instead of 256KB...) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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[Pharo-project] crash.dmp file
by Torsten Bergmann Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

Did you try with one of Eliots Cog VMs http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2011-October/009540.html Since Eliot fixes bugs there the most up to date version (currently VM.r2499) may already include a bugfix. R2499 is the revision in Eliots subversion repo (see http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/Cog/) AFAIK Igor later also includes these fixes into the Git-Managed VM that is the source to build the VMs on Jenkins Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

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[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.3] pre-build full 1.3#13315
by Marcus Denker Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

Please test... this is build with the last RB/OB *and* the shout related changes. https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29273/Pharo-1.3-13315.zip I will update the one-click, too. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Re: [Pharo-project] About the pharo Sprint before the smalltalks
by Marcus Denker Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:55 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > - Bug fixing > - Reviewing solutions that people proposed > - Integration of KeyMapper. > Yes. One goal would be to look at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list the number "423" is the enemy. It needs to be made smaller. For that, one needs to look at issues and decide: "Do we need to take action at all?" "What is that next action?" The next action is often very trivial. "code needs to be attached in a machine readable form". or "it seems there is a consensus. What is is? What do we need to *do*? Just deciding that we do *not* act on a reported issue is as valuable as integrating a fix. And even *far* more harder often. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

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Oct. 19, 2011

Hi guys I'm quite sure that you all want to be a cool contributor? So do not forget to sign the license: http://www.pharo-project.org/license Then send a picture for http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors this is because we have a vibrant and active community that INRIA put money on the table. Stef

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[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease stable does not load in Pharo 1.3
by Tudor Girba Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

Hi, Try this in the latest Pharo 1.3 13315: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGrease'; load. (ConfigurationOfGrease project version: #stable) load It won't work because ParseTreeEnvironment got renamed into RBParseTreeEnvironment. Any takes for updating the configuration? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

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[Pharo-project] About the pharo Sprint before the smalltalks
by Guillermo Polito Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

Is any desired task to focus on? Some people have asked here, so I move the discussion here. Guille

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