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cleaning up Pharo images
by Peter UhnÃ¡k Feb. 18, 2016

Feb. 18, 2016

Hi, is there a way to minimize/clean up Pharo image/changes files after an application has been installed into it? Currently I have the base image sitting at 65MB and changes at 36MB, which is massive considering only source code was added. I've tried running 'Smalltalk cleanUp: true', which I cannot run from command line because it asks a questionâ¦ can this be circumvented? Running it manually however has driven the image size down to 46MB, not changing the .changes file however. Are there other ways to make the image smaller? Do I need such massive changes file? Can't I just empty it completely? Thanks, Peter

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[ANN] OSUnix and OSLinuxUbuntu on new UFFI
by Torsten Bergmann Feb. 18, 2016

Feb. 18, 2016

Sebastian wrote: >I just know that Windows users should not replace their current images with the latest >images yet. Otherwise they might have trouble. One always might have trouble when one uses the latest beta image and CI built VM. No need to warn about this. Nonetheless: ============ Using #50586 image with the "living on the edge" Spur VM (http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/win/PharoVM-Spur32-win-latest.zip last built 17.02.2016 18:53) there is a reproducable case when one opens the browser and selects a method in a class browser and then another method of the same class. This crashes the VM. Using the latest "stable" Spur VM it will work: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/win/stable-20160203.zip Use that VM version until issue #17541 is solved. Keep on reporting - but please next time stay away from hijacking non-related threads and give more details: In the world menu there is "System" -> "System Reporter". In this reporter the "Image" as well as the "VM General" is already selected. With this you can find out and report exactly the VM/image combination that you used. You should provide this in future bug reports. For other "Non-Pharo VM crashing" bugs it is enough to report just the image version (which can be easily seen also in World menu "System" -> "About". Also it makes more sense to report such findings to the developer list (who usually work on latest and greatest). Bye Torsten (without h)

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[ANN] Pharo Sprint 26 Feb
by Marcus Denker Feb. 18, 2016

Feb. 18, 2016

We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Friday, 26 Feb, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Lille). It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). Remotely, you can join us on Slack or the IRC channel #pharo on irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net/> server. During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters. As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come.

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[ANN] OSUnix and OSLinuxUbuntu on new UFFI
by Torsten Bergmann Feb. 18, 2016

Feb. 18, 2016

Sebastian wrote: >I don't want to spoil the great news, but actually the most recent >changes break Pharo 5.0 with SpurVM on Windows 8. >... > >I tried several older snapshots of the VM and the Pharo images listed in >the PharoLauncher but none work. Seriously you should rethink your way of COMMUNICATION: 1. This thread here is about a specific UNIX package and you tell us about a general Pharo problem you seem to have on a completely different platform: WINDOWS. => ???? 2. You "hijack" this thread instead of opening a separate one specific to the problem and asking if others might have the same issue. => ???? 3. You "give a general warning" to others already to "keep their images"? No details on what modification could possibly harm the image. => ???? 4. You talk about a broken Pharo 5 - but do not tell us what/where it is broken. Did the image not come up, is there a problem in a tool or when calling something/using UFFI. => ???? 5. You talk about "recent changes" without telling us when it started or at a minimum with which image version you face the problem. When it worked before then one can easily use Launcher to incrementally download and check several images to find out which change broke something. => ???? 6. You say you cant build a new image since a few days without giving any information what packages you load or how you build your custom images. => ???? 7. You said that you used several combination of VM and images but do not tell us which one you used/expected to work. => ???? Sorry - do you really think this is a good way to report a problem? How do you expect someone to invest his sparse spare time to help you? Maybe it is much easier to "just lament" instead of "being supportive". As an info: I also use Pharo 5 (even latest images up to Pharo 5 #50586) on Windows with Spur since 2 months. Found smaller issues that I reported, most of them are already adressed because I was able to give a clear picture of what the problem was. And yes - times are a little bit shaky because of Spur and UFFI - but this was already announced/warned before and situation has improved a lot with latest updates. Please do us all a favour and open a new thread or much better a bug report with exact details to reproduce if you have any finding. Before that check your setup: for SpurVM you should try: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/win/stable-20151214.zip (which is the Spur build from December) http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/win/PharoVM-Spur32-win-latest.zip (which is the latest CI built) with the highest image build number: http://files.pharo.org/image/50/ For non-spur images (Pharo 4.0 and Pharo 5.0 up 50496 update) you need the old non-spur VM: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/win/ If you use Launcher check that you use the latest green build from https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Launcher and that spur and non-spur Vm is correctly configured in the Pharo launcher settings. Thanks Torsten

