October 2020 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

EXIF / JPEG metadata
by Alistair Grant Nov. 30, 2025

Nov. 30, 2025

Hi Everyone, As far as I can tell, JPEGReadWriter in Pharo 7 doesn't read (or write) the image metadata, e.g. title, keywords, exposure time, etc. Is anyone aware of a package that does? Thanks! Alistair

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Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager
by Evan Donahue Sept. 25, 2023

Sept. 25, 2023

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. Evan

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WebDav and CalDav in Pharo ?
by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler April 13, 2022

April 13, 2022

Hi all, I do some experiments with iCal. For now I serve a full calendar over HTTP. Not bad, but it is read only. Iâd like to try CalDAV. I was looking for it, and also webDAV. Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'UdoSchneider' project: 'FileSystemNetwork'; configuration; load. #ConfigurationOfFileSystemNetwork asClass project stableVersion load: 'Webdav' Iâve found the project of Udo, but it doesnât load on P8. I think this is due to the stream refactoring. Right now the image hung. Iâll try maybe to load it manually. But I was wondering oof there were other alternatives ? TIA, CÃ©drick

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How to flatten traits
by Jupiter Jones Nov. 22, 2021

Nov. 22, 2021

Hi All, There used to be a method to #flattenDownTraits that I canât find the equivalent in Pharo 8. How do you go about flattening traits now? Thanks for any advice. Cheers, J

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Rounding in Floats
by Esteban Maringolo June 17, 2021

June 17, 2021

Hi, Continuing with my issues with decimals, I'm having one issue that is not clear to me why it happens. If I do: (9.1 + (-2.0)) roundTo: 0.1. "7.1000000000000005" I expect to get a single decimal Float (rounded with whatever precision, but a single decimal). Even if I do something like this: 7.1 roundTo: 0.1 It gives the wrong result. In VW and VAST it provides the right result. (9.1 + (-2.0)) roundTo: 0.1 "7.1" In Dolphin it also returns the wrong result, it seems to use the same algorithm to round it. Is this a bug? Esteban A. Maringolo

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Class hierarchy diagram
by Sanjay Minni May 6, 2021

May 6, 2021

Is there any way to display the Class Hierarchy as a Diagram or a indented list. Even for all the classes in a package will do. ----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?
by PAUL DEBRUICKER Feb. 8, 2021

Feb. 8, 2021

Hi - Sometimes I want to revert to older versions of methods e.g. from an hour ago. In the "Recent versions of MyClass>>#myMethod" dialog no timestamps or authors are present. How do I see those? Thanks Paul

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Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu
by kmo Dec. 14, 2020

Dec. 14, 2020

I see that the Pharo-Mars code has recently been split into two projects. Unfortunately this has still not fixed the problem with Ubuntu. It is still totally impossible to run pharo mars on ubuntu. Now just loading the GTK-bindings package into ubuntu causes a segfault. This is actually going backwards - at least you used to be able to load the code into pharo, even though it crashed if you tried to use it. i flagged this up in May. I'm beginning to think I'll be dead before I see Ubuntu running Pharo-Mars. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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GSOC 2021
by Serge Stinckwich Nov. 18, 2020

Nov. 18, 2020

GSOC 2021 is out: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ Anyone is willing to lead the Pharo proposal? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwic h https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich

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Constraint solver in Pharo?
by Alexandre Bergel Oct. 29, 2020

Oct. 29, 2020

Hello! Is there a constraint solver available in Pharo? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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[ANN] Next Pharo Sprint: Oct 30
by Marcus Denker Oct. 27, 2020

Oct. 27, 2020

We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Oct 30 (this Friday) Goals of this sprint: - Fix issues from tracker https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues This is a Remote Sprint, it happens on Discord. http://pharo.org/contribute-events We have added a Board to coordinate the work: https://github.com/orgs/pharo-project/projects/9 A list of all Pharo Event of the year an be found here: https://association.pharo.org/events

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[Ann] IndieWeb and pocket infrastructures: 6th biweekly workshop this Saturday (3:15 PM - 7:15 PM, GMT-5)
by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas Oct. 23, 2020

Oct. 23, 2020

Hi all, This is just a short reminder about our biweekly Grafoscopio community workshops about IndieWeb and pocket infrastructures (in Spanish). You can find more information about them on: [1] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/doc/trunk/docs/es/index.html#tall… It has been really nice to see how workshops, prose and code advance intertwined and feedback each other in this community experience made on a voluntary basis. In the "behind scenes" links below you can see how the writing advances at a pretty good pace. By a happy coincidence, that I think is more a reflection of the spirit of our times, we, at the local community, started to develop a so called decoupled/headless CMS, that suits our writing and publishing workflows better that overcomplicated CMS (like WordPress) and after that I found that there is a complete movement around them, that includes static generators[1] and JAMStack. Our approach aligns with them in some places and in others I think we are more agile and minimalist. As usual, I create an interactive Grafoscopio outline/notebook and a Domain Specific Language that explores the problem and creates some prototypes (see screenshot below). We have biweekly community workshops[2a], where we learn how to build, update and modify our static site and the technologies behind and the companion documentation site[2] is an exampler and explainer of what can be done using the Brea[3] minimalist CMS under construction: [1] https://jamstack.org/generators/ [2] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/ [2a] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/doc/trunk/docs/es/index.html#tall… [3] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/brea/ As usual, I would like to thanks the remote community that makes this local experience possible, and also I would like to thank ESUG for their key support to this initiative. Cheers, Offray Ps: here are the "behind scenes" links * https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/timeline * https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/tree?ci=tip&name=docs/es&type=tree * https://code.tupale.co/Offray/Brea * https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/brea/

