December 2012 - Pharo-users

Who's in charge of the Pharo Website - some corrections might help.
by Tim Mackinnon Dec. 19, 2012

Dec. 19, 2012

Guys - who's in charge of the Pharo website as there are some small corrections that might help. It took me ages to realise that the Large font items on the left hand nav are clickable (not sure if there is an easy way to indicate this?) - but anyway I was looking for the Nabble link and I notice that the link to Nabble in the FAQ page (http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq) is incorrect where'as the one on the Community page is correct. Also the Pharo-2.0 One Click link on (http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/beta-2-0) is broken. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Who-s-in-charge-of-the-Pharo-Website-some-corrections… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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How are people doing TDD?
by Tim Mackinnon Dec. 19, 2012

Dec. 19, 2012

I am curious how people are doing TDD in Pharo? I just tried a session with some of the guys at the UK Smalltalk meetup and I was finding it a bit frustrating in the Pharo 1.4 image. I really like the new Toggle from Class to Test (cmd-j) option that got introduced - someone has definitely been writing tests in Pharo - however it does my head in that pressing it after editing a method doesn't jump me back. I also find the same problem when editing a test - that pressing cmd-t to run it, just puts a "t" in my source code and doesn't run the test. On a related theme - I also find it a bit awkward that I often have to click in the source pane to get focus there to enter some code, I'm kind of missing some easy keystroke to put focus there so I can just start typing in a new method. Am I missing some tricks here? Will the new 2.0 help with some of this (I wanted to try it to see but the one click link is broken). I did try the CI link - but I couldn't see where the 1-click job was running. As an aside - there seem to be lots of red balls on Jenkins? Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-are-people-doing-TDD-tp4659726.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Pharo-users] What makes code unreadable ( was Re: Nautilius Method Source Pane Coloring )
by Attila Magyar Dec. 18, 2012

Dec. 18, 2012

Yes, bad names, long methods, mixed level of abstractions for example Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >you mean by "unreadable code" , bad choice of naming methods and variables or something more than that , or something else ? > > >From: Attila Magyar <m.magyar3(a)gmail.com> >To: dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>; A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012, 15:46 >Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilius Method Source Pane Coloring > > >On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Another example would be not to allow accepting a method if is not commented. Could annoy some people , but I wonder if there is any real benefit in the long ru > > >I think, using comments inside methods and documenting libraries and projects are fairly different topics. I found people often using lots of comments as an excuse for writing unreadable code. But documenting the usage of a library is unarguably important. > > >

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Nautilius Method Source Pane Coloring
by Sven Van Caekenberghe Dec. 18, 2012

Dec. 18, 2012

Hi, The way Nautilus colors method source panes is absolutely great: if reminds you of paying attention to long methods in a gentle way. However, right now the metric is 'number of characters in method source', while it should be more related to complexity. For example, using long names for variables or messages will be counted as negative towards this metric. Worse even, lots of comments, which is good most of the time, also counts as negative. Number of nodes in the AST would be one solution, but maybe a too expensive one. Maybe quickly scanning for tokens while skipping whitespace and comments and then counting the tokens would be doable ? Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

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Re: [Pharo-users] How are people doing TDD?
by Attila Magyar Dec. 18, 2012

Dec. 18, 2012

I usually use two different browser for the test and code. But I still haven't figured out how to use keyboard shortcuts effectively. Autotest can help to run the test automatically after accepting the code. Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I am curious how people are doing TDD in Pharo? I just tried a session with >some of the guys at the UK Smalltalk meetup and I was finding it a bit >frustrating in the Pharo 1.4 image. > >I really like the new Toggle from Class to Test (cmd-j) option that got >introduced - someone has definitely been writing tests in Pharo - however it >does my head in that pressing it after editing a method doesn't jump me >back. I also find the same problem when editing a test - that pressing cmd-t >to run it, just puts a "t" in my source code and doesn't run the test. > >On a related theme - I also find it a bit awkward that I often have to click >in the source pane to get focus there to enter some code, I'm kind of >missing some easy keystroke to put focus there so I can just start typing in >a new method. > >Am I missing some tricks here? Will the new 2.0 help with some of this (I >wanted to try it to see but the one click link is broken). I did try the CI >link - but I couldn't see where the 1-click job was running. As an aside - >there seem to be lots of red balls on Jenkins? > >Tim > > > >-- >View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-are-people-doing-TDD-tp4659726.html >Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

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Any recommended VPS Hosting for Pharo?
by Esteban A. Maringolo Dec. 18, 2012

Dec. 18, 2012

Does somebody runs Pharo in a VPS/Cloud environment? Can that somebody recommend its hosting? I prefer Ubuntu/Debian solutions instead of CentOS (which seems to be the norm), but mainly because AFAIK there are no pre-built binaries for it. I'll appreciate any real use experience, comments, discussions and flame wars about this. :) Regards! -- Esteban -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Any-recommended-VPS-Hosting-for-Pharo-tp4659714.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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A post on Smalltalk by a Ruby developer
by Miguel Moquillon Dec. 18, 2012

Dec. 18, 2012

The write is about class variables in Ruby and in Smalltalk. The author, by looking for the origin of them (in order to have a better understanding of them), has discovered Smalltalk. He then explore the definition of the class and class instance variables both in Smalltalk and in Ruby. http://patshaughnessy.net/2012/12/17/ruby-smalltalk-and-class-variables -- Miguel Moquillon

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[ann] moose and humane assessment courses
by Tudor Girba Dec. 17, 2012

Dec. 17, 2012

Hi, In the new year, I will be organizing a couple of public courses around the topic of humane assessment and Moose. These two will be held in Bern: - Humane Assessment Primer on January 25. This course is relevant for both managers and engineers. It covers assessment economics and the means to integrate humane assessment in the development process and in the organization: http://www.humane-assessment.com/courses/humane-assessment-primer - Moose Apprentice on February 7-8. This course is relevant for engineers. This is an introductory hands-on course on using the Moose analysis platform for putting humane assessment into practice: http://www.humane-assessment.com/courses/moose-apprentice Cheers, Tudor -- www.tudorgirba.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

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Dec. 17, 2012

Hi guys I would like to block a date for the next sprint at Lille. Would the 8th of february of for you? Stef

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Clearing Change Sorter
by Ben Coman Dec. 16, 2012

Dec. 16, 2012

I rarely use Change Sorter, usually preferring Monticello. However occasionally when I want to submit a small change (particularly when I've fallen far behind the HEAD of a repository) then I do turn to Change Sorter. However Change Sorter is then full of lots of Change Sets that mean nothing to me. Many of these are named of the form "MonticelloPackage.versionNumber" and I can't determine the pattern for inclusion of changes that I make. So... Q1. I can see how to delete individual Change Sets, but how can I delete them all to start with a clean slate (or is that a bad idea?) Q2. What determines which Change Set changes go into. a. Does a Monticello import create a Change Set of that name & version as a one time event, to which further changes are not added? b. Do changes I make to a class in a Monticello package create a Change Set of that name & version. I could do further experiments to try and pin down Q2 myself, but I needed to ask Q1 anyway and I thought others might be interested in the answer to Q2. cheers -ben

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