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Getting error reason on command line
by Peter UhnÃ¡k Feb. 17, 2016

Feb. 17, 2016

Hi, is it possible to get error description on stdout similarly to warning? â Currently only the return value is changed but no output is produced. Thanks, Peter

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gtoolkit 3.10 overview
by Tudor Girba Feb. 17, 2016

Feb. 17, 2016

Hi, I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/ Please let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

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Font crash Pharo 50 Windows
by Justine STIENNE Feb. 17, 2016

Feb. 17, 2016

Ok we got several crashes related to fonts on charmaps "Answer an Array of Strings naming the different character maps available for setCharMap:" charmaps ifNil: [ charmaps := Array new: numCharmaps. self getCharMapsInto: charmaps ]. ^charmaps

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Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello reverse project dependency
by Peter UhnÃ¡k Feb. 16, 2016

Feb. 16, 2016

Unfortunately #includes: doesn't seem to matter and I still get errors. I tried to somehow summarize my findings with minimal code & results here http://peteruhnak.com/metacello/ On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com> wrote: > Hi Peter, > have you looked at metacellos #includes: method? > from https://code.google.com/archive/p/metacello/wikis/APIReference.wiki : > "When 'Example-AddOn' is loaded, load 'Example-UI'" > includes: #('Example-UI' ); > werner > > On 02/13/2016 11:26 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have the following situation: >> >> I have ProjectMain, and ProjectPlugin, now normally the Plugin depends >> on Main, however I would like to load Plugin as part of Main. >> >> The problem is that I can't specify to load Plugin after Main has been >> already fully loaded, if I do something like this >> >> BaselineOfMain>>baseline: spec >> <baseline> >> spec >> for: #common >> do: >> [ spec >> baseline: 'Plugin' >> with: [ spec >> repository: '...'; >> loads: #('default' OR 'plugin') ]. >> spec >> package: 'Main' with: [ spec requires: #(more stuff) ]; >> spec group: 'default' with: #('Main'). >> specgroup: 'complete' with: #('default' 'Plugin') ] >> >> The BaselineOfPlugin has two groupsâ¦ "default", which loads also "Main", >> and "plugin", which doesn't. >> >> Now the problem is that there is no guaranteed way that Plugin will load >> after Main (in fact the should happen). If I load the plugin's #default, >> then Metacello ends up in an endless loop for some reason, and if I load >> #plugin, then it will load it before the Main which will break it >> (because Plugin has dependencies on main). >> >> So my question is: >> is it possible to reverse it somehow? >> Maybe add at the end `specpostLoadDoIt: #postLoadPlugins`, and then in >> that method manually load the plugins with Metacello/Gofer? Or is there >> a better way? >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> > >

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Load SSO and WebSocket from Metacello Configuration?
by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand Feb. 16, 2016

Feb. 16, 2016

Hello, I want to load SSO and WebSocket packages from ZincHTTPComponents in my Metacello Configurations. Unfortunately there is no ConfigurationOfSSO or ConfigurationOfWebSocket I am aware of. I am loading currently in a #postLoad method this way: #('SSO' 'WebSocket') do: [ :each | #ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents asClass project bleedingEdge load: each ]. But a load exception is thrown because I have subclassed some classes from such packages. Can anyone help me by commenting or sending a code snippet of what could be the right solution for such situation? Thanks HernÃ¡n

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Bloc Space within a Space
by Sean P. DeNigris Feb. 16, 2016

Feb. 16, 2016

I always wanted to do this in Morphic, but it made too many assumptions about the World's environment e.g. use of globals like ActiveHand and World. I gave it a shot (see below). The new space did appear in the current world, but the rectangle seemed to open in the container world, not in the new world because when I closed the new space via the halo the rectangle remained. For me, it is very important to have a space easily create-able and drivable. This makes real testing possible, prevents another global mess, and makes other /really/ exciting possibilities within reach. Can it be done in Bloc? If not, what would it take? s := BlBlocSpace new. root := s rootElement. root extent: 500 @ 500. root openInWorld; yourself. rect := BlElement exampleRectangle. rect openInWorld: root world. s redraw. root updateDrawing. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Bloc-Space-within-a-Space-tp4877474.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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