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Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?
by stephan Oct. 22, 2020

Oct. 22, 2020

For some situations, creating something on github might be a perfectly good persistence strategy. Stephan

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Energy efficiency of Pharo/Smalltalk
by Jonathan van Alteren Oct. 21, 2020

Oct. 21, 2020

Hi all, I am interested in energy efficiency metrics for Pharo (version >=8). Just now, I came across this research and related GitHub project: â¢ https://sites.google.com/view/energy-efficiency-languages â¢ https://github.com/greensoftwarelab/Energy-Languages Unfortunately, the paper mentions that Smalltalk was excluded from the results because the (VW) compiler was proprietary :-S However, the GitHub repository does contain Smalltalk code and results, but I haven't been able to evaluate those. [1] Does anyone here have more information on this topic? The benchmarks seem to be low-level algorithms. Although that is useful, I think that a better argument for Pharo/Smalltalk efficiency is that a good OO design (e.g. created using responsibility-driven design with behaviorally complete objects) will be a better fit, can be much simpler and will thus be more efficient during development, as well as easier to maintain and evolve. [2] Has anyone done any research in this area that can quantify this aspect? Kind regards, Jonathan van Alteren Founding Member | Object Guild B.V. Sustainable Software for Purpose-Driven Organizations jvalteren(a)objectguild.com

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Zinc question (may be this is an HTML one)
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 20, 2020

Oct. 20, 2020

Hi sven and others While trying to improve microdown I have the following question. How can I have a more generic getImage: method. Right now I use getPng: and I would like to support getPng: and getJpeg. I saw that there is getImageOfType: mimeType fromUrl: urlObject getImageOfType: mimeType fromUrl: urlObject | client | (client := self client) url: urlObject; accept: mimeType; enforceHttpSuccess: true; enforceAcceptContentType: true; get. "ImageReadWriter does automatic type detection" ^ ImageReadWriter formFromStream: client entity readStream So it looks like what I want except that I do not know how to specify a Mime So I did ZnEasy getImageOfType: (ZnMimeType main: 'image' sub: '*') fromUrl: 'http://pharo.org/files/pharo.png' Now I would like to know if this is the correct way to do it. I could imagine that we could give a set of possible mime types. S. -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

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Why does loading baselines in P8 gives multiple entries in Iceberg?
by Tim Mackinnon Oct. 15, 2020

Oct. 15, 2020

Hi guys - having not worked on a proper project in Pharo for a while, I was a bit surprised in Pharo 8 to see that when I load a project baseline, it seems to appear multiple times in Iceberg? Is this a known issue - or am I forgetting to do something? I noticed this for CodeParadise, but also have noticed it for my latest project tooâ¦ it seems benign, the second one appears as a detached copy when I commit changes on one of the entries - but its not something that I recall seeing in earlier Pharo versions (like P7). Tim

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AthensCairoSDLSurface P8 Error
by Alvaro Piorno Oct. 14, 2020

Oct. 14, 2020

Hello, This code that worked for P6 and P7 is now failing in P8. *AthensCairoSDLSurface fromSDLSurface: self window handle handle getWindowSurface.* the window is created like this: *window := OSWindow createWithAttributes: (OSWindowAttributes new resizable: false; yourself).* The exception is Error: Could not coerce arguments from cairo lib. Cheers

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UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, October 28th
by Giovanni Corriga Oct. 14, 2020

Oct. 14, 2020

The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, October 28th. Alexandre Bergel will talk about Agile Visualization with Roassal3. Visualizing data is probably the easiest part in the field of data visualization. Numerous books and sophisticated libraries exist for that very purpose. One of challenges of data visualization is to identify the right abstractions that make a visualization reusable, composable, extensible, navigable, and produced at a very low cost. Roassal ( https://github.com/ObjectProfile/Roassal3 ) is a visualization engine for Smalltalk that leverage the experience of crafting and using data visualization. This talk will demo Roassal and presents non-trivial visualizations within the field of software visualization. Alexandre Bergel ( http://bergel.eu/ ) is Associate Professor and researcher at the University of Chile. Alexandre Bergel and his collaborators carry out research in software engineering. His focus is on designing tools and methodologies to improve the overall performance and internal quality of software systems, by employing profiling, visualization, and artificial intelligence techniques. Alexandre Bergel has authored over 140 articles, published in international and peer reviewed scientific forums, including the most competitive conferences and journals in the field of software engineering. Alexandre has participated to over 140 program committees of international events. Alexandre has also a strong interest in applying his research results to industry. Several of his research prototypes have been turned into products and adopted by major companies in the semi-conductor industry and certification of critical software systems. Alexandre is member of the editorial board of Empirical Software Engineering. Alexandre authored the book Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo, Agile Visualization ( http://agilevisualization.com/ ), and co-authored the book Deep Into Pharo. Given the current COVID-19 restrictions, this will be an online meeting from home. If you'd like to join us, please sign up in advance on the meeting's Meetup page ( https://www.meetup.com/UKSTUG/events/cbklbrybcnblc/ ) to receive the meeting details. Donât forget to bring your laptop and drinks!

