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[Pharo-project] would be good to check the brekapoint behavior
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 10, 2008

Oct. 10, 2008

Hi marcus you told me once that they was a breakpoint support in squeak. It would be great to have it because removing self halt in the code is a pain. Stef

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[Pharo-project] using this mailing list
by nicolas cellier Oct. 10, 2008

Oct. 10, 2008

Apologies for previous ugly formatted post... I have problems using this mailing list because: 1) I do not receive the posts directly (ncellier at ifrance dot com) I tried twice to subscribe, but did not receive any answer 2) I can not use news.gmane.org through thunderbird like other squeak lists Why? 3) I can not use http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.pharo.devel It does not seem to be updated frequently enough. If someone could fix one of these problems, that would be super cool. Nicolas

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[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10091
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

Enjoy ;) SUnit removing %$^&*( self halt GATHER SEVERAL COLLECTION RELATED MANTIS TESTS AND FIXES ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7172 CharacterSetComplement has spoiled previous byteArrayMap optimization. Using #byteArrayMap is an optimization per se, possibly tailored for tight loops. Taking too much time to compute this map is spoiling efficiency. It is necessary to cache this this map for restoring efficiency to the level preceding introduction of CharacterSetComplement. ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6998 ((String new: 1) at: 1 put: $a) = $a -> true. ((WideString new: 1) at: 1 put: $a) = $a -> false. WideString at:put: should return the put object like any other collection ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=5331 http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6366 Lots of tests and few patches for WideString not behaving correctly. ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7180 +6455 +1603 +1602 Patches for Interval indexOf: and includes: ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6994 Authorize this: (#(1 2 3) as: ByteArray) as: Interval ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7121 (ar) Patches for OrderedCollection add:after: add:before: Try this one to be convinced for the necessity: | oc | oc := #(1 2 3 4) asOrderedCollection. (oc first:3) do: [:e | oc remove: e]. oc add: 0 beforeIndex: -2. ^oc ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6977 incorrect use of super (super basicNew in #new: dating from some 3.9 changes) ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6778 SkipList copy is shallow ---------------------------------------- http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6994 deprecate the Service related #startsWith: because single implementor completely redundant with beginsWith: Add tests and patch for http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6873 and http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6874 bitAnd: is broken for LargeNegativeInteger on every 8-bit boundary Mathieu little fix for syntax

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Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question
by Bill Schwab Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

Thanks for the reply. Please do not feel attacked in any way by this, but you have beautifully illustrated my point: I am not asking to put method in multiple *packages*, I am asking to free categories to do what they *should* do, which is tag methods in ways I find useful. PackageInfo (not to denigrate it), has completely hijacked the concept - actually, the Squeak community failed to add state to allow it to operate independently of categories. The uses of multiple categories are probably obvious, but they can be as simple as marking something as, for example, being a helper for the FFT, and specifically applying to the frequency domain. Dolphin visually distinguishes public and private methods, so I tend to be generous with the private category as I find it helps me when I look at a class with many methods. It is difficult to miss something you have never had, but trust me when I say that you are missing out. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> tapplek(a)gmail.com 10/08/08 10:33 PM >>> On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 07:52:29PM -0400, Bill Schwab wrote: > Colin, > > Among many useful things in Dolphin is an ability to assign multiple > categories to any given method; Squeak and Pharo allow only one > category, and it promptly gets chewed up by PackageInfo. Multiple > categories would be a nice addition to Squeak and Pharo. > > How hard would it be to change Monticello to take its input not from > PackageInfo and its (pardon me) abuse of category names, but from > reifications of the categories? The new objects would form the basis > for packaging system, and free method categories to do what they do > best: aid in browsing and understanding code. You could change PackageInfo to use the new scheme easily, I'm sure, or you could use Monticello2, which adds another abstraction layer atop PackageInfo (slices). And if Craig ever releases Spoon, we'll have another contender for version management (Naiad) PackageInfo is not that complicated. I was able to rewrite its image scanning code to be about 8x faster in about 40 lines of code, spread across 8 methods Making the browser nicely cope with whatever scheme you invent will be the real challenge. Can you give me an example of why you want one method in two packages? Monticello can handle that by using overrides, but it is a different version in each package. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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[Pharo-project] Some little syntax fix.
by Mathieu Suen Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

Hi, I have some little syntax fix. This will let the newcompiler recompile the image. Mth

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Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question
by Bill Schwab Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

Stef, Just to clarify, I would like to see category become categories, and to have those free for my use vs. being hijacked by the packaging sytem. Colin replied favorably to my email; it sounds as though he has a similar idea cooking, and I gave him a few things to ponder in response. I will leave it to his discretion, but perhaps we should post those emails here. A few mentions of slices in various replies suggest that I need to take another look at them. Please trust me when I say that Dolphin's ability to apply multiple method categories is a VERY useful feature. You would not regret adding that capability to Pharo. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 10/9/2008 9:32 AM >>> Good to know I really want to get rid of category too. Stef On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:56:44AM -0400, Bill Schwab wrote: >> Thanks for the reply. Please do not feel attacked in any way by >> this, >> but you have beautifully illustrated my point: I am not asking to put >> method in multiple *packages*, I am asking to free categories to do >> what >> they *should* do, which is tag methods in ways I find useful. >> PackageInfo (not to denigrate it), has completely hijacked the >> concept - >> actually, the Squeak community failed to add state to allow it to >> operate independently of categories. > > Ok. It sounds kind of like how Craig changed this in Spoon. He > got rid of Catogories altogether. In spoon, there are modules, > which are a collection of methods. Attached to each method is a > number of tags. One usually wants to browse by tags, but one can > browse by modules too. > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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[Pharo-project] I'm harvesting nicolas fixes...
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

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Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question
by Bill Schwab Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

Dolphin has been running on Wine for a while, so get a community edition copy and give it a try. Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> pennell.david(a)gmail.com 10/9/2008 10:44 AM >>> VW runs has been on Linux since about 2001. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. >

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Oct. 9, 2008

Hi guys does one of you know how when I load a package I can get an entry in the open... menu? Stef

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[Pharo-project] Pharo one click on Win32 - VM fix available + new Freetype plugin
by Torsten Bergmann Oct. 9, 2008

Oct. 9, 2008

The Pharo one click VM for Win32 still has the full screen problem, which is already fixed for Squeak by Andreas with a newer VM. See http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6818 for details and the new sources. There is also a new build of the external Freetype Plugin. See http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-October/131889.… Thx Torsten -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger

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