February 2014 - Pharo-users

I love the new catalog and now you can create the metadata easily :)
by Pharo4Stef Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Yes click that link: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog/HTML_Report/? So I imagine that you are all like me: you are too busy to add the correct information because you do not know what/how/. So I created a little class: called CatalogAdder for you and me :P I'm a simple utility class that add methods to ConfigurationOf class to declare catalog metadata. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'DamienCassou' project: 'Pier-Gutemberg'; package: 'CatalogAdder'; load (CatalogAdder on: ConfigurationOfXXX) defineCatalogMetadata and it creates all the methods with dummy template for you :) Stef

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude
by Marcus Denker Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

On 10 Feb 2014, at 11:08, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> Phil, >> >> This matter is actually very important for Smalltalk community, because >> it exposes nontransparent, meddling behind the scenes, and in some cases >> blatantly unethical behavior of some ESUG board members. Which is >> certainly bad for our community on long term. > > > > Janko CAN YOU STOP! > > "blatantly unethical behaviorâ > Really > I propose we do at the next ESUG the following: - the general assembly sets up and vote for a small group (3-5 people?) - they look into the issues - then report back to the general assembly It will of course been taken care that this gremium is independed. Because via email this is really not going to work. Marcus

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The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude
by Luc Fabresse Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Hi all, ------------ FACTS As you all know, I am the ESUG treasurer. So please find the numbers attached for the ESUG support of GSOC projects in 2013. ESUG sponsored 3 "extra-GSOC" meaning extra slots not accepted by Google. In the file it is: Alejandro Infante, Pablo Estefo and Benjamin Arezki. All in all we paid: - 3695EUR (~5000USD at that time i.e. same cost as a regular GSOC) each projects - Serge trip to Mentor summit And we received 5552EUR from Google so yes we lost ~6582EUR That is easy 13*500 USD would only cover 1 plain extra-Gsoc and we sponsorized 3. I also think that it is important to send someone to the GSoc mentor summit because it participates to the fact that Google recognizes ESUG ang gives slots the next year. It is alos important to note dates. ESUG paid first and then has been refund by Google. It would not be possible to do it without ESUG. ------------ FROM HERE, MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS STORY: As some of you know, I doing the ESUG treasury stuff on my *own* time and it takes a lot! I am doing it because I strongly believe that Smalltalk (all falvors!) is a really great language that should be more widespread. I also completely open to discussions. The ESUG board can also explain its actions and even money status. I can do errors too. So if Janko wants some details on GSOC related money, JUST ASK! I cannot admit that: - Janko wrote about some money accusation. This is directly directed against the treasurer so me. And honestly, just reading again that I am biased and that I hide or steal money make me think that I should better quit. - Janko asked for apologies! what is that? even if I would have done a mistake (and ESUG did not loose money), YOU STILL MUST THANK ME for DOING THIS BORING TASK! and then I can correct mistakes if any - People wants an answer fast, this conversation started yesterday and I am spending my week-end with my kids I am really fed up with this kind of attitude. Stop accuse, better ask, discuss and we will solve the problems together if any. But I think it will never happen... #Luc The disgusted Treasurer of ESUG who will finish his week-end in bad mood