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Standalone html builder (a la seaside without seaside?)
by Tim Mackinnon Oct. 13, 2020

Oct. 13, 2020

Hi - has anyone ever managed to extract the html builder out of seaside - or written something equivalent? I often find I want to build some HTML, but donât want the full seaside - and was wondering if anyone has managed to extract it, or have something similar? This combined with Renoir from BA-ST would give a good little light weight web potential to run with Zinc. Tim

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[ANN] Libgit 1.0.0 in Pharo 9
by tesonep＠gmail.com Oct. 13, 2020

Oct. 13, 2020

Hi, a later announcement (this have been done some months ago... but I never send the mail). We have upgraded in Pharo 9 to use the latest stable version of Libgit. It required to have some improvements in Libgit to handle the updated version and also to support the previous version. >From the point of view of new features, it does not add new things. However, this version fixes a lot of existing problems in Libgit. We can be sure this was a successful deployment as we don't have problems with it. We are really happy that this has been done transparently and keeping the working version with different configurations of images and VMs. As we should support new and old images, on the same VM. And also running new images in old VMs Thanks. -- Pablo Tesone. tesonep(a)gmail.com

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Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?
by Tim Mackinnon Oct. 11, 2020

Oct. 11, 2020

Hi everyone - Iâm wondering what is the recommended way to save some simple user data for a Pharo application I would like to run on the cloud (probably initially digital ocean, but could be AWS if it came to it). Initially I thought I might try and run my little app in Digital ocean (I followed someoneâs steps a few years ago, and had a simple seaside app running quite well) - so I was thinking of starting there. I know there is Svenâs P3 - but Iâm not sure Iâm ready to run and maintain a SQL database for a simple application, but could be persuaded it its simple to setup with little maintenance. Would mongo be a suggestion - is that easy to setup and run? (And is that Voyage?). Possibly I could even use image persistence, and fuel out a Dictionary from time to time - but I think that might be a little bit too belt and braces for me. Is there something that gives a little table of tradeoffs with some simple ways to get started? Tim

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[ANN] Pharo Consortium New Gold Member: InfOil
by Marcus Denker Oct. 11, 2020

Oct. 11, 2020

The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that InfOil has joined the Consortium as a Gold Member. InfOil is an Argentinian company focused on software development for the Oil and Gas industry with clients in Latin America, Cuba, and Canada. About - InfOil: http://www.infoil.com.ar - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org The goal of the Pharo Consortium is to allow companies and institutions to support the ongoing development and future of Pharo. Individuals can support Pharo via the Pharo Association: - http://association.pharo.org

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SmalltalkHub download problem
by bruno buzzi brassesco Oct. 8, 2020

Oct. 8, 2020

Hi, Trying to download: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/XPath/main/ConfigurationOfXPath-… or: http://deprecated.smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/XPath/main/ConfigurationO… An error arise: VOMongoConnectionError Any idea what is going on ? MongoDB down ? regards, bruno

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[ANN] HighchartsSt v12.1.1 [v12.1.1] released!
by Buenos Aires Smalltalk Oct. 7, 2020

Oct. 7, 2020

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[Offtopic] Documentary Project
by Eric Gade Oct. 7, 2020

Oct. 7, 2020

Fellow Squeakers and Pharo-ers, Please forgive me if this message is inappropriate for the list. I am hoping you all will be interested in the following project. For the past year and a half I have been working on a team that is developing a documentary <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/messagenotunderstood/message-not-under…> on the history of personal computing. Our goal is to interview the very people who laid the foundations for personal computing while they are still with us, learning about their original visions and getting their take on the present. In this sense it is both an aspiring feature length documentary project but also an endeavor in oral history and posterity. Many of the themes we want to explore will be familiar to the members of this community (as will the title). Last fall we were able to shoot our first three interviews. We used these to make a short teaser <https://vimeo.com/429045920>, with the idea it could be used to raise funds for future rounds of interviews. That said, we are currently in the middle of a Kickstarter campaign <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/messagenotunderstood/message-not-under…> to get the second round funded. If you are interested in learning more, feel free to reach out to me directly and to visit the film's campaign site <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/messagenotunderstood/message-not-under…> and website <https://messagenotunderstood.com/>. We need all the promotion we can get! Thanks! -- Eric

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