January 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10209 Watchit integration
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 19, 2009

Jan. 19, 2009

Thanks for watchit. Now it is nicely integrated in pharo. Stef

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[Pharo-project] Names for the pharo scripting syntax
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Jan. 19, 2009

Jan. 19, 2009

hi guys gwenael is polishing the scripting syntax of pharo (was called in another world sapphir). Now we are looking for a new for such a syntax. If you have ideas please let us know. Ideally we would like to have a connection with the sea/nature (peace and love sarcasm). I was thinking about zephir, thunder, storm, wave, wale, orcal, Maikai to be well, fine, in a state of goodness in hawaian MAILA : mÄÊ»ila (stative) to be clear, as of the sea atoll, maibai >> - Similar words used to describe coastlines are nice as well: >> "Tombolo" (my favorite and not a common word), "Lagoon", "Cover", >> "Cliff" and "Bay". from lukas I like atoll :) since faro is an atoll But I like Tombolo too. stef

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[Pharo-project] mac carbon vm 3.8.21beta1U ships
by John M McIntosh Jan. 19, 2009

Jan. 19, 2009

Based on feedback I've promoted 3.8.21beta1U to production, it can be found via links from http://smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html If someone can update ftp.squeak.org that would be helpful. Because of the following issues anyone using 3.8.20beta1U should upgrade. info.plist change: To turn on the mmap file mapping for the image loading, which can improve startup times alter the SqueakUseFileMappedMMAP setting to TRUE from the default value of false. Note the risk of turning this one appears to affect image saving where you experience: (a) lockups writing to images on NFS mounts (b) occasionally an image save to the local hard disk can fail. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

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[Pharo-project] Failed to write image file (disk full?)
by Lukas Renggli Jan. 19, 2009

Jan. 19, 2009

At seemingly random times I get the error message "Failed to write image file (disk full?)" when saving an image. My disk is certainly not full, there are over 200 GB free. It does not seem to be directly related to Pharo, it happens randomly with the latest Pharo images, with early Pharo images and even 3.9 images. The annoying thing is that the image on the disk ends up cropped to about 5 MB. Of course such a cropped image cannot be opened anymore. As a workaround I found that if I save the image while the VM is still open under a new name it works again. I suspect that this is a problem of the Mac VM I am using? I was using 3.8.20beta1U for a while now, but now I am back at 3.8.19beta2U. However the exactly same problem happens on that version of the VM. I think I have to go further back and try 3.8.18beta4U. I know that Philippe encounters these random problems as well. Any ideas? Any other experience reports? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

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[Pharo-project] Add a new package with OB
by Alexandre Bergel Jan. 19, 2009

Jan. 19, 2009

Hi David and others, I created a new package using the SuperOB browser. I added few classes in it. The package does not appear at the top of the package list. I was expecting my package to be listed under 'Recently Modified'. do I miss something? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[Pharo-project] Extracting methods to traits
by Alexandre Bergel Jan. 17, 2009

Jan. 17, 2009

Dear List, A method may be moved to a trait by pressing Cmd-e (or selecting the menu entry 'move method into a new trait'). This version contains an improvement of TOBCmdMoveToTrait. Before doing the refactoring, the method is checked first whether some instance variables are accessed. In that case, a popup window offers few options. A list of possible trait names are also offered to select the trait the method should be moved in. I think that if you execute any load*OB method, you will get this. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: AlignementMorphBob1 removed
by Bill Schwab Jan. 17, 2009

Jan. 17, 2009

Stef, There is nothing to stop us and others from having fun on top of a clean system with a user interface that can meet the expectations of users, paying and otherwise. The cleanup is long overdue and very much starting to show. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 1/15/2009 3:47:19 PM >>> :) Jannik understood today why we forked :) and why we were really thinking that people are not serious when they want to keep squeak as it was. We cannot attract all the smart guys we want with a system like that. So we are improving :) This is sad because there are so much fun stuff. But fun does not mean shitty. So we will rebuild them. I hope that people will have fun building cool new fun tools and apps in Pharo. The isKindOf: plague is also terrrrrrrible. I learned about the ownerThatIsA: today (arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh). Morphic is the proof that graph traversal as programming paradigm is doomed (cf. K. Lieberherr moto - I think all his queries are doomed too -ok you may get something more flexible, dynamic but at which price and for which real use case...) >> remove AlignmentMorphBob1 > > YES, a dream come true ;-) > > michael I'm sad but the next on my pirate boat board "planche" are - BookMorph and friends -- don't we like class depending on their subclasses - yeah. - Project (we will have to pay a bit more attention) Once etoy is finally removed, will restart to work on that and these freaks are out we will really be on a cleaner world. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Jan. 17, 2009

Hi all with jannik we published two slice in the inbox to clean some dependencies: One remove onwerOfThatClassIs:orA: the other one merge AlignementMorphBob1 into AlignementMorph remove AlignmentMorphBob1 remove ThreadProjectNavigator and damage a bit more Project :) I would appreciate if somebody can have a look and give feedback. This would be good that we got more code review in pharo. Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Workspace Enhancement
by Bill Schwab Jan. 17, 2009

Jan. 17, 2009

Alexandre, I think it makes sense for a workspace (the shell/tool type) to warn before going away, but I agree that being prompted for every inspector that I want to close is a pain. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr 1/16/2009 6:12:07 PM >>> Dear List, Added history to Workspace. When you close a workspace now you will not be bothered with a popup window asking you whether you sure you want to close the window. In the workspace you have access to the historic of the last 5 previous contents.. Click on the right top icon of a workspace to get access to the previous contents. Tools-AlexandreBergel.137 in PharoInbox Issue #449 Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} about printOnDelimiter vs asStringOn: delimiter:
by Bill Schwab Jan. 16, 2009

Jan. 16, 2009

Stef, In keeping with print==developer, display==user, the idea of the developer representation is to quote the text so that it looks like the literal syntax. At least that is what I have always thought it was about. Does that help? Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 1/16/2009 2:57:57 PM >>> vw has also the printOn: versus displayString distinction. But here the point to have ' inside the string (ie the printString of the contained element ) does not make too much sense to me. stef On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Stef, > > I suspect that Object Arts would favor #printOn:delimiter:. They > would > also probably have a #displayOn:delimeter: method. Their approach is > that one 'displays' for users and 'prints' for developers; they > generally don't much like #as* methods, with the exception of true > conversion methods (such as #asOrderedCollection, etc.). > #displayOn: is > used my morphic, which will cause me some hassles some time soon. > > FWIW. > > Bill > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 273-6785 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > >>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 1/16/2009 12:55:53 PM >>> > Hi all > > I would like to have your point of view on the following: > on the class collection there are two methods > > asStringOn: aStream delimiter: delimString > asStringOn: aStream delimiter: delimString last: lastDelimString > > > printOn: aStream delimiter: delimString > printOn: aStream delimiter: delimString last: lastDelimString > > which are nearly doing the same. > I suggest to remove the printOn: version > > since it prints: > '1'', ''2'' & ''3'. > while asString > '1, 2 & 3' > > I do not see any use of the printOn version and there is no sender > (except tests that I will remove :). > > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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