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Esug-list] [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude
by Joachim Tuchel Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Phil, That's your opinion. I don't think money of sponsors should be spent with such an attitude. Unfortunately, I do not fully unerstand what Janko is saying and the links he provided don't help me really. Is he saying that the ESUG board ignored the vote of gsoc mentors on how much to pay to students in the additional projects? Was that money spent unequally and does Janko say this was unfair and does he say the projects that got more did so because they were pharo projects? If so, this needs some explanation. If it's not true, we can go on and say the board did it with the members' placet. Then we can shrug and say "so what?" Thats what we have a motivated and elected board for. I agree with you in so far as this is a really bad moment in time for this discussion. If all of tgis means gsoc comes to a halt for Smalltalk because we cannot apply in time, that would be really a pity. As a sponsor, I'd like to know what Janko is really up to and if the way things went is okay, since I want our money to be spent for positive things, like the yearly conference and many other great things esug is doing. As a sponsor, I wouldn't want to see anybody in the board to think about our money the way you expresss it here. Even if Esug is a european organization, it has very limited financial abilities, and 4000 euros thrown away or used unethically is not peanuts. Joachim phil(a)highoctane.be schrieb: >Guys, > >>From the outside it just looks like a couple of spoiled kids battling in >the kindergarten. > >All of this is not moving Smalltalk and Pharo any single bit forward. >Backwards, there is a fair chance. > >Now, could you take this discussion elsewhere? Pick up a phone and talk. > >Who cares if anyone is right? Oh yeah, EUR 4K, what a huge amount to fight >over for an European org... (rolleyes). > >Phil > > > > >On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Janko, >> >> I do not have all numbers at hand now but in 2013 there were 4 extra-GSOC >> but we paid only 3 because one student gave up (Jean-Baptiste Beuzelin). >> So yes you are probably right that it remains money if we integrate last >> year BUT we were willing to spend it. >> >> Luc >> >> >> 2014-02-09 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> First to Luc: from your numbers it is clear that you are not to be >>> blamed on anything, because you were obviously misinformed and misguided. >>> >>> Facts namely are: >>> >>> 1. GSoC mentors decided to pay extra stipendiums 3000 USD [1] while >>> ESUG without approval paid 2000 more, 5000 USD, without any report >>> back to GSoC mentors, >>> >>> 2. GSoC mentors decided to add past GSoC2012 amount to the pool for >>> paying extra projects [2][3]. >>> >>> Calculation (without the Summit expenses) therefore is: >>> >>> Income: GSoC 2012 13x 500 = 6.500 USD >>> GSoC 2013 13x 500 = 6.500 USD >>> ------------------------------ >>> 13.000 USD >>> >>> Expenses: >>> Extra stipendiums: 3x 3.000 = 9.000 USD >>> >>> Difference: + 4.000 USD >>> >>> If ESUG would follow the decisions of GSoC mentors it wouldn't loose any >>> money but gain 4.000 USD. >>> >>> Those that misinformed and misguided you needs therefore to apologize to >>> you Luc, to the GSoC mentors and to me as admin! >>> >>> Janko >>> >>> [1] >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors/Yrlj8dIgGPg >>> [2] >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors/WwnxpkXzAB8 >>> [3] >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors/tR44jdPT5Hw >>> >>> >>> Dne 09. 02. 2014 17:26, piÅ¡e Luc Fabresse: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > ------------ >>> > FACTS >>> > >>> > As you all know, I am the ESUG treasurer. >>> > So please find the numbers attached for the ESUG support of GSOC >>> > projects in 2013. >>> > >>> > ESUG sponsored 3 "extra-GSOC" meaning extra slots not accepted by >>> Google. >>> > In the file it is: Alejandro Infante, Pablo Estefo and Benjamin Arezki. >>> > >>> > All in all we paid: >>> > - 3695EUR (~5000USD at that time i.e. same cost as a regular GSOC) each >>> > projects >>> > - Serge trip to Mentor summit >>> > >>> > And we received 5552EUR from Google >>> > >>> > so yes we lost ~6582EUR >>> > That is easy 13*500 USD would only cover 1 plain extra-Gsoc and we >>> > sponsorized 3. >>> > >>> > I also think that it is important to send someone to the GSoc mentor >>> > summit because it participates to the fact that Google recognizes ESUG >>> > ang gives slots the next year. >>> > >>> > It is alos important to note dates. >>> > ESUG paid first and then has been refund by Google. >>> > It would not be possible to do it without ESUG. >>> > >>> > ------------ >>> > FROM HERE, MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS STORY: >>> > >>> > As some of you know, I doing the ESUG treasury stuff on my *own* time >>> > and it takes a lot! >>> > I am doing it because I strongly believe that Smalltalk (all falvors!) >>> > is a really great language that should be more widespread. >>> > >>> > I also completely open to discussions. >>> > The ESUG board can also explain its actions and even money status. >>> > I can do errors too. >>> > So if Janko wants some details on GSOC related money, JUST ASK! >>> > >>> > I cannot admit that: >>> > >>> > - Janko wrote about some money accusation. This is directly directed >>> > against the treasurer so me. >>> > And honestly, just reading again that I am biased and that I hide or >>> > steal money make me think that I should better quit. >>> > >>> > - Janko asked for apologies! what is that? even if I would have done a >>> > mistake (and ESUG did not loose money), YOU STILL MUST THANK ME for >>> > DOING THIS BORING TASK! and then I can correct mistakes if any >>> > >>> > - People wants an answer fast, this conversation started yesterday and I >>> > am spending my week-end with my kids >>> > >>> > >>> > I am really fed up with this kind of attitude. >>> > Stop accuse, better ask, discuss and we will solve the problems together >>> > if any. >>> > But I think it will never happen... >>> > >>> > #Luc >>> > The disgusted Treasurer of ESUG who will finish his week-end in bad mood >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Janko MivÅ¡ek >>> Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team >>> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Esug-list mailing list >Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

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Google Summer of Code is here, your ideas please!
by Janko MivÅ¡ek Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Dear Smalltalkers, Tenth GSoC is here and application deadline is earlier this year, already next Friday! Time therefore for your cool project ideas on this year Smalltalk GSoC Hurry up! For now just express any idea you have here on the mailing list. Later we will together develop it to be in complete format together with two mentors needed. To see how fully developed ideas look like please look at 2012 ones at:http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas. Ideally (but not necessary right now) you should prepare an idea following this template: ----------------------------------------------- Title: Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) Possible mentor: (can be assigned later) Possible second mentor: (can be assigned later) Description Technical Details Benefits to the Student Benefits to the Community ------------------------------------------------- Note also that students yourselves can propose a GSoC project. So if you like to be a student on this year GSoC and have a nice idea, don't be shy and propose it here! The community will listen you and guide to the really nicely proposed project. For the community, start looking around for students. Think about how to approach the universities near by you, do you know who to contact there, etc. Our special website is in preparation and will be online in few days. Official Google GSoC site is here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014. Specially read carefully the FAQ: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc20… Mentors of all past GSoCs please rejoin the mentors mailing list where we discuss all details about this year GSoC: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors While students interested on GSoC please join a special Smalltalk GSoC mailing list for you: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-students Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team

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Re: [Pharo-users] Google Summer of Code is here, your ideas please!
by Joachim Tuchel Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Hi, so that's not exactly what i had in mind. In a portable git interface for Smalltalk code, menticello would be an optional plugin (just like store, envy, sts or whatever), but it would be self contained with a clever api to implant it into a dialect. Let's call it "git native" with plugs for dialects... Joachim Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> schrieb: > > >Le 04/02/2014 14:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> >> On 04 Feb 2014, at 14:31, Joachim Tuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: >> >>> * An interface to manage Smalltalk source code in GIT with tools for merging etc. - with Portability as a primary design goal (Cypress sure is the place to start from) >> >> That already exists, in Thierry's work, right ? He recently posted about this... > >I have the base git support... I carefully avoided the "tools for >merging" part :P > >Anybody who has done merges with git, especially on Monticello packages >under filetree format, will understand why :( > >(I tend to merge under Monticello and recommit instead. Works very well, >but doesn't register as a merge for git. It's something I'd like to >solve eventually, one day...) > >Thierry >-- >Thierry Goubier >CEA list >Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >France >Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > >

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[launcher] to manage StartupLoader scripts
by btc＠openinworld.com Feb. 10, 2014

Feb. 10, 2014

Just an off the cuff idea... it might be useful if PharoLauncher helped manage/edit the StartupLoader scripts. Any thoughts? cheers -ben

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Pharo3 Status Video from Fosdem on Youtube
by Marcus Denker Feb. 9, 2014

Feb. 9, 2014

Hi, The Pharo3 Status presentation is online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=son_bhZ93ec Marcus

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Stupid Question
by Bob Williams Feb. 9, 2014

Feb. 9, 2014

I am exploring Morphs and I tried the following code: |sm ws| ws := WideString new: 5. ws wordAt: 1 put: 16r2264. ws wordAt: 2 put: 16r22C5. ws wordAt: 3 put: 16r2211. ws wordAt: 4 put: 16r2219. ws wordAt: 5 put: 16r221A. sm := SimpleSwitchMorph new. sm label: ws font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Cambria Math' pointSize: 15). sm openInWorld. Now in the upper left corner of the World screen I have a button that shows the math symbols, LTE, dot, Summation, large-dot and SQRT, and will change backcolor from gray to light-red. Exactly what I wanted; however, how do I get rid of the morph? The class documentation is full of examples of this kind so there must be a way to clean up the World as It persists through a quit and save and then open. Thanks.

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iStoa, some new
by Hilaire Fernandes Feb. 9, 2014

Feb. 9, 2014

Hello, Some newer screenshots about iStoa. To try, some instructions there [2] Hilaire [1] https://launchpad.net/istoa [2] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hilaire-fernandes/istoa/trunk/view/head:/README -